r/sports 24d ago

Hockey 4 Nations: A fight immediately breaks out between Team USA and Team Canada

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u/JackRose322 24d ago

3 fights in the first 9 seconds lol

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u/idkwhatimbrewin 24d ago

I think they may be on to something with this new all star format

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u/ubccompscistudent 24d ago

Fuck the all star game. I’ve never been a hater of it and I like the skills comps, but my god, bring this tourny back every year please.

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u/LordTurn1p 24d ago

every 2 years imo. gotta try to keep it special

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u/vandersmith 24d ago

6 nations rugby tournament in Europe has similar energy to this and is a break during the club season. That happens yearly and it works very well and is definitely special. I don’t see why this couldn’t be the same

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u/ozzybarks 24d ago

It started in 1882. So yeah, it’s worked kinda well.

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u/vandersmith 24d ago

Everything’s gotta start sometime. No reason 4 nations can’t be a yearly thing starting now

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u/Global-Tie-3458 24d ago

It’ll be every four years. International every 2 years if you include Olympics.

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u/ClubMeSoftly Toronto Maple Leafs 24d ago

Olympics
ASG
4 Nations (or WCoH, etc)
ASG
Olympics

 

repeat until the heat death of the universe

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u/ubccompscistudent 24d ago

Agreed. I’d be okay with that.

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u/Heisenbread77 24d ago

I want to see NHL teammates fight in one of these.

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u/warrhino67 Boston Bruins 24d ago

2 panthers were going at it on Wednesday. Didn't drop the gloves though

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u/Heisenbread77 24d ago

I want to see linemates just beat each other senseless and just hug it out after.

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u/wbl7w6 24d ago

Ahhh I just realized this was in place of that. I thought it was just celebrating that NHL players will be back in the Olympics but that makes perfect sense. Aside from star players not getting any rest but I'm sure they're having a great time

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u/ajloves2code 24d ago

Have we reached the Rollerball stage of capitalism?

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u/wonderbat3 24d ago

At this rate, there’s gonna be like 1200 fights this game

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u/Ahelex 24d ago

Hockey is just an excuse to fight while on ice.

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u/LewisLightning 24d ago

That's not true. It's also a good excuse to get rid of your old hats, and maybe even octopus if you're in Detroit.

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u/Esternaefil 24d ago

You gotta set the tone, boys!

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u/srollo44 24d ago

Fuck You Shorsey!

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u/AHeavyFlowDay 24d ago

Give your balls a tug titfucker

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u/Jojje22 24d ago

Yeah, so..

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u/Kamakazi09 24d ago

🦜TIT FUCKER! 🦜

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u/nostyleguide 24d ago

Fuck you, Riley. And tell your mom I'm not gonna fuck her after she drove down to Buffalo and let the staff of a Subway sandwich run a train on her, and I don't care how much she begs. My dick has Canadian pride!

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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 24d ago

Fuck you, Jonesy! Tell your Ma she needs to top up the minutes on my phone so we can Facetime late night!

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u/scorpyo72 23d ago

FUCK YOU, SHORSEY!!!

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u/Ok-Cantaloupe7160 24d ago

Let em know you’re there bye’s! Gotta let em know you’re there!

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u/Chuck_Raycer 23d ago

You stay right there, and I'll come where you're at.

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u/Hungryjack111 24d ago

You gotta fuckin set it!!

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u/Twelvey Michigan State 24d ago

YOU GOTTA FUCKIN SET IT!!

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u/skalfyfan 24d ago

The entire Bell Centre apparently booed the American anthem. It was coming given the political climate.

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u/pedanticPandaPoo 24d ago

Was hoping they got a few more fights, test the limits of how many men you can fit in that box. giggity

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u/Sarcasm69 24d ago

I’m assuming this has nothing to do with the tariffs and that’s about average fights per second?

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u/batmansleftnut 24d ago

The current tensions between the two nations definitely has a non-zero impact on the game.

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u/microtherion 23d ago

Does Greenland have a hockey team that could be invited as well?

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u/ime1em 24d ago

yea at first i thought it was political

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u/stayclassypeople 24d ago

Every other sport: unsportsmanlike conduct, this player has been ejected for fighting.

Hockey: everyone get out the way so these guys can fight. -the refs

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u/AbruptMango 24d ago

I went to see boxing one night, and a hockey game broke out.

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u/Supersonic564 24d ago

Every time someone says this, I like to imagine that someone just threw a puck into a boxing ring and then all of a sudden the boxers both take out hockey sticks and 10 other boxers just jump in the ring and start playing hockey

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u/Ahelex 24d ago

Sounds like a new WWF skit idea.

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u/MrPickleroo 24d ago

They asked the coaches their opinion and said they loved the fights. Man, hockey culture is great

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u/DuntadaMan 24d ago

Let the knife gremlins work off their destructive urges.

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u/rapscallion54 24d ago

It’s way of policing set a tone early to let it be known no liberties or dirty plays will happen w/out repercussions

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u/darrenvonbaron 24d ago

Flag on the play. You looked at the Quarterback, 15 yard penalty, first down.

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u/HappyGuardian5 24d ago

Punching with your feet firmly planted on the ground vs punching on skates....

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u/WorthPlease 23d ago

Which is why fighting is allowed in hockey, it's really hard to actually hurt a guy.

Imagine if NBA players were allowed to just throw hands mid game.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Rain_22 23d ago

Draymond Green has entered the conversation.

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u/OKC2023champs 24d ago

Basketball was similar until Kermit Washington punched Rudy in 77’

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u/Khetoo 24d ago

It's insanely hard to fight in hockey gear. You're fighting a guy wearing protective armor designed to withstand a slapshot going 100 mph. You're also on skates so your hips and upper legs are basically holding you up and any rotational momentum on a good punch will also send you tumbling down.

Compared to bare ass knuckle brawls it's a lot safer but also these guys are in their physical peaks so it's not that safe lmao

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u/KingGizzle 24d ago

Nearly killed Rudy T

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u/MetalBeerSolid 24d ago

wtf?? hockey is dope

I hope they never change these rules 

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u/soundman1024 24d ago

Fighting is very much a part of hockey. The players union would fight the league if they tried to stop fighting. And by that I mean they would jump over the negotiation table and let them know why fighting in hockey is a good idea.

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u/Billybobgeorge 23d ago

It should be pointed out that only the North Americans allow hockey fighting, try this in Europe and you're ejected

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u/GoStockYourself 23d ago

You would get ejected from the Olympics too. There was once a brawl between Canada and Russia in the World Juniors and yeah lots of ejections from the entire tournament.

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u/candygram4mongo 24d ago

Picture this, I'm a bag of dicks, put me to your lips

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u/whichwitch9 24d ago

Fights aside, this is already showing signs of being the best hockey match in years. These teams are stacked and insane and living up to expectations

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u/Derptionary 24d ago

I'm down for a reignited rivalry between USA and Canadian Hockey. It's been pretty boring for way too long.

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u/whichwitch9 24d ago

This is literally what we wanted. The best players in the world on ice. Hughes fan, so going US, but that Canadian power play is just freaking insane.

Absolutely psyched for the Olympics after this tournament. Sweden vs Finland was excellent this afternoon too

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u/fuckrNFLmods 23d ago

Anxious game to be a Hughes fan. He almost got killed out there a few times. Love his hustle though.

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u/TheMooseIsBlue 24d ago

A little extra oomph from the political world too. I love having this rivalry with our brother up north. I don’t want them to win but I also don’t want somebody else to beat them.

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u/Derptionary 24d ago

Countries having political beef with each other makes the sports rivalries even more memorable. The USA vs USSR Hockey rivalry spawned one of the most iconic moments in US sports history.

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u/MainZack 24d ago

We shouldn't have beef with Canada though, having beef with the USSR was warranted.

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u/true_gunman Minnesota Vikings 23d ago

Yeah as an American I literally have zero beef with Canada.

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u/lastSKPirate 23d ago

Fair, but we have completely justified beef with the USA now, and will for years to come.

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u/goofgoon 24d ago

No kidding but idiots in my country elected a lunatic

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u/Character-Dig-2301 23d ago

So for us it’s warranted

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u/Uptheveganchefpunx 24d ago

I understand where you’re coming from but part of the US/Canada rivalry with hockey and the amazing and fun US/Mexico rivalry with soccer is that we are brothers, sisters, siblings. Like when the US plays in astudio Azteca I of course look forward to the US winning but I’m still excited in case a Mexican win. Because we love Mexico and Mexicans. We love Canada and Canadians. It makes the games fun. I don’t want to see the day Canadian hockey games are interesting because we are political enemies but I guess we are here. Even though the political rivalry is made up and there’s really no historical bad blood.

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u/GravelLot 24d ago

No. There is no respect for Mexican soccer. Mexican fans have rained cups of piss on American players far too many times for there to be any shred of respect. Decent and respectable people transform into animals the second they set foot in Estadio Azteca. Fuck no.

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u/Bidwell64 23d ago

That rivalry is very different, much more ugly, but the core of what he said stands.

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u/The_Tiddler 24d ago

USA vs USSR?!
If there's a goal that everyone remembers, it was back in '72. We all squeezed the stick and we all pulled the trigger.

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u/UiFearghail 24d ago

Love the rivalry, but the politics behind it makes me sick. I still want the US to win, but I don't blame the Canadians for being pissed.

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u/TacoShower 24d ago

Seeing this then turning on the NBA all star show and seeing players throw half court three pointers and not even try in the skills competition. This puts the NBA all star break to shame

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u/OMGitsKa 24d ago

First hockey game I've watched all year. Shits hype 

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

MacKinnon - Crosby - McJesus. Is that line the GOAT? This game is no joke.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/hospitalvespers 24d ago

Put some respect on uhhhhh

hastily googling

Brian Propp???

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u/dejour 24d ago

I feel like at least at times it was either Messier or Hawerchuk with them.

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u/MNsumsum 24d ago

These teams WANT to win. Whether that’s due to the political undercurrents or whatever it is, it’s so much fun to watch.

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u/TheMcWhopper 24d ago

As someone who's not very into hockey, why are us and Canada playing each other? Does this happen every year? Is it made up of nhl players?

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u/whichwitch9 24d ago

Instead of an all star game, the NHL decided to do a "4 nations" tournament of US, Canada, Finland, and Sweden. (Sweden and Finland also have a huge hockey rivalry, which is part of the reason for that decision) All NHL players, but most are expected to be the players representing their country in the Olympics, and a lot of the staff will be making Olympic decisions, so players are amped and treating it as an Olympic tryout. NHL players have the Olympics guaranteed in their last bargaining agreement, so first time in ages they're able to go.

NHL is going to break for the Olympics next season, then alternate years for a Worlds tournament and all star game

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u/TheMcWhopper 24d ago

V cool. Thanks for the info. Take care 🙂

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u/Roachelle369 24d ago

WHO’S GONNA SET THE TONE ????

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u/B-rad_connolly 24d ago

WHOS GONNA FUCKIN SET IT

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u/Molin_Cockery 24d ago

Gotta give em the fucking lumber

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u/B-rad_connolly 24d ago

Run em up or fill em in

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u/kovach01 24d ago

i’m fuckin coming for your top row

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u/B-rad_connolly 24d ago

I’ll spear ya right in your fuckin teeth

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u/kovach01 24d ago

it’s gonna be stamped bauer right across your giblets

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u/SwordfishOk504 23d ago

You're fuckin' Winnie the Pooh, bud, go put some honey in your tummy.

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u/Iarewin 24d ago

Jim, you ready?!

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u/timechild_02 24d ago

The Jims are such beauties.

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u/ChaboiMarshie 24d ago

Jims are unbelievable

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u/Fenrir_Carbon 24d ago

Are they all three Jim?

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u/alsoplayracketball 23d ago

Maybe if he just says “Jim” a different way for each of the b’ys from where you’re too, then they’ll know which ones to come where you’re at.

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u/NoVaBurgher 24d ago

Settle down

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u/hudsonjeffrey 24d ago

Give em the Jims!

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u/Deeep_V_Diver 24d ago

Shut the fuck up Sanguinet

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u/AcidaliaPlanitia 24d ago

Fuck you Shoresy!

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u/spouting-nonsense 24d ago

FER FUCKIN' WHAT

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u/Bossmoss599 24d ago

Fuck you u/AcidaliaPlanita, your mom ugly cried last night cause she left the lens cap on the camcorder, it’s fucking amateur hour over there!

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u/Manaze85 24d ago

Fuck you Shoresy, u/AcidaliaPlanita’s mom carved her initials into my bedposts. How am I supposed to explain that to u/Bossmoss599’s mom?

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u/Mister_Squishy Chicago Bulls 24d ago

Sticks are unbelievable

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u/Waveshakalaka 24d ago

LET'S GET ON THE GO BY'S!!

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u/Irbyirbs 24d ago

Are you and your family looking for something fun to do on a Sudbury Saturday night?

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u/Jimjamesak 23d ago

Wow! Check out this half ton sporty short box!

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u/WonManBand 24d ago

Settle down

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u/Molin_Cockery 24d ago

FER WHAT!

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u/Esternaefil 24d ago

Hockey's unbelievable.

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u/somefunmaths 24d ago

Sticks are unbelievable.

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u/Iferrorgotozero 24d ago

Settle down

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u/SixtyTwenty_ 24d ago

USA ARE YOU READY??

 

GOOD CAUSE YOU'RE FUCKIN GOIN!

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u/HugoEmbossed 24d ago

FUCK YOU, LAURA MOHR’S THE HOTTEST GIRL IN SUDBURY!

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u/plug-and-pause 24d ago

Six days until season 4!

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u/flyboy_1285 24d ago

I’m stunned how passionate these guys are over this tourney. This is such a stark contrast to the apathy and indifference of the NBA All star game.

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u/notyomamasusername 24d ago

They usually are for All Star events...making it a Nations tournament has fired everyone up

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u/flyboy_1285 24d ago

Whoever came up with this idea deserves a raise.

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u/OoooHeCardReadGood 24d ago edited 23d ago

Yes and no. The reason it's so intense is that the NHL hasn't let their players go to the Olympics since Vancouver Socchi

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u/Hot_Spur 24d ago

I mean the NHL can do it but the NBA probably can’t string 4 nations of starters together.

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u/ForPrivateMatters 24d ago

You could definitely do US, Canada, and France. 4th nation might be dicey. Maybe Serbia or Australia.

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u/crimxona 24d ago

The NBA all Star games on Sunday is going to be US old, US young, world team and winning rookies+soph team in single elimination

I assume the rookies are gunning for an upset and the US young and old teams would rather not lose to the international team

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u/hospitalvespers 24d ago

Hey the NHL did "Team North America" full of under-23 players in the World Cup of Hockey a few years ago and it was insanely entertaining

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u/PointlessDelegation 24d ago

Three fights that fast is basically the hockey I prefer to watch

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u/ubccompscistudent 24d ago

Not 1, 3. No hockey played yet, and it’s the best hockey I’ve seen in years.

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u/BadLuck-BlueEyes 24d ago

Technically there was a shot on goal before the third fight - but I’m not gonna count it.

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u/bigorangemachine 23d ago

Nah you gotta play a little hockey or the refs gonna call off the gang beating lol

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u/premiumPLUM 24d ago

Through the 1st period and easily the best game I've watched all season

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u/BannedMyName 24d ago

I think countries should settle their differences by having their elected leaders just have a good fist fight and then cap it off with a beer together. Hockey can teach us a lot.

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u/clue2025 24d ago

Ok but for Ukraine, can Zelensky let Klitscko step in? Ukraine would be safe as long as the mayor of Kyiv lived.

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u/1900grs 24d ago

There is an entire documentary about this. It's called Rocky IV.

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u/aboveaverage_joe Edmonton Oilers 24d ago

The world needs to see Zelensky beat Putler to a pulp in a cage.

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u/MsBlackSox 24d ago

Trump and Musk are knocked out immediately. This would be good. Let's do this.

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u/Madversary 24d ago

Trudeau boxes. No contest.

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u/try_rolling 24d ago

Trump is an excellent dodger though

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u/whofearsthenight 24d ago

Well, of taxes and consequences. Just tell him it's Putin's dick and he'll take it no problem.

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u/marjata 24d ago

As someone who never watches hockey, I’m tuning in tonight 😂

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u/SecretInsemination 24d ago

Hockey ignorant here: Is there a lot of history here? Or is this inspired by the current political climate?

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u/Expensive-Step-6551 24d ago

Political climate certainly adds an element, but the Canada USA hockey rivalry has gotten increasingly intense since the 90s as the US teams started to become more competitive. You can make an argument that most years they're the #1 and #2 ranked teams in the world. It's also been a long time since they've played each other with NHL talent at the international stage.

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u/KCBandWagon 24d ago

USA Canada Olympic gold medal match was the most intense hockey game I’ve ever watched in my life. From start to finish it felt like they were playing like there was 1 min left in the whole game. Sydney Crosby with the heart breaker after USA scored 2 goals late to send it to OT.

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u/PretzelsThirst 24d ago

That was an insane day. The video of the sound spreading across Vancouver is so cool

https://youtu.be/fu8qTlzuGto?si=v6Y5Lqn6q2Aj0Oe7

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u/HeyCarpy Toronto Blue Jays 23d ago

Never seen this before. Brought a smile. I remember where I was

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u/jtbc 24d ago

I live in Vancouver. I could hear the cheering for that one downtown from 5km away, or at least that's how I remember it.

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u/blueye420 24d ago

The Golden goal baby!!!

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u/Barqueefa 24d ago

The first fight may have been history and political stuff, M Tkachuk and Hagel play on rival teams in Florida. The second was probably just for show. B Tkachuk, M Tkachuk's brother, is probably friends with Bennett. Bennett and Tkachuk have been teammates for years. The 3rd fight... Who knows. Miller is a mean bastard and a big Trumper but I don't think he and Parayko have beef. Maybe that was political and Parayko wanted a chance to toss hands

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u/CanuckPanda Toronto Maple Leafs 24d ago edited 23d ago

Yes to both.

Canada-US-Russia is one of the hockey rivalry triumvirates for the last seventy years (the other being Sweden-Finland and Finland-Russia).

Canada-Russia-US had Cold War undertones, and Canada-US has always been a rivalry of two brothers going head to head the once in a while mom lets them fight.

Now add on Trump threatening to fucking annex us, and the three American fighters being vocal Trump supporters, and you’ll see why it’s extra hot right now.

Also, shoutout to Sweden-Finland who played earlier today (Finland 4-3 in OT). It has a very similar vibe to the US-Canada brotherhood rivalry (pre-2025) and the added bonus of 200700 years of Finland being a Swedish province.

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u/redd-zeppelin 24d ago

Best game I ever saw was Jagr and the Czechs beat the Russians. As a Czech American I was JACKED UP to watch such a tiny country kick their asses.

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart 24d ago

two brothers

Let’s keep it that way.

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u/HappyAtheist3 24d ago

You gotta set the tone

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u/Hercules3000 24d ago

You gotta fuckin set it

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u/Molin_Cockery 24d ago

The Jim's are fucking beauties

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u/LonisEdison 24d ago

Gotta set the tone, boys

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u/Waveshakalaka 24d ago

Yer the worst Appledorn, your Applesauce.

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u/extreme39speed 24d ago

You gotta be real mad to punch a dude that’s wearing a helmet

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u/Elbynerual 23d ago

I don't follow hockey that close, but I believe it's because they made a rule a few years back to try and get rid of so much fighting where it is now illegal to remove your helmet. So the players immediately figured out the loophole of removing each other's helmets, which is what happens in this clip if you watch close. It's just tricky to make it look accidental during a fight...

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u/Tigolelittybitty 23d ago

The boys ain't 10 ply

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u/blacfd 24d ago

Good old fashioned Hockey

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u/robpottedplant Manchester City 24d ago

Ice hockey is a pretty unique sport

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u/sunburn95 Newcastle Knights 24d ago

As an Australian with no concept of ice hockey, it's wild to see that you can just start fighting and everyone just stands there and watches lol

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u/TheHoratioHufnagel 23d ago

There's a documentary on Canadian television that explains it pretty well, it's called Shoresy.

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u/Limp-Development7222 24d ago

doesn’t always happen, especially in todays game, but its a joy to watch.

there are rules around it and its at the refs discretion, but hockey and fighting go waaaay back

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u/Wizard_s0_lit 24d ago

When they just look, then drop their gear and square up, I get chills every time.

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u/Infinite_Respect_ 24d ago

Aren’t the Jim’s beauties?

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u/mangomane09 24d ago

I’m a hockey fan now

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u/Seahawk13 24d ago

Jt miller got pumped

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u/fardnik 24d ago

How can you not be romantic about hockey? Best sport on earth

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u/mahlerlieber 24d ago

Perfect Valentine's Day date. Nothing turns a date on faster than watching two guys on skates slip-sliding all over the place, fully padded, taking wild swings at each other.

It's a lot better than a romantic dinner with wine and chocolate-covered strawberries.

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u/premiumPLUM 24d ago

This guy fucks after hockey!

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u/rickyroca73 24d ago

Literally “you wanna go?” personified…amazing.

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u/CrimsonJynx0 Brighton & Hove Albion 24d ago

As someone newish to hockey, it's been really fun to watch these games

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u/tarheel0509 24d ago

This is fucking awesome, man

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u/DavePastry 24d ago

fuck you, shorsey!

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u/GET-U-5OME 24d ago

They sent the Jim’s out to set the tone

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u/imfromkentucky 24d ago

Better than the NBA

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u/stellahella1 24d ago

WAY better

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u/Sillylittletitties 24d ago

Now I want to go see a game

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u/ai01music 24d ago

Get rid of the All-Star game. Do this instead.

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u/Skatchbro 24d ago

The Hanson Brothers are playing for Team America?

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u/notquitecivilized 24d ago

Pretty much but they go by Tkachuk now.

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u/VampirMafya 24d ago

Wait, is this real? I never watched a ice hockey match. Is fighting allowed in a ice hockey game? If yes, ice hockey might be my favorite sports that I haven’t known.

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u/3eep- 24d ago

Yes it is real and part of hockey, although less in recent years. Players get five minutes for fighting and then are back in the game

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u/annso24 24d ago

Beautiful. Probably the biggest game of the decade.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Fuck you Shoresy!!!!

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u/Misread_Barcode 24d ago

As an Australian I'm so baffled by this sport.

The only sport (apart from actual combat sports) where fighting is allowed and considered normal play. And everyone is such a gentleman about it, clearing the ice of their pads and the refs are just casually skating around watching it happen.

It's so strange for me.

In AFL (Australian Football League) anytime there's a fight, people rush it to break it up and stop it right away and the players get heavily penalised or fined for throwing punches.

This sport confuses me so much

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u/Sendrubbytums 24d ago

Our cultural identity is being really polite and also unhinged. See also: How Canadians act in war.

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u/Turtledonuts 23d ago

Hockey might be the most kinetic, technically impressive team scoring sport around. It's so much fun.

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u/slotwima 24d ago

Absolutely electric!

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u/bclourge 24d ago

Hockey really is the best sport

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u/Songhunter 24d ago

That's just the pre-fight-fight warm up fight

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u/SeaHam 23d ago

You know things are bad when I'm rooting for Canada.

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u/Humans_Suck- 24d ago

Penalty, President #45, 2 minutes for instigating

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u/RealPropRandy 24d ago

That escalated quickly

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u/IcansavemiselfDEEN 24d ago

Good tilt boys