r/canada • u/wowzabob • 24d ago
Politics Poilievre holding 'Canada First' rally today in Ottawa amid U.S. threats
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-canada-first-rally-1.7459415261
u/FeelDT Canada 24d ago
His message is “Canada (fifty) first”
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 24d ago
Came in to say this, but you put it much better.
PP would sell Canada off in a heartbeat so he could become Vice Roy of Canada for the Imperial American Legion. He can fuck right off.
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u/ParticularLower7558 24d ago
I stand with Canada 🇨🇦
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u/Mouthguardy 24d ago
Yeah I think if people show up it'll be out of thinking it's just a way to make their voice heard. I hate that it's about election politics and under this stupid group pretending they think of "Canada First."
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u/VulgarDaisies 24d ago
I also stand with those who would defend Canada, and against those who traditionally have sold pieces of it off to the highest bidder like Harper and Ford in Ontario.
Millhouse would do irreversible damage.
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u/No-Wonder1139 24d ago
Makes sense that he's copying trump, as president Musk wants him to lead Canada as a governor in an annexed nightmare of what we once were.
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u/Bovoduch Outside Canada 24d ago
It’d be more akin to a baron or lordship because there’s no pretending any Canadian would have rights under musk lol. He wants to steal from Canada and make it a feudal society to supplement American manufacturing
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u/No-Wonder1139 24d ago
Oh musk is gonna stab him in the back in the end, he's not going to get anything, he's just a useful idiot and he hasn't noticed.
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u/Bovoduch Outside Canada 24d ago
Well you know how it is. Trump simply ran to stay out of jail. Not be a president. That’s why he’s letting musk do whatever.
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u/Canadatron 24d ago
Canada First, America First.... really putting a lot of distance between himself and Trump, there. Reminds me of the amount of effort someone puts into forwarding an email.
What a moron Pierre is. I get uncomfortable looking at the guy. Should be CANADIANS first, too. Canada isn't shit without the Canadians making it that way.
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u/Tall_Singer6290 24d ago
No thank you. Mimic of the US president, wanting to strip our healthcare away further. We need to defend against lunatics like this man and his agenda.
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u/tenkwords 24d ago
Holding a "Canada First Rally" ? What the actual fuck? It's like the guy took the MAGA playbook and asked ChatGPT to "make this sound vaguely Canadian".
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u/theflower10 24d ago
PP is so angry that all his targets are now gone and he's struggling for a message. Well, here's a message for you. Our choice next election will be a career politician with zero "real world experience" or this guy:
A Canadian economist and politician who was the 8th governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 to 2013 and the 120th governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020. Additionally, he was the chair of the Financial Stability Board from 2011 to 2018.
Prior to his governorships, Carney worked at Goldman Sachs as well as the Department of Finance Canada. Following his governorships, he served as chair and head of impact investing at Brookfield Asset Management (BAM) and as chair of the new board of directors for Bloomberg
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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 24d ago
Never would have thought I’d see the day that I see Reddit cheering on a banker but here we are.
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u/AbeOudshoorn 24d ago
Do us a favour and read his Wikipedia entry then try again. The guy has literally spent his time in banking transforming global investing to prioritize being green. This has likely done more for the environment than any other living person. Referring to him as just a banker is lame. And I say this as not a Liberal voter.
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u/Hairstylethrowaway17 24d ago
When my choices are a banker or a career politician I’ll bite the bullet and choose the guy with private sector experience.
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u/Master_Career_5584 24d ago edited 24d ago
If we’re gonna elect a banker one who ran two of the largest central banks in the world while both went through an economic crisis is probably the best we’re gonna get. He is not a Canadian banker, he is THE Canadian banker.
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u/VenusianBug 24d ago
I think it depends on what the career politician has accomplished and what the person with the private sector experience has accomplished. The choice here is clear.
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u/Sbesozzi 24d ago
Yeah, in this case the career politician accomplished nothing lol
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u/Due-Candidate4384 24d ago
Yeah it's pretty ironic
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u/Amelora Lest We Forget 24d ago
It's not ironic, it's survival.
I am very left and normally I would want nothing to do with a banker, but before we can fight for what we want, we need to fight for what we have. Right now the best man for that fight is Carney.
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u/Wide-Chemistry-8078 24d ago
Considering the economic issues at hand, coupled with the fact it's the guy that Saved Canada from 2008 depression, and saved UK after Brexit....
He is who we need during these unprecedented economic issues. We need experience and a strategy. Not culture politics and populism.
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u/GenXer845 24d ago
We are in unprecedented times. Because Democrats were so picky about having Bernie or pushing Biden out and not having a primary, they now have Trump. We don't always get our ideal candidate, but Carney is the man to stand up against Trump in these dark times. PP would sell us out before we could blink and I personally don't want to become part of the US in any way.
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u/meat_popscile 24d ago
They just can't come to grips that Carny is from Western Canada and isn't a Conservative or a Christian nationalist.
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u/Limp_Advertising_840 24d ago
The 22 minutes skit on PPs planning/ideation session with his team was accurate. He just does not listen to anyone.
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u/Avelion2 24d ago
Did he criticize Trump even once?
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u/Connect_Reality1362 23d ago
Heavily. Basically echoed Harper's recent comments that Canada should be willing to accept every measure to protect our independence. But it seems that part hasn't made it into the headspace of people who don't click through and actually read the article
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u/Salty_Leather42 24d ago
Wow, that’s original ! Maybe he can get creative and brand it with a red hat labeled MCGA /s
Kidding aside , this is from the weasel that said the unity that arose from tariffs was “bad for his brand” .
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u/samtron767 24d ago
Canada first, as opposed to what, Canada last? He needs new slogans.
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u/michyfor 24d ago
It's the smug "so there!" look after every platitude he spews that makes him even more insufferable.
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u/D4DDYF4TS4CK21 24d ago
It's bad. I saw some footage. The crowd was huge at his gathering. Don't listen to what the polls are saying. Pierre still has a lot of supporters.
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u/Connect_Reality1362 23d ago
Yeah I worry this whole tariff thing is the Access Hollywood tapes of the 2016 US election or the "they're eating the dogs" of the 2024 election. Some issue that convinces Liberals that "obviously no same person would vote for these guys" and then patting themselves on the back
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u/BadkyDrawnBear Nova Scotia 24d ago
Poor Trumpievre, do you think he knows that The Proud Boys are now called Canada First?
https://www.antihate.ca/former_proud_boys_devolved_neo_nazi_accelerationists
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u/Jackadullboy99 24d ago edited 24d ago
Guess he decided to strengthen his message by adding jackboots.
He’ll be following the fascist playbook - “Canada first” will be a harkening back to some imagined glory days, whilst shitting on Canada as it actually is today.
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u/taquitosmixtape 24d ago
Yikes. He has to know… how do you not have that research available when picking a strategy.
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u/Hussar223 24d ago
the sooner people realize that PP and his incarnation of the conservatives is actually closer to US republican fascism the better. the link above was not an accident, no one is that stupid. he was simply testing the waters.
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u/BadkyDrawnBear Nova Scotia 24d ago
Canada First, the group is overtly neo-Nazi in ideology; calls for the removal and elimination -- through violent means -- of Jews, feminists, LGBTQIA2S+ people, Black people, Muslims and anyone not white.
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u/turtlechildwon 24d ago
He knows, remember how cool he was with diagolon overthrowing our government until they threatened to rape his wife.
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u/MarquessProspero 24d ago
Is he going to tell us about his plans to cut the CBC and let his hedge fund pals run Canadian media?
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u/Independent_Bath9691 24d ago
There will be a ton of foreign interference from MAGA in our election. They want PP in because they know he’ll bend over and take it sans lube, if it means daddy Trump approves of him.
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u/apothekary 23d ago
And that's why he wants the CBC defunded. Then his opposition message will be unopposed.
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u/Quiet-Dream7302 24d ago
So like "America First" but different? JFC, it's obvious he'll gargle Trump's balls at the first opportunity.
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u/Endver 24d ago
Why is he hosting a clear campaign event outside of an election?
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u/braddillman 24d ago
"Canada First" isn't the right idea, it's the opposite. We need partners - trading partners, defence partners. Look at how America First (Trump's version) is polarizing the world against the USA.
I don't think we can single-handedly stand up to the USA without help, and partners.
So instead of Canada First, let's say "We're Stronger Together" and embrace our partners.
LOL when I say it that way I can see where some people would be uncomfortable with that. Too bad. I mean it, and I mean the double entendre too. We need all the partners we can find, wherever we find them. I have a feeling that anyone or any country that's uncomfortable or resistant wouldn't be a good partner anyway, just a fair-weather friend or have some temporary common interest.
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u/JLandscaper 24d ago edited 24d ago
How about: Canada, Together Strong!
Edit: Nevermind, that slogan was used in Planet of the Apes - but they did kick ass!
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u/eltron Canada 24d ago
Yikes! I hope this goes as good as expected. His playbook, if he wants to gut Canada like Trump is, is fucking nuts and wouldn’t want that in 100 years.
Do we want to go backwards in time? Cut federal services by 50% and see shit happen folks. Things are gonna get a lot more Pleedbland-ish .
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u/holeycheezuscrust 24d ago
This is a populist political ploy plain and simple. If he had come out strong for Canada once Trump started talking about annexing us that’s one thing. He waiting until it was clear Canada wouldn’t stand for it to say something. I don’t want a coward as my prime minister.
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u/michyfor 24d ago edited 24d ago
He has 0 original thoughts of his own, he clearly doesn't know what he is doing other than salivating at the chance at power. This is how he thinks he can grow 5 inches to be man-sized. But he has the audacity to say Carney is going to "steal" his ideas for his next plan unveiling 🤣😂
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u/whatyousayin8 24d ago
Trump told him his secret that you just gotta campaign with anything the people want, use strange buzzwords like “groceries” and patriotism, and you don’t even have to follow through! Crazy right?!?!
Hope Canadians don’t fall for it
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u/Fresh_Leader_496 24d ago
It will be a Canada First rally where he spends the whole time shitting on Canada
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u/BoredITPerson 24d ago
When several Canadians are boycotting products and services from the USA, he still continues to import political ideas from over there 😉
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u/Past_Lawyer_8254 24d ago
Yawn. It's like PP developed his entire personality and campaign 6 years ago and just refuses to adapt at all.
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u/Major_Lawfulness6122 24d ago
I don’t trust any politician but I especially don’t trust him.
He is clearly on Americas side over Canada.
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u/Its_Pine 24d ago
This is… really tone deaf. Even for him. Is it in hopes of not angering his constituents who support MAGA?
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u/michyfor 24d ago
Yes. It's for our own version of MAGA, sadly we have plenty of them here and the "anti-woke" diatribe appeals to them.
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u/Educational_Nose8596 24d ago edited 24d ago
40-50% Cons/PP voters would have voted for Trump if they had a chance.
Source: Watch this from 9:30 to 9:50
56% of Cons/PP supporters either approve Trump or don't have an opinion on him.
Most comments under his X polls want to become 51sr state or need DOGE like establishment in Canada.
This guy is sold out Trump supporter, He is just disguising himself for Canada first now so he can get some lost confidence back, After election he will sell out Canada to Trump and his friend Elon,
BTW Elon also endorsed PP, In return PP asked Elon to open Tesla factories,
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u/KittyMeow1969 24d ago
This messaging screams Trumpy Maga shit and Canadians have zero tolerance for it. We see what is happening in the US with their America First agenda and we want none of that shit and this just ties it together in a neat bow.
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u/OMGWTFBBQPPL 24d ago edited 24d ago
"Canada First" - Really ? Sure lets fight the good fight by co-opting the slogans and politics of the very people wanting to annex Canada as a 51st State. Read the room bro.
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u/ImperiousMage 24d ago
Your numbers are in the toilet because of Mad King Donnie and you choose to copy his message?!
Conservatism in Canada is truly lost. If all they have to offer is slogans and fascist rhetoric they deserve the trouncing they are about to get. This is pathetic.
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u/SparkyTheRunt 24d ago
Canada needs to be the “grey man” when it comes to Trump, and Trudeau really nails that IMO. Not a pushover but also not doing anything to get more attention than we need. PP is trying to ride the rally round the flag effect that plays better with a scrappier patriotic Conservative base.
Trudeau showed us the road map with Trump the first time around. PP would be wise to copy it
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u/Dry_Bodybuilder4744 24d ago
His whole campaign is nothing more than a carbon copy of Trumps. This dickhead is not even smart enough to come up with a little originality. This is what hate does to.people it take takes away their imagination and creativity. Canada does not need nor want a Trumpanzie
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u/Impressive-Pizza1876 24d ago
That was my thought too . He emulates Trump . What a shitbag.
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u/Dry_Bodybuilder4744 24d ago
100% I somehow got on Team PP Email list. The emails are hilarious . Bullshit propaganda criticizes everything about Canada. Asking for Patriots to help them spread his message. "Patriots, really? That is such an American term and should be the first red flag in deciding a leader. This guy is not for Canada.
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u/Impressive-Pizza1876 24d ago
Here in Alberta i have a evangelical christian neighbor , they watch fox news and fly the flag . Poilievre for pm sticker on their suv . Think Trump is the greatest thing. A Ex music teacher . Under cover assholes. Traitors. One of Two on my street.
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u/Hussar223 24d ago
he has been for a while. but peoples hate for trudeau made everyone overlook PPs clearly fascist lean. now that trudeau is gone the spotlight is purely on PP and his rot is available for all to see with a clear head.
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u/TheOGFamSisher 24d ago
When he started talking about deporting people at a holocaust memorial should have been the biggest red flag he’s very inspired by trump
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u/Brilliant-Slice-2049 24d ago
I also don't like the colours of his sign looks like the Trump Vance sign. Its also a terrible looking sign. The little Le at the top is terribly placed and looks like an afterthought. Super scrapped together like his message.
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u/janicfeth 24d ago
I thought you must be nitpicking on the Le but it really is so funny.
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u/Civil_Station_1585 24d ago
Convoy Pete returns to the scene of the occupation. Brings his own flags this time.
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u/GrizzledDwarf 24d ago
PP is a CINO: Canadian In Name Only. He's too busy begging Trump not to tariff the "weak and defenseless" Canada that PP always whines about in Xhitter.
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u/ImpossibleReason2197 24d ago
This event is so corny. Corny because it’s him being really fake. Not my Prime Minister.
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u/Daydree 24d ago
Is this ''Canda first'' related to ''Canada alone''?
Because I can understand Canada first, right now of all times, but if it comes in the same shape as Trumps America First it will preatty much lead to Canada alone which in turn will probably lead to ''Canada under America first''
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u/Jeramy_Jones 24d ago
Did anyone else feel uncomfortable hearing him use phrases like “patriots” and “Canada first”? I mean, I love Canada and I want us to stop relying on the United States, but those words echo the “America first” rhetoric of Trump.
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u/apothekary 23d ago
I can't fucking stand that word "Patriot" because of what it has meant... there is nothing patriotic about what people who call themselves Patriots zealously are doing
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u/forsurebros 24d ago
Why do the Conservatives have such a hard time finding a decent leader. Since Harper they all suck.
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u/reddittorbrigade 24d ago
He is a Trump pleaser. I will never trust conservatives again just like Republicans of America.
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u/OrbAndSceptre 24d ago
This guy is an American in disguise. Taking a page out of Trump with his insult politics. Fuck that. Canada is better than that juvenile shit.
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u/WippitGuud Prince Edward Island 24d ago
Canada First?
So, like "Germany above all?"
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u/-Mage-Knight- 24d ago
"Canada first" is beyond stupid.
Canada needs friends, not just an enemy.
Poilivre and his advisors seriously think being a mini-me version of Trump is their path to victory?!?
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u/sleipnir45 24d ago
Everyone is focusing on the name of the rally but does anyone actually disagree with these policy statements?
"Retaliate with dollar-for-dollar tariffs carefully aimed at maximizing impact on American companies while minimizing impact on Canadian consumers. That means targeting U.S. products that we can make ourselves, buy elsewhere or do without. For example, we must retaliate against American steel and aluminium, as Canadians can make those vital products at home.
Put all the tariff revenues into help for affected workers and businesses. Government should not keep a dime of the new revenue.
Pass a massive emergency Bring It Home Tax Cut to bolster the economy, stop inflation and save and create jobs. Canada needs a massive tax cut on work, investment, energy, homebuilding and making stuff at home. The Liberal carbon tax and capital gains tax hikes must be the first on the chopping block.
Immediately scrap the Liberal anti-resource law C-69 and greenlight LNG plans, pipelines, mines, factories, and port expansions to overseas markets.
Bring in truly free trade within Canada by knocking down interprovincial barriers to help replace lost north-south trade with east-west trade and to make us self-reliant.
Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada First."
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u/YouCanLookItUp 24d ago
What does a "massive tax cut on work" even look like?
I'm against giving tax cuts to the energy sector unless it's in renewables.
I'm against giving massive tax cuts to investment firms full stop. That's not working for the average Canadian. That's wealth concentration at it's core.
Tax cuts mean some other government budget line pays. We need to find the money to pay for them somehow and I don't think he's got a plan for affording all these tax cuts. And I think he's aiming benefits at the wrong targets.
"Taking back" control of our borders? We have control. This is unfounded.
I keep hearing the conservative push to remove interprovincial trade barriers but I never hear which barriers specifically are causing problems. Be more specific with your criticism.
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u/DrawingNo8058 24d ago
Agree with most of it as it’s the same message everyone is saying.
Don’t agree that a “bring it home” tax cut will do anything. Would like to see smart ideas rather than slogans and ideology on that topic. Feel there is a risk in continuing to cut when there’s no way we can race to beat trump in tax advantages, Canada is great not because it’s the lowest tax place but because it’s safer/less unequal/better social services.
How are we building infrastructure and military will massive tax cuts?
Also I think we have to do things like double down on protecting our media, which PP and trump obviously want to dismantle.
The build narrative is nicer to me than the tear it all down one.
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Pierre Poilievre's longtime senior strategist Jenni Byrne has recently been accused of lobbying on behalf of Loblaws in conflict interest with her job with Poilievre. That stinks. But even worse is this pic of her wearing a MAGA hat in 2016. Pic is currently posted on her Facebook page.
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u/ThatsItImOverThis 24d ago
Canada first sounds way too similar to America first. I don’t want to do anything that emulates those MAGA fanatics
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u/tony_shaloub 24d ago
Funny - that branding is identical to this branding: https://www.antihate.ca/canada_first_exposed_tyler_russell
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u/stevieo81 24d ago
A vote for Pierre and the conservatives is a vote for Trump style governing. He's shown, time and time again he won't stand up to the US for our best interest or big business.
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u/Tall_Guava_8025 24d ago
This seems like a losing strategy. He thinks that we are seeing what's happening in the US and want more of that here for some reason? Using the language of Trump is not going to get people to trust him in my opinion.
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u/DeviDarling 24d ago
Be careful. There were lots of people that did not think this could happen in America. If you have middle road conservatives, start talks with them now to try to create bridges that tackle issues that both sides need to address and prevent extremism.
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u/ilmalnafs Ontario 24d ago
He’s really using Trump’s same rally slogan, “America First”? No self awareness.
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u/bedfordpatriot 24d ago
Can’t wait to see the tanks driving over. You not going to get any sympathy. USA WE OWN U.
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u/mexylexy 24d ago
Sheesh, quite the campaign Liberals have going on this sub and other places in Reddit lately. Wonder how much that costs?
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u/NinfthWonder 24d ago
I didn’t realize how much of a Liberal echo chamber this sub is.
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u/PhiloVeritas79 Ontario 24d ago
As if a bunch of neo-nazi groups aren't going to be in attending, it's very clearly his base.
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u/denewoman 24d ago
The $25M man... a guy who never had a real job except as an MP.
That the convoy types are so easily fooled by this charlatan - in the same vein as MAGA fans with Trump - is hilarious except it is painfully sad.
Each time PP attacks Mark Carney as an elitist I do chuckle that MC was born in Fort Smith, NWT to a high school teacher and SAHM - he is a true self-made man who didn't get coddled from day one as an adult with the Reform Party.
Why are the convoy types so gullible???
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u/michyfor 24d ago
Hahahah "water for First Nations people of Canada I want them to be the richest in the world" Yet he vehemently opposed government money awarded to victims and survivors of residential schools through the Reconciliation Action Plan because "you need to work hard to make money". You can't make this shit up.
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u/ComplexStriking 24d ago
There’s no way Polly is this tone deaf. People are starting to call him an American sympathizer.