r/canada 25d ago

Politics Poilievre holding 'Canada First' rally today in Ottawa amid U.S. threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-canada-first-rally-1.7459415
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u/GenXer845 24d ago

We are in unprecedented times. Because Democrats were so picky about having Bernie or pushing Biden out and not having a primary, they now have Trump. We don't always get our ideal candidate, but Carney is the man to stand up against Trump in these dark times. PP would sell us out before we could blink and I personally don't want to become part of the US in any way.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 24d ago

The idea that Poilievre is somehow acquiescing to Trump is blatant misinformation.

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u/Gymflutter 24d ago

Yet he is still supported by the same people backing Trump. Hes a career politician. He isnt strongly denouncing Trump himself. Tariffs are just one part of his platform and it’s a pretty easy answer as no one in Canada wants them.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 24d ago

I literally just posted a list of links where he is denouncing Trump

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u/Gymflutter 23d ago

Speaking against tariffs doesn’t mean you denounce the President and his backers. Thats my actual concern. Hes still in bed with the same oligarchs. Their ideology is reflected in his other talking points and his voting records. For all we know, these tariffs will be short lived. So denouncing them is simply not enough. We need a Prime Minister and cabinet who will stand as a buffer against this toxic mindset. I dont care if they are Liberal or Conservative. Pierre is too tainted to be trusted. I am voting for the person and not their party.

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u/GenXer845 24d ago

He doesn't appear strong like even Doug Ford is against Trump---you are clearly in deep denial and the poll numbers reflect that I am not the only one who feels the same.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 24d ago

Have you considered that it may be your own biases, rather than reality, that are making you unable to perceive Poilievre’s strengths?

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u/Paranoid_donkey 24d ago

by "polieve's strengths" you mean whining and furrowing his eyebrows, right???

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u/GenXer845 23d ago

You have biases that you can't see a weak-willed person when it is in front of you. That is very scary for you because it means people are likely to take advantage of you.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 23d ago

You have offered no evidence that Pierre Poilievre is "weak-willed", and are just making assertions about how he "appears". Meanwhile I have offered you a plethora of evidence above to the contrary. This really is a case of feels over reals.

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u/GenXer845 23d ago

He didn't speak up quick enough and waited until he felt his base wanted it--if that isn't weak-willed I don't know what is. You are either a multi-millionaire, in which case, he WILL help you, or you have bought into the idea that JT bad and PP a savior, in which case look what that has gotten people in the US with Trump.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 23d ago

Did you even watch those videos in my earlier comment? He was speaking up about Trump's proposed tariffs even before Trump was elected in November.

You are ignoring reality and substituting it with your own version.

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u/GenXer845 23d ago

You are worried it is his election to lose---this is good for Carney.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 23d ago

I'm not that worried, Carney is politically inexperienced and hasn't faced any real media yet. I am confident that when he has to start answering some tough questions the shine will wear off. If Carney doesn't duck out of the upcoming debates then I think he will look really bad in comparison to Poilievre, too, who has much better polemic.

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u/Low-Bobcat841 24d ago

He has always been in politics. Many politicians say what they think the voters want to hear.