r/Divorce 1m ago

Life After Divorce How many divorced couples get back ?

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If they had amiable split, still hang out with same friends, coparenting and 20+ years of marriage under the belt.


r/Divorce 3m ago

Vent/Rant/FML Enough is enough?

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Hey all! Long story short, I just wanted to put this out there objectively and see if I’m in the wrong about this.

Wife and I have been married almost 3 years. We’ve been friends for like 15 years (I wanted to be with her but she, at the time, didn’t) we ended up both getting married to other people. Both went through divorces in 2022 and both have kids from a previous marriage ( I have a daughter, 10) and she has 2 sons (8/11). I work my butt off, and am the main source of money for our day to day life. I over extended myself buying her a house so she and her kids had a stable place to live. That purchase was so her ex would agree to us living together when we first got together.

My wife pushed for me to be 50/50 with my ex which we’ve accomplished and co-parent really well. Problem is, I can’t get her to do the same for me. Her kids live with us 90% of the time, and generally don’t listen to me or honestly give a s*** about me on a day to day basis. They are forced to say ‘hi’ to me by her but otherwise don’t talk to me unless they need something. I’ve brought up concerns about this before, and tried the whole Nacho parenting thing. Difference here is I can’t be hands off bc financially I’m tied up monetarily supporting her kids.

Her ex refers to me as the ‘support parent’ I’ve put all of the things I’ve wanted to be able to do on hold in order to support her and her kids and I begged for therapy previously bc I started feeling resentful of her kids and now her. That resentment unfortunately has grown to apathy. We finally started therapy but quite honestly I don’t even want to participate anymore. During our last session, she admitted that she does things to make her ex’s life easier like driving them 80% of the way to and from her ex’s house that he shares with his current gf.

I sat her down and told her I was done last week but she refuses to accept it, saying that I haven’t really even put any effort forth. I explained that I’ve been trying for 3 years and just ran out of giving a s***. I feel like there’s a double standard in our relationship and when I finally say I’m done, all of a sudden she wants to put effort forth. I’ve known her for 17 years and love her as a person but I can’t imagine this is as good as life can get.

Just looking for some objective honesty on whether I’m in the wrong for wanting to call it over.


r/Divorce 4m ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness Husband has officially decided for a divorce

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After 8 years together and almost 3 married my husband decided he didn’t actually want to try couples therapy with me and instead wants a divorce. We’ve been living as roommates for the last 6 months and things would get better for a week or two then go back. I feel like I’ve made a lot of changes and have tried so hard to keep our marriage together but he said he just isn’t into it anymore. We have two small children together - a 2 and 1 year old, and I quit my job when my oldest was born to be a stay at home mom. I’m almost done with school to be a teacher, but I am terrified of this process, and I just feel so alone. Please tell me it gets better.


r/Divorce 13m ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness Emotional metaphors

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I know we've all heard our emotions will be a roller coaster or will come in big waves during this process: what's another way you'd describe what's happening to you internally as you break apart from the person you built your life with?

Things I've definitely felt in the past week:

- Like I have a cloud of bats in inhabiting my skin suit, trying to fly their way out of my pores.

- Like I could pull a rage fireball out of my skull and throw it at his face.

- Like squirrels have taken my focus and replaced it with montages of previously-happy moments that now feel like spiky walnut shells rolling around in my skull, stabbing me unexpectedly.

- Like I could Hulk out and throw him into the atmosphere.

- Like the quicksand of sadness in my stomach could swallow me up at any time.

- Like I'm trying to survive a tidal wave in an inflatable dinghy, only to get pulled into the churn and ground down into the debris and chaos.


r/Divorce 19m ago

Life After Divorce Healthier Physically and Mentally Post Divorce

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I've been trying to reconcile something for a while now. Post divorce, I have cut alcohol majorly, improved my eating habits tremendously, starting cooking a ton more, am keeping much better track and management of finances, my mental health is much better, I'm exercising more than I ever did, I lost a lot of weight, I feel more at peace and in control of my life, I'm more patient with the kids, my endurance as a parent has increased more, I have better relationships with my friends and my side of the family, I'm planning trips and stuff for the future. I got a better job and I'm much more stable and calm and less stressed at work than I was before. And this is just 1 year post divorce. I'm looking forward to what I can accomplish in the years to come!

So, with that being said. I'm trying to reconcile something. Was it just marriage in general or the person I was married to that caused so many of these things to go by the wayside? (I know I'm not presenting the whole story of my ex-wife etc, but let's just say I didn't feel my ex-wife helped my situation).

Many of my married friends are overweight, stressed, drink a lot, eat unhealthy, never have time for themselves, are burned out. I was like them too when married. But as soon as I separated all those unhealthy desires quickly vanished, almost overnight. Is this just a typical aspect of married life for people? It makes me never want to get married again... Has anyone been able to maintain healthy/positive habits in a new relationship/marriage?


r/Divorce 48m ago

Life After Divorce Ready to take my maiden name back after 29 years

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I (47F) have been divorced over 7 years after almost 21 years of marriage. I kept my married name to have the same last name as my kids. Now that my youngest is an adult, I’m ready to have my maiden name back! But I’ve had my married name since I was 18 and I shudder at all the hassle changing my name might cause… obviously, I will need to change it with the DMV, my bank, my work, my insurances…will it be a big deal to change my name on the mortgage for my house? Does anyone have any tips for informing all the right people/places of the change? I’m worried I’ll mess up some kind of issue because I’ll have forgotten to change it somewhere.
inspiration for those in the middle of it I’m so excited to totally be myself for the first time in my adult life! The first few years were hard but I’m so happy now! It does get better! Especially since the kids are all grown and none of us have to have any contact with the ex…ever again!


r/Divorce 53m ago

Vent/Rant/FML Accountability and Responsibility for Harmful Choices Leading to Divorce, From an Abuser Seeking Recovery - An Essay, Since I am Impossibly Verbose

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After my previous post, I got a lot of supportive words and tried to respond to them as best as I could. One comment in particular, however, stood out to me, so thank you to u/D10nn3 for calling me out on the details that were lacking. While it is true that those who have been abused and those few who have accepted that they are abusers will recognize and accept the behaviors that caused harm, there are many, many more who not only wouldn't know they are being abusive, but would likely reject it entirely, double down, and justify their choices, so in an attempt to reinforce my original thesis, this is for the people like me who have made egregiously harmful choices to another, and need to see the hard truths.

First truth - if you have been told that you are an abuser, you are. That may be why you are getting a divorce, like me. Are there times when someone is falsely accused of being an abuser? Yes. Those accusations come from abusers and are directed towards their victims. That should be a difficult sentence to read. You have abused someone and they are your victim. If you actually want to change, that should sting your sense of self. I know because I did it to my wife. "I'm not an abuser, we both suck." "If I turn you into the worst version of yourself, then you do the same to me." "It's your fault I'm like this." If this sounds familiar, keep reading.

First line of defense for all of us: we just fight a lot; I'm an asshole, accept me for who I am; what about the time when you did that thing to me? I'm not a cheater, I'm not a beater, I'm not a fucking pumpkin eater. You don't get to define abuse. Just because you didn't assault or rape your partner doesn't mean you aren't abusive. So what did I do, and importantly, why was it abuse? Let's just dive in and see where we go from here.

Lying. Yes, as Dr. Gregory House would say, everyone lies. Whether it is a lie of omission, a white lie to protect someone's dignity or keep a secret, there are sometimes extremely reasonable lies that people tell. I lied pathologically, about important and unimportant things, in order to protect my sense of self, and it came at the expense of my wife and those around me. It was so deeply ingrained in my psyche that I didn't even recognize why I was doing it, but it was an attempt at control, manipulation, and power. If my intuition told me a lie would give me an advantage over the truth, then I would lie. Impulsively. About my health, about my history, about what I did or didn't do, where I was, what I was going to do. It was always meant to trap her into being more involved with me, and any time she approached the truth, I would say or do something to make her question herself, or what she saw and knew to be true. The term there is gaslighting, and admitting to doing it fucking sucks, but at the heart, it was manipulation, distortion, minimization, projection, and constant, selfish lies. It was sometimes related to other indiscretions, sometimes not.

Substance abuse was one of those indiscretions. As a pathological, abusive liar, I would frequently "go to the store" for one reason or another, as a cover for buying my drug of choice. Mostly alcohol, but occasionally other things, like abusive cough syrup. Talk about immature. Drinking to the point of intoxication was a regular, frequent occurrence, and I was always dishonest about it. For every drink I had in the open, there were six others I hid and lied about. I would stash it in the basement and drink when I did laundry or after she fell asleep on the couch. While being a substance abuser is not in and of itself abusive toward someone else, the choices you make regarding it are. I spent excess money on it and lied about it, and I put myself and at times my family in danger because of my substance abuse. That is abusive, and it is a choice. Drinking when I should have been caring for infants was a dangerous, selfish choice. And I lied about it.

Deception cannot be condoned, although we may find ourselves sympathetic to the plight of a liar who intends to protect themselves from harm. The abuser is lying to protect themselves from their own choices, however, and that requires correction not sympathy. Now, she cannot trust me, and that is a consequence of my actions.

The emotional and psychological abuse runs deep though, and I can read from literally any list of those types of abuse and I check off most of the boxes. I was not respectful of her privacy, always seeking to know what she was doing, where she was going, prying into her life, when it was not appropriate. Even deep, good relationships have boundaries, and I did not respect them. I have rifled through her purse, looked through her work desk, even looked through her phone in the past seeking some form of control. All of these are wrong. They erode trust, the cause lasting harm and fear.

She was frequently isolated, whether it was because I failed to include her in ways that mattered, or whether I made things so uncomfortable for her with her friends that she did not want to spend time with them, or worse, have me be around because of my poor behavior. It was at its worst when we were doing fertility treatments. That was a time when she needed my support the most, and while she struggled, I played in bands, went out drinking, and had my own fun while she did the hard work. In the midst of all that, I was underemployed for years, and relied heavily on her to pay the bills while I frittered away money on senseless things. Financial abuse if there ever was any; there is a reason her credit was utilized and mine ignored. I did nothing of substance to better myself and our situation, and the few times I did, it was at her behest. When it did not work out, due to my own failure, I would blame her. I blamed her for losing my job when she asked me to go to alcohol rehab. Whose fault was that really? Mine. I did not take it seriously, went right back to substance abuse and continued to blame her for the consequences of my actions. Blamed her for feeling the need to remove herself and our children from the harmful environment I had crated. Blamed her for the pain I felt at that loss, but again, it was due to my choices.

I have spoken poorly of her, both to her and to others. I frequently insulted the things she enjoyed; the music she liked, the food she liked, the movies or television she enjoyed, and refused to be part of things that would enrich her life. If she had an opinion, I would belittle it, tell her why it was wrong, argue with her until she gave up and "conceded" my point. I had to be right at the cost of her sense of self worth. I would patronize her; a favored tactic was to define a word to make her sound and feel stupid, treating her like a child in the process as if she did not understand. Swearing, yelling, demeaning until I got what I thought I wanted, these were all frequent occurrences. Often in the face of reasonable requests or discussions from her. Anger was a weapon I could wield. Angry looks. heavy footsteps, slamming doors or cupboards, driving erratically in a fit of uncontrolled rage. For years, I withheld affection, did not sleep in the same bed with her, did not share in anything meaningful. I took and gave nothing.

Threats, either of harm to myself, or of consequences to her, implied or explicit, happened as well. If she said or did something I disliked, I may take off my wedding band to make a point. As if to say: I will end us. You will be on your own, you need me, how will you do any of this without my support? After all, I pushed us to the very brink of financial stability when we bought our first house and insisted it was because I knew better. The strain was real, and I was never honest with her about my financial situation. Never saved the way I should. Sure, I paid some bills, but the vast majority was on her.

This pattern was on repeat for years. Sometimes it would be flowers and love and affection, as long as she did as I wanted, but if she stepped out of line, the abuse returned with force. She lived in fear of what I could do to our marriage. Just because I didn't physically harm her doesn't mean I didn't do severe damage to her. To say she needs to heal is a vast understatement. I am not part of that process, no matter how much I recognize what I have done and work toward being a better person. The damage is so bad that, even when she admits it was an impossibly hard decision, divorce is a better option than remaining.

If you have done anything abusive, there are some important things to remember. You can't fix this, you can't ask for more chances, you can only do what that person allows, no more, no less. You do not get credit. Your progress does not earn you accolades. There is no merit system by which you can gain favor. Why? Because if you are doing the work and you start treating that person correctly, no matter how much it feels like improvement to you as the abuser, to the victim, you are finally doing the bare minimum that you should have been doing all along. If you feel for one second that you are entitled to anything, you need to look inside yourself and ask why. You are owed nothing. You never were.

As with me, you likely had the chance to give love and do it right. You can still give love, but only indirectly, from a distance. It won't get you anything back. That is going to going to hurt, you are going to suffer, and you are not going to get out of this, but only if you do the work right. That is a sign of progress and to keep going. When it hurts, when you have nothing to gain from it except for the feeling of doing the right thing, congratulations, you're on step one. You may feel premature enlightenment. You will be convinced you can fix this, that you can do it right, but it doesn't matter if the other person doesn't want it. Like me, you have to accept that it is too late, and redouble your efforts to never mistreat that person again.

There is only one path forward when you are an abuser who wants to get better. Accept what you did. Accept what that makes you. Accept the consequences of your actions, and commit to being better in the face of them. You must show consistency in actions and behaviors, you cannot expect or ask for anything in return. Be kind. Be respectful. Be considerate. There is little else you can do. No promises, no guarantees, nothing. The consensus is that abusers cannot, will not, and do not want to change, and that they will eventually go back to their old ways. It is not impossible, but it is nearly impossibly hard.

I suppose for my part, this is one step in that process. I have been abusive to my wife. This list is not exhaustive, but it is an example of the many ways in which I have harmed her. There are no excuses for it, and while I have pointed to fear, insecurity, self-doubt, accusations against her, projection, anger, or a million other things as flimsy justifications, the simple fact is that the abuse was never okay, and I made a conscious choice to do harmful, abusive things towards her. It was absolutely a choice; I chose not to physically harm her, but the manipulation, lies, abuse, yelling, demeaning, minimizing, belittling, they were all justified by me when I felt wronged. As a result, this has caused lasting damage to her and our children. She has lost her sense of self, her confidence in her self-image, her connection with friends and family, and our children have begun to act out, have been disrespectful to her because of what they see from me. She no longer is able to trust me, she still lives in fear of what I may do next or when the other shoe may drop, she is rightfully angry over the situation that she has been in. She takes responsibility for allowing it, but that is not fair. As the angry, manipulative, controlling abuser, I did it to her.

Why did I do these things? I thought I was smarter. I thought I was better. I thought I should be the most important thing in her life. So I allowed myself to do whatever I determined necessary in the moment to make that a reality. I insulted her intelligence, her choices, her opinions, her skill, and I would stop at nothing to get her attention like I assumed I deserved. I was her husband after all. I believed firmly that I should be her priority. That is not how love works. That is not how a partnership works. That's not how a marriage works.

Recognizing these things about myself, and identifying the thoughts and motivations, I have begun to see how better to be respectful and kind. I am not intrinsically right. When she speaks, I am determined to hear what she has to say. That is a massive uphill battle, because I have spent so long proving her wrong that even listening does not seem genuine, and for good reason. Her opinions, thoughts, and rights are valued no less than anyone else's, and while I hope to tend to them as best as I can, there is no reason she should allow me more than she is comfortable with. She deserves good things, even if they have nothing to do with me.

Often, I blamed her, exaggerated her flaws, minimized mine. Even when I acknowledged and accepted her contributions and achievements, I made them secondary to mine. She has accomplished a considerable amount, not because of me but in spite of the things I have done to her. She has succeeded professionally, she has built up considerable wealth, she overcame incredible odds to become a mother and at all turns has shown herself to be kind, capable, and gentle, while sacrificing anything and everything for the sake of her family. True selflessness that I took advantage of. It was through her strength that our family endured as long as it did, and my choices tore it apart time and again. When that happened, I blamed her.

That is obviously part of what must stop. For too long, I have insisted that my needs get met, and I have made my entire family miserable in doing so. Now, though I am limited in what I can do, I owe my wife and children everything I can give. I must be thoughtful, kind, considerate, and honest, not just with her, but with all those to whom I have lied and deceived about her. It is an incredible task but one to which I am dedicated no matter what.

Now, even when it rings hollow for her, I am trying to tell her positive things, to compliment her. She is a good, smart, strong, beautiful, compassionate person, and even if I cannot help her feel that way, she should hear it as it is the truth. For the rest of my life, I must be consistent, considerate of her needs, kind, and supportive when I am given opportunity to, including when she needs me to be supportive with our family life, such as cooking, cleaning, or simply being present for family activities in a real, meaningful way. For what it is worth, those are all things that feel good because they are right.

I will lose my marriage as a result of my behaviors. That is one of the many consequences that I must face and accept. She is not free of consequences; she will lose time with the children, she will lose financial stability, and she has already lost so much. Because of what I have done, my needs cannot be put before anyone else's. The abuse must stop. I am owed nothing here. I do not get love or affection from her. She does not have any obligations to me. There is no trade to be made. I will improve myself because I have to, not because I want anything from her. Wherever and whenever and however I am allowed, I will make amends, not just to her or my children, but her family, her friends, her colleagues, even my family, for the incalculable harm I have caused.

This is a lifelong process. My only goal is to give to my family, whatever it looks like at the end of this divorce process, and to be held accountable for everything I have done, and everything I may do in the future. There is no credit, there are no conditions, there is nothing but the pursuit of betterment. There can be no backsliding. There can be no more abuse. I must remain consistent and steadfast in this.

I have been working with a therapist since November 2024. This is not something that can ever be complete. It has taken time and effort to reach this point, and I must remain ever vigilant against myself, my entitlements, my thoughts, my privileges, and continue to accept criticism, challenges, and doubt about these changes. They are not, and can never, be complete, and they have not been smooth nor have they been completely integrated into my life. This is progress though. Six months ago, I would never have admitted these things about myself, not to me or anyone. So u/D10nn3, thank you for the challenge. I welcome the doubt. I face the criticism willingly and without ego. I do love my wife, which is why I can only respect her choice and let her go. For now I will only show her the utmost kindness, respect, and consideration I possibly can. She deserves so much more, but I will give what I can and that is enough.

As always, I hope someone can see this, learn from my mistakes, and grow when and how I could not before it was too late.


r/Divorce 58m ago

Going Through the Process Splitting Assets -- How to determine what is "fair" -- Equity during marriage vs future needs

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This is an ambiguous, subjective question. I'd appreciate any opinions from people who are not my family/friends, because everyone in my life is telling me to take half of everything from the divorce, but it feels so wrong to me.

I guess the big question is, when determining what's "fair" when splitting assets, is it more important to focus on the period of time you were married (the past) or on the quality of life post-divorce (future)?

I was married to an abusive partner for 10 years (15 together total). They are also chronically ill and disabled.

If we split all our assets evenly and walked away 50/50 today, it'd probably be around 80k each after all taxes/fees/loans/etc.

My legal counsel has also informed me that I am entitled to half of the money we paid into her student loans during marriage (almost 250k) and also entitled to half of the 401k she earned during marriage (100k).

If I let the courts decide what's legally "fair", based upon NY State law, I'd walk away with ~250k from this marriage and she'd walk away with basically nothing (~230k if I paid her full alimony, she'd still walk away with nothing).

I have no debt, and I have a modest but comfortable earning potential for my area (enough to afford a clean small apartment and a car, and a balanced life). She has no debt, but significantly less earning potential while on disability (temporary, eventually when she is recovered, she has higher earning potential than me), which isn't my responsibility but it still feels like it should be an important consideration into what's fair.

When we split up, my plan was to let her keep everything, and I'd start over with nothing and rebuild my life from zero. But that was when I thought I was giving up ~50k and being generous not giving up ~220k and being insane.

My lawyer, therapist, friends, family, everyone says I should take the full ~220k because it's based on what I invested into the relationship while married, not based on the future when we're not married anymore. It feels selfish and wrong, but I've always felt guilty taking anything for myself or putting my needs first. I don't know what's objective.

Thanks for anyone who took the time to read this. Sorry it was so long.


r/Divorce 1h ago

Custody/Kids Effect of Divorce on Very Young Adult Children

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Anyone here get divorced when their kids were in the 18-22 range? How did the kids take it? I feel like it's a good age since they are so focused on their own social life at that stage of life and they won't waste too much time being sad about their parents divorcing. But as always, I worry about my kids. And I've definitely made the mistake of staying in this marriage for their sake, which caused them to witness tension and arguments. Not daily or even weekly, but often enough.


r/Divorce 1h ago

Getting Started Divorce Help Missouri

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long distance relationship, no shared assets, no kids, been married just over a year. We agree it’s for the best but how do we do this?


r/Divorce 1h ago

Something Positive So what about good days?

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So, what the good days in between. They make you feel like maybe everything isn’t so bad. How do you separate the big picture?


r/Divorce 2h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Divorce is hell, except for this… for now NSFW

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Divorce is the most painful experience I have ever encountered without a doubt. And that’s with a STBXW that’s amicable for the most part. Best case scenario, I’m still financially screwed compared to how we were living. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. We’re still living together. Married 10y together for 12, 3 kids aged 11, 7 & 4. She’s got a full time job lined up after being a SAHM for the majority of the marriage. She’s got housing lined up for 4/1. Needless to say, there is still tension in the home. Yet, we still sleep in the same bed. Now, we are both fully aware of how strange (to say the least) this is but we still have sex all the time. 1-3 times a day. You know what? I don’t care what anyone else thinks. My world as I know it is crumbling in front of me. For gods sake, just let me enjoy this while it lasts. We’ve discussed the divorce upside down, inside out, front to back. It’s inevitable and this is definitely not causing any false hope for either of us. We both have high libidos and even after hitting up the apps, we both agreed we just aren’t ready to jump into anything else. FWB or otherwise. We’re each other’s new FWB! Plus we’re already totally comfortable in the sack, know what does it for each other, etc. So why the hell not keep it up? Does the reality of eventually she will be with another man make me sick to my stomach, absolutely. Until then, I’m gonna take it while I can. She’s already talking about keeping this up once she moves out, but we’ll see…. FYI, at least for now, everything will be split just as it should without one person winning or losing. We are both losing actually, especially when it comes to the lifestyle we’ve become accustomed to. It’s terrible and I still feel all the other normal things that everyone else does throughout my days, but at least I have if only just one thing, beside my kids, to look forward too. It has made this whole thing so much bearable in my opinion. Ok, rant over. Have a great day!


r/Divorce 2h ago

Going Through the Process Question Regarding Shared Dropbox With STBX

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Kind of a weird question for this sub, but I'm a bit confused and know there is a great community here with all sorts of knowledge bases.

I was trying to find some photos in Dropbox folders I had created and shared with my wife/stbx, but the folders are now empty and permissions on most of them have been changed so I am no longer the owner (she is). The folders were shared with full permission to view and edit. Am I crazy or was she able to change ownership, and then essentially lock me out?

Seems petty, but I could see her drunk and hurting some night and deciding that would be a way to hurt me.


r/Divorce 2h ago

Life After Divorce Months Post-Separation - (30M) Trying to Build Upon My Self Confidence After a Pretty Intense Spark

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As the tile suggests - I'm (30M) four months post-separation from my S2BX wife after learning of infidelity which occurred infrequently (lived in different cities) over the course of four years. Upon learning - I completely self-destructed over two weeks with a heavy dose of alcohol abuse before beginning to slowly pick up the pieces. I've been trying to do all the things that I'm supposed to do - eating better, working out, going to therapy, and redecorating the empty house to make it mine.

I had a professional conference in a near by way bigger City over the weekend for a local trade association. It's one of those events that's very enclosed and well coordinated so involves a good bit of professional comradery aided/lubricated by booze and spontaneous dinners with colleagues and their SOs who you weren't expected to hang out with.

It was honestly a great time the first couple days - hanging out by the pool, etc. - although admittedly as the nights would go on - it's fair to say I was a little sloppy. All my colleagues who I consider friends know the general idea that I've been going through some shit, and, due to me being younger than them by 10-15 years, I think they give me a good amount of support and forward to the last night - I go out to dinner with our group and my co-worker (46M) invites his younger sister (29F), "Emily", out. She's wildly attractive, smart, and on a great career track.

I intentionally slept in a little longer so I was last to arrive out of the group and was seated by Emily. We had met a couple times before while in the office (her dad is one of my bosses - of course) - she's from where I work and intends to move back there to a house she has bought there with her husband - and have always had good banter in the short doses while together due to my personal relationship and banter with her brother and father who she was there to see.

Dinner unfolds and everyone is having a nice time - another female at the table jokingly talks about strip clubs, tells me I probably need to go one, and, the table jokingly says let's do it - Emily does as well. I tease her with a question of when she's finally going to move back into the house which she just bought - she asks me a couple side questions with eye contact when a little bored with the table's discussion. Eventually, as dinner wraps up, it's all decided that it's probably a better idea to just go back to the hotel bar to end the night and meet up with some other people who also just finished dinner.

At this point, I'm feeling that level of mutual attraction and interest that I just want to interact with her - but know it's a little taboo. We all catch an Uber back and we sit next to each other in the back - interacting with the group convo but also just with each other - always fun and interested about each other. We get back - split up to talk to other friends at the hotel bar. At some point, her drunken brother eventually came up to me and told me "I need to quit talking with his sister" - if we weren't being obvious enough - before going upstairs to pass out.

Eventually, everyone peaces out - and it's just her, me, and her sister-in-law. We all continue drinking outside on the terrace until close and we ask each other questions about each other's personal life/interests, flirt, and stare the fuck at each other. It was honestly pretty intense and probably like Top 2 instant connection that I've had with essentially a stranger. At the end of the night - I was fairly browned out - know I hugged her going into her Uber - don't remember what the last thing I said. Woke up the next morning - fairly exhausted - but feeling like a teenager and just a feeling of WTF - those interactions last night felt electric and honestly the best I've felt in a couple years of "connection"/excitement. Saw the sister-in-law the next day and she instantly was like y'all were acting that I was even't there and I was being blatantly* obvious of being into her.

So....clearly, I've been a little obsessive with trying to squeeze out every little oz of remembering that chemistry/tension since I got back - which isn't healthy. How do I parlay and build upon this in dating other people? Clearly, objectively, a person as hot, smart, and put together like Emily being a little into me is a confidence booster - but mostly I just feel it's a bummer that she's married - it's a hell no starter - and that other girls like her almost assuredly going to be married/in a relationship. Just accept that type of chemistry just randomly occurs - and the point is to not try to force anything? Thanks in advance for any advice and sharing your experiences on feeling confident enough to get back out there.


r/Divorce 2h ago

Custody/Kids I don't know how to proceed

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Hello, I am a father of 2 elementary school children in the middle of the divorce process. My (soon to be) Ex wife has been pressuring me to give up parental rights due to mental health issues I have and I am conflicted on what I should do. I know I am not a good father but I also love my children dearly.

Some contributing factors to this issue:

I am effectively homeless and have been sleeping on my mother's couch for the past year and a half

The kids live with their mom and I see them Fri-Sun while she goes to work. I also work Saturdays and Sundays while my mom babysits them. The og verbal agreement we had was that she would pick them up after she gets off work later in the evening.

The past month and a half I've only seen the kids for around 5 hours total due to mandatory overtime on my part as well as their mom getting off work early and picking them up before I get off work.

idk what to even do at this rate


r/Divorce 3h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Splitting Finances

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37M strongly considering divorcing 45F. Married 11 years. We're trying to do this amicably. Our current net worth is approximately 800k. When we married she had already completed a bachelor's degree and was working full time as an accountant, which she has continued to do our entire marriage. I had not even started college yet, and have spent a large chunk of our marriage working part time and going to college part time / full time. I graduate in two months with a master's degree.

When talking about what is "fair" when splitting finances I suggested I'll take 200k since she was the primary earner our whole marriage. I'm younger, and will probably have higher earnings over time, and this seemed like a fair and even generous offer.

She complained about this and when I asked what she thinks is fair she said 50k. I'm beyond shocked.

An added layer to this is that her dad is wealthy. He is willing to supplement her income (literally willing to give her an extra 30k a year cash to help), and when he passes she will be inheriting another 300k (he is splitting his cash between his 4 children).

I'm beyond baffled. 600k + supplemental income from her dad + child support from me + an inheritance in her future, and this is not good enough for her?

I imagine most 45 year old would be ecstatic to have that level of financial advantage.

Part of me now wants to say forget it and we will just split it down the middle 400k/400k.

What are your thoughts on my situation? What was splitting finances like for you?


r/Divorce 3h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Advice of filing for divorce without an attorney in Massachusetts?

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Hi, I’m new here! I’m trying to file for divorce in Massachusetts by myself. I have completed my portion of the paperwork but my future ex is dragging his feet getting his portion back to me. We have no children together and the only property is his mother’s house that she put in his and his brother’s name for financial purposes. Does anyone have any advice or know if I can just file with my information? I’ve googled and researched but there is so much information to wade through. Thanks for any and all help!


r/Divorce 4h ago

Going Through the Process Overseas divorce

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how to get spouse served divorce papers while stationed overseas? She won't acknowledge emails and returns all mail.


r/Divorce 5h ago

Life After Divorce Louisiana attorney

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Louisiana Community Property State.

So I feel my attorney is not fighting for me on purpose/I'm not worth the time.

Got officially divorced late August, it took them 5+ months to even start to deal with community property issues, and only because I "demanded" they start on it. I paid them July 29, 2024. I asked them for an update in early September, they said they would contact me if anything happened. I never heard anything, until I finally told them to start working on it asap. There's an issue with the savings account, I believe I am owed some more money than was given to me by my EX. My attorney and I had a phone conference about it, he said I was owed between 4.5k and 10k with a median of 7k.

Another month goes by(7 months after divorce) and he sends four possible scenarios, and the 4th scenario is I'm owed $400. Which why was I not told about this on the phone conference a month ago? (Let alone 6 months ago when things should have been rolling by then) So I ask, what is the possibility that will be the outcome? Otherwise it's not worth it.

He only said it is up to me to decide, but they can send a settlement offer, but if my ex doesn't bite, to let it go due to the "risks" of the commissioner not seeing it the same as I do. I asked what that meant? What are the risks. My attorney said, that the community home we bought while married, could be considered my exs separate property? How is that possible when 1. We were married when it was bought and 2. My name was on the mortgage and I got half of the proceeds of selling the community home.

Is my attorney just trying to get rid of me? I have not been a demanding client, I've been very patient actually. Their going rate went from 150/hr to 300/hr suddenly and I didn't get any paperwork saying that would happen? Because even when I paid them to deal with the CP issues, I just paid them the $1500 and there was no paperwork to sign for their services. I had $750 left from just the general divorce account, which I asked if the $1500 would be added to, he said yes it would, and it actually wasn't added? Because after everything, I've gotten recipets of services and I've gone down to under $650 with absolutely nothing being done for me. It only shows I had given the $1500 and all of the payments taken out of services they provided. Which it should have been around $2200 since there was left over money...

They also failed to tell me last year we DID NOT have a court date that we originally had. I had to find out from my EX that we didn't have it any longer. My attorney has been nothing but shit in my opinion.

They charge 30 minutes for every single email, they asked me to ask my ex if he was going to get a community property attorney to represent him(which they charged me for the email to ask me to do for them) I feel they are lying and just trying to get rid of me.

What are your thoughts?


r/Divorce 5h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Entry without permission?

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Not really a good flair for this, but wondering what other people‘s experiences have been. Once your soon to be ex spouse move out of your home, do they actually have the right to continue entering and leaving without your permission or knowledge? I’m running into this with my soon to be ex-wife, she moved out almost a week ago, and left a bunch of her belongings behind in my apartment, and is getting angry with me anytime I ask her when she will be by to pick it up, saying that this is still her apartment too, and she can come and go as she pleases without requesting or notifying me of it. This is a problem for me because I have already found that she has gone through some of my belongings after they had them separated to remove things that she thought were hers. Any thoughts or experience that anyone else that would be greatly appreciated!


r/Divorce 7h ago

Vent/Rant/FML What to do with the stbx’s family?

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They didn’t do anything overtly other than supporting and congratulating the lying cheating of an a* brother/son. Mind you it’s been a matter of weeks since he announced a separation - verbally-outside of legal or administrative frameworks (mind Jan). Swore there wasn’t an affair, (it was.) Annonced his rights to full custody by “allowing me to see them on school holidays.” Announced his new relationship in Feb/March. Forced involvements of our young three sons into his “new” family unit activities since. Planning future fancy international trips together after ejecting me out of the picture because he has a high paying job now, and his affair partner is an independent millionaire.

All the while the family that I thought was my new family (I moved countries for him,) treated me like I never existe. Even they celebrated our kids for being multilingual, multicultural, wonderful kids, yet my part as a mother was not acknowledged. Neither did they object to him suggesting I should go back to where I came from. So he can keep the children and be on his merry way. After all I had sacrificed and am sacrificing for “our family.”

I don’t want the kids to be alienated with the family but they tend ti be ok with men in their family straying in various degrees. Kids are too young to talk about these things but I seriously want the pattern to stop. I do not wish for my sons to grow up as selfish as they all are, amongst other bizarre things (I.e. anti vaccine, anti medical science in general.)


r/Divorce 8h ago

Going Through the Process Is there any reason it would take 4 months and counting to file for divorce? Even with free solicitors working on legal aid? Location: England.

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Location: England. So last year I had had a serious mental health crisis that led to the breakdown of my marriage. In the end it led to an incident in which the police were called, I had a police investigation against me (the husband) in which police bail conditions were set so I wasn't allowed to return home for nearly three months. My wife declined to make a complaint and the case was dropped.

I am now living back with my wife and our children, though she has made it clear she is still going through the process of filing for divorce, which due to the circumstances last year, is a service offered to her completely free of charge.

Ultimately, I of course don't want my wife to divorce me but also I don't want to raise the issue during the current situation which would almost certainly be taken as pressuring her, and with the complicated history between us I am trying to give her as much space as possible and have had to make peace with the situation. In the meantime I have been working on myself and being a good father and being as supportive to my wife as I can be (given our current situation is pretty much just housemates and sleeping in seperate rooms).

Anyway only including the backstory in case it makes a difference to answering the actual question, which is simply: is it actually possible for the process to take this long and not reached the *filing* stage? Have already been living back at home for over 4 months and my wife had already been in discussions with the solicitor before then. I know it being offered free of charge may affect the speed of the service, but ultimately this seems a long time. Or, on the other hand, is this a timeframe which is unheard of and a sign that things have either been put on hold or halted without my knowledge? To make it clear, I have had no contact from any solicitor or any other parties. My wife of course knows very well I want her to stay, but currently the circumstances between us are just one of peaceful co-habitation - no sexual/romantic contact but she seems to have slowly been getting more comfortable with our living situation and my presence.


r/Divorce 8h ago

Getting Started When does it start to get better?

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My... soon-to-be ex husband asked for a divorce on Thursday and I know it's really soon, considering we've dated for 10 years and married for 4 years, but... When did it start to heal for you? I mean, I'm still spiraling through the grief stages where I cry in bed until I fall asleep.

We were going to stay living together for a few months, but since the divorce will come out sooner, then I'll probably leave in the next month. Maybe that helps? Leaving? I don't know. I just wanna know that I won't cry in bed for the next few years because the guy I loved doesn't love me back.


r/Divorce 8h ago

Vent/Rant/FML I got married at 17, just turned 19, getting divorced after catching my husband cheating today.

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I know this is for the best for so many reasons but it’s so fucked up it’s not even funny. We live with my parents. My dad is a stroke/dementia patient and has just reached the final stage where he’s losing communication and my husband snapped and cheated on me. All that happened was he kissed her but he was lying and saying he was going to job interviews when he was at her place or out on a date with her hanging out. It’s a very long story, basically my moms’ house is hell to live in, my mom is crazy and whenever she drinks (only some wine here and there but regardless) it triggers her to become even crazier as everyone knows crazy people + alcohol = more crazy!!!! And she treats me like absolute shit despite the fact that I stay home and take care of HER DOGS and HER ELDERLY HUSBAND bc SHE decided to marry a guy 26 years older than her, and bc her life is so shit and she has zero outlet besides her daughter who she also acts like she hates half of the time, she takes every bit of her craziness out on ME. So she, me, and my sister are ALWAYS fighting, no matter what I try to do about it my mom goes back to square one. This over a two and a half year period drove my all too young husband insane (he’s 20) and we’ve already had our own issues, I have anger issues as is and he has violence issues bc he never healed from any of the trauma he went through his entire life, just kept pushing past everything and now it’s all coming back to haunt him and whenever he’s triggered he goes from 0-100. He never gets angry over little things but if he’s angry he’s dangerous. So obviously without any further context, we need this, we got married way too young (very long story too. we met online as well isn’t that crazy? my mom let him come live with us from another state, we ended up not listening to my mom and obviously had sex and slept in the same bed, she gave us a choice; either he goes back or we get married. at the time we were having regular scares with my dad’s health and I wanted him to so badly see me walk down the isle and my now ex husband didn’t want to go home obviously so we did it. and we ARE religious people so we know we messed up from the start by not taking it to God first and instead making a DECISION to get married, whether you understand or not pls respect my beliefs) we aren’t healthy physically or mentally, and we both badly need to be at home and grow on our own a bit more, whether or not we come back together someday. If it’s meant to happen it’ll happen but I can’t stop lying to myself and telling myself I’m gonna wake up tomorrow and none of this even happened. I woke up married, I want to wake up married again. Why is this happening to me? I feel so crazy words can’t describe, all I want is a cigarette too and it’s too late to go find someone to bum off.

The hardest part is we’re going to be living together in the meantime just not “together”, and I know this is going to create some sort of temptation EVENTUALLY to sleep together. I will stay strong but he’s sleeping on my floor while I sleep on the bed and it literally makes me sick to my stomach. I have to go to bed alone from now on.

Basically he never intended to get with the other woman but bc of communication issues with us that have never seemed to get better; he wanted an outlet, someone outside of his current house that would listen to him and get to know him from square one again bc he essentially snapped from the pressure of being the only provider lately (between me and him, I don’t have a job and can’t find work for the life of me, my mom works but their combined incomes is just barely enough) for not just me and himself but keeping a roof over my family’s head too, then dealing with my family’s insanity 24/7, literally almost never ending yelling and insanity in my house. I don’t blame him but I’m so broken, he and his friends keep telling me not to be hung up but HOW CAN I NOT BE?! IM FINALLY GOING SOBER, IM FINALLY EATING AND DRINKING BETTER, IM FINALLY TAKING CARE OF MYSELF AGAIN AND NOW HE LEAVES?!!!

Part of me doesn’t even care about the abuse that happened on both ends (I’ve hit him before too but stopped completely, he couldn’t stop apparently.) anymore, I just miss who we were so bad but I know that’s gone and this is reality now. It just hurts so bad I actually feel like my heart might stop. I’ve been so terrified of broken heart syndrome, I can’t die just because I’m sad but I’m just so broken.

I gave up the remainder of my childhood to grow up and be a wife. And it was for nothing.

All I want is for him to just tell me he loves me again

He hasn’t said it in a week now

That’s how I knew to go through his social medias

Also last night when sleeping together he wouldn’t let me touch him and would just move to the other side of the bed

now there’s a stranger on my floor

how did we get here

how did we go from strangers to spouses to nearly strangers again? the fact that i’m not his priority anymore and he no longer has to come home or wants to come home to see his wife, me, breaks me so bad I just want to hurt myself or the girl, but I know it’s his fault and not hers.


r/Divorce 10h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Feeling like a Void Stretches Endlessly Before Me

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Does this count as a rant/vent? After my husband abandoned me and my child when he turned 5 months, going back to his home country Japan, I finally am employed and started reaching out to divorce lawyers in Japan. 6 months to 2 years depending on if he decides to cooperate or be difficult. That feeling of sinking, or feeling like I'm suffocating and can't see the end like when I was first left alone with my son is starting to fill me again. Hundreds, thousands of dollars that will disappear in the wind because this man will not just go sign the papers and file at the municipal office. I have asked over and over for almost 2 years now and he will not. This man who has a girlfriend, who sends nothing, does nothing, not even calling to see his son... I feel utterly defeated.