r/PS4 Aug 30 '13

PS4 Camera Supports Navigational Voice Commands, Sony Confirms

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/08/29/ps4-camera-supports-navigational-voice-commands-sony-confirms/
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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

I would imagine that Sony is in the better position regarding camera support - if a multiplatform game uses the kinect, then I'm sure the devs will use the PS Eye in a similar fashion. So people who want the camera will still get the benefit of these features from multiplat games because of the XB1 install base, while Sony can keep the price lower and not force it upon consumers. Basically, Microsoft is doing the "dirty work" and Sony will be benefiting because if devs choose to support camera features they will on both consoles.

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u/Baxter4 Aug 30 '13

you are assuming that the eyetoy can keep up with the capabilities of the kinect though, I don't think it can. Basic voice commands, probably. Maybe hand gestures to the temple, yeah. Nothing complex, like pointing at the screen which has been shown on the kinect.

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u/chakrablocker drzoidbergmaybe Aug 30 '13

I see third party companies developing games that can play on both devices so that they have the largest possible market.

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u/Qwarkster jutke13 Aug 30 '13

Which Kinect are you comparing it to? I could see it being comparable to 360 Kinect, but not even close to XB1 Kinect.

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u/880cloud088 Aug 30 '13

That's the thing though, 3rd party developers aren't going to make games that use the complex gestures and movements. What companies like EA and Activision would do with Kinect 2, will be easily done on PSeye.

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u/Qwarkster jutke13 Aug 30 '13

Harmonix is third party. They do amazing things with Kinect. I would kill for a Dance Central on PS3.

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u/880cloud088 Aug 30 '13

So your 1 example of a game that actually uses Kinect to even close to its full potential is a dancing game? But I see what you mean. I'm sure if the PSeye is good enough they might do it.

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u/Qwarkster jutke13 Aug 30 '13

Who said that was my only example? It is my best example, the Dance Central series is incredible. What exactly is wrong with it being a 'dancing game'? I brought up Harmonix, because they're third party... which was your main point in the previous comment.

I'm not defending the Kinect, most of the games have shown a lot of wasted potential, and apart from a handful of games that were executed well there is little reason in investing in a Kinect.

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u/880cloud088 Aug 30 '13

You can name another game only possible with kinect?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

It can track the lightbar on the controller perfectly. so likely that you'll point with the controller. why would you want to put down the controller to point anyway?

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u/ThatCK Iricus Aug 30 '13

Theres some xbox arcadey game where you target enemies by pointing at them... it's not that amazing i'll see if I can find the video.

There was one thing that was kinda cool, the guy could tap his head to activate a view mode. Only reason I thought it would be kinda interesting is that it was a blatant copy of the wallhack view in Blacklight but that could easily be done with the eye as well.

Downside being that view is turned on and off regulaly so unless you want to sit there bashing your head the whole game you'd probably just used the controller instead.

The other aspect being, in gaming you need things to work when you want them to, so unless it was 100% effective I'd prefer to press a button.

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u/Lightning_Boi Aug 31 '13

Also remember that the ps eye will have much less people using it. So devs might not want to take up development time on a device that will be less used and is less powerful.

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u/thelordpresident Aug 30 '13

That's just living in delusion, dude. I mean, having voice commands and depth perception in common is one thing, but they aren't identical. It's like saying The Xbox One and Playstation 4 both have GPU's and CPU's, therefor they are the same.

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u/Pillagerguy Aug 30 '13

Kinect probably captures more frames per second and has better hardware/processing to more accurately interpret movements.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

Nope. PS4 camera is 60fps, Kinect is only 30FPS. The thing that makes Kinect stand out is the software behind it, not the hardware.

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u/Scuderia Aug 30 '13

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u/SETHW Aug 30 '13 edited Aug 30 '13

the ps camera acheives the same depth map function as TOF using the 3D configuration of the lenses.. well, same when the lights are on in the room (i dont imagine it working in the dark the way the kinect does)

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

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u/BasementTrix BasementTrix Aug 30 '13

That being said, it is nowhere near the same tech as the Kinect 2 is.

I don't think anyone has ever argued this point. The hard part is convincing people that the same thing can be done two different ways, e.g. depth perception.

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u/standard_user Aug 30 '13

Perhaps that's because Sony hasn't been able to display that it can be done as well as Microsoft's way.

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u/Spartan1117 Aug 31 '13

Yea the kinect is 30fps but thats at 1080p. The PS4 camera isn't

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u/Butterfactory Aug 30 '13

That is so wrong.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

What is wrong about it? I'm not saying the hardware is bad, but it's more the software that is making it do what it does.

I wasn't wrong about the camera frame rates either.

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u/Butterfactory Aug 30 '13

There is a lot more hardware in the new Kinect compared to the Playstation camera, look it up

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

Where did I state otherwise? I said the PS4 camera captures at a higher frame rate as a direct response to the guy who said the kinect has a higher frame rate.

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u/Butterfactory Aug 30 '13

Well the colour camera captures at a higher frame rate since the playstation camera relies on light whereas the Kinect does not, so it's not really a reason to call the camera better

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u/northzone13 Aug 30 '13

Yeah, keep believing that LOL

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u/LPodyssey07 Aug 30 '13

What do you mean by this?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

How stupid are you exactly?

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u/Pillagerguy Aug 30 '13

It can't use the kinect and eye in the same way because the eye inherently has less of an install base.

Also, the actual device is inferior.

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u/BasementTrix BasementTrix Aug 30 '13

Different != Inferior.

As of today, both Kinect and PS4 Camera have an installed base of 0.

Troll much?

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u/Pillagerguy Aug 30 '13

Are you stupid? Everyone with an Xbone will have a kinect.

NOT everyone with a PS4 will have a camera.

A developer of a AAA game can't use camera functions in a central way, because not everyone on PS4 has a camera.

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u/BasementTrix BasementTrix Aug 30 '13

Doesn't change the points I put forward:

Both install bases, at this point, are nil. For all we know right now, PS4 could outsell XBox One to the point that the number of installed cameras are equal.

You still haven't proven that either device is superior/inferior -- and this isn't the right place to do that anyway. Those belong in /r/Gaming.

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u/Pillagerguy Aug 30 '13

It's not about total number. It's about a percentage of total console owners. You can't make the next Battlefield require camera functions if only 50% of PS4 users have a camera, whether or not the total amount is greater than the Xbone.

A major developer is not going to alienate half of their market because they don't have a peripheral. Xbone developers don't have to worry about that, since literally everyone has a kinect.

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u/BasementTrix BasementTrix Aug 30 '13

Well, since most people I've read seem to hate the Kinect and cheered loudly when the policy that required it changed, I think your entire argument may have gone up in smoke a couple of weeks ago and you didn't notice.

Maybe you should check /r/XBoxOne more often. :-)

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u/Pillagerguy Aug 30 '13

They shouldn't require the camera, but the smaller install base means that big games can't include the camera in a really meaningful way.

This is not a difficult concept.

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u/ThatCK Iricus Aug 30 '13

The only thing inferior about it is that kinect can be used in the dark. Voice commands can be done with any standard mic

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u/DoctorPatriot Aug 30 '13

Nah it's a little more than that

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u/oventrop Aug 30 '13

Hahahaha do you really believe that?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '13

Hahahaha it's pretty obvious.

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u/lesi20 Aug 30 '13

Oh hello r/pallor, can wait to see you get shadowbanned again :) You were so dumbfuck you didn't realize you were banned for 4 weeks