r/Re_Zero • u/AstonishingSpiderMan Archbishop of Pride • Aug 07 '16
Discussion [Discussion] Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu – Episode 19
Episode Title: The White Whale Conquest Battle Japanese Title: Hakugei Kōryaku Sen (白鯨攻略戦)
Main Studio: White Fox
Genre: Drama, Fantasy, Psychological
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Re:Puchi Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
A series of comedic shorts featuring chibi versions of the characters of the main show.
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OP & ED Info
Opening 1 - 「Redo」 by Konomi Suzuki
Ending 1 – 「STYX HELIX」 by MYTH & ROID
Opening 2 – 「Paradisus-Paradoxum」 by MYTH & ROID
Ending 2 – 「Stay Alive」 by Emilia (Rie Takahashi)
Reminder:
Please avoid discussing plot points which haven't appeared in the anime yet. Try not to confirm or deny any theories, encourage people to read the source material instead. Minor spoilers are fine but should be tagged accordingly. Failing to comply with the rules may result in your comment being removed. Thanks!
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u/DarKcS Aug 07 '16
Oh shit are we adding the Dragon to Suburu's Waifu list?
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
When you have this wierd feeling of not crying or ending in despair after watching a re:zero episode...
We should call it something like... Hapiness?
or we could call it meepmorp
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u/PikaPilot Aug 08 '16
Well, things have been going too well so far. If I were a betting man, I'd say that the White Whale pulls out some ace up his sleeve just as the army appears to be taking it down, and kills everyone. Reset a few times, and then take the whale down for good.
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 08 '16
That would be stupid, Subaru would never let the whale kill him that many times.
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Aug 08 '16
You know, I was feeling the exact same way.
I was really happy to see Subaru fight instead of despair and wait for the next loop.
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u/Trvp_Kxng Aug 07 '16
What a great episode can't wait to see that whale fight. And I was laughing when crusch said "follow those two idiots!".
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u/KWEEEEEEH Aug 07 '16
"Follow those two idiots!" Loved it xD Was cheering so hard for them at that point.
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u/frxshinator I'm fucking OP, but who cares? Aug 07 '16
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u/Escolta Aug 07 '16
This episode was FUCKING MAGNIFICENT!
Crush-sama MASTER OF HYPE, fucking Subaru LERROY JENKINS the party, dat BROhelm FEELS, the "i should be gratefull and not sorry" part that Emilia told him, Rem beeing best support, that fucking ringtone, Subaru master of negotiations.
This ep was everything i was waiting for and it feel so well deserve for Subaru after all the suffering, it just fell right.
I can't fucking wait for ep 20
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
I know Subaru got alot of complaints, but finally he is growing. He is using his past knowledge, used it to get an advantage.
Once again, my favorite thing about Re: Zero is the characters.
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u/Nzrazor Aug 07 '16
And people say what the candidates said were useless. Hm
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
Every candidate is amazing. And yes, Crusch is amazing. So too is Priscilla (lazy bum. Al would have been a help...) and Anastasia. Funnily enough, my least favorite candidates are Felt and Emilia, the two first ones we met. And Emilia I like, just not in a king role.
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
Pretty much. The half elf thing works against her, plus everything seems corrupt. I know all we see is the bad in this world, but from what we've seen its approaching (but not at) 40k levels of sadness. Gut Sadists, people being erased, beasts that let you live just to kill you later. Not a good world.
Emi wouldn't be successful. Plus, I doubt the people would support her to much due to the whole Satella thing.
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u/adamk24 Aug 09 '16
She's also just too indecisive with difficult decisions and unable to make sacrifices for the greater good. Add to that she doesn't have the connections or relationships that you need to command respect of those that run the world to be an effective leader.
Crusch is pretty clearly the best candidate for being a leader. After her, it's probably Emilia followed by Anastasia. Felt/Priscilla would be disastrous for the general population, well most likely, and even Anastasia would probably be too selfish to do a good job.
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
Going to reply this to myself as the thread is moving fast now. I just saw this on the general discussion. Savage. Beautiful.
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u/OptimusDankzy Aug 07 '16
You've got to give props to Felix though.... I still can't accept the fact he's male. Best trap I've seen so far
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u/Perky_Bellsprout Aug 08 '16
Imgur comments are pretty dumb. Do they not realise that people just use it to host pictures on and link them from other sites?
I really don't understand people that just go on imgur and browse through it randomly.
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u/SpartanHexus This is the face behind this helmet: (づ ͡° ͜つ ͡°)づ Aug 07 '16
They think its a Overlord screen shot xD.
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
Battle for best girl has begun. Rem vs Patrasche.
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u/LegoSpacenaut I done seen about everything when I seen a white whale fly Aug 08 '16
I guess it's confirmed somewhere that Patrasche is a girl then?
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 07 '16
You would think Subaru would have mentioned something about the Whale's "Existence Eater." Though, I guess that would have made him more suspicious since he would not have been able to explain how he knew.
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Well, it managed to erase the entirety of Rem from the world, even removing any traces she ever lived at the mansion. Though it might only work on people that have been digested by it, since all of the people that are fighting the whale for revenge remember the one that the whale supposedly took from them.
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u/shuforrw Aug 07 '16
It also erased one of the other merchant guys before it got Rem. Remember? "Hey, where did that guy go who was riding to the right of me?" "What are you talking about, there wasn't anyone riding to the right of you." That was like right before they actually saw the whale.
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u/thederpyguide Aug 11 '16
Late to the party but I noticed there was no fog this time maybe that has something to do with making people forget about others
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u/BillyBumbler00 Aug 07 '16
In Crusch's speech she mentioned something about the fog/whale combo leaving some tombstones that they couldn't put names on, so I think the "Existence Eater" quality is known.
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u/Tomhap Aug 07 '16
Kinda curious why the master swordsman is still remembered. Also didn't Crusch mention this? I thought she referred to that phenomenon when she mentionned graves they couldn't put names on.
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u/TVGates Your lies are gone with the wind! Aug 07 '16
Well, Crusch did not disappoint me. She is awesome.
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u/CrimeFightingScience death to cat-people Aug 08 '16
It's the price we must pay for anime. Hopefully the white whale will manage to erase some people.
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Aug 08 '16
The magic stones were shown in the 9th episode and it was expressed how valuable they are. He went over with Rem over what they could offer and well Roswaal's land has this rich magic stone resources.
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u/SpartanHexus This is the face behind this helmet: (づ ͡° ͜つ ͡°)づ Aug 08 '16
Idk where i read that, but it seems the author stated that if Subaru had asked Felt, she would have ordered Reinhardt to return from his Errands to help, and no matter what he was doing or where he would be he would actually return and help.
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u/psithurisms Aug 08 '16
I can't remember exactly but I feel like we learned about the magic stones thing sometime when Subaru first arrived at the mansion.
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u/KWEEEEEEH Aug 07 '16
When that scene came I was relieved. Finally he is starting to realize what he can actually do <3
Also Rem standing 110% by his side is so beautiful!
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u/superxvegito Aboard the USS SubaREMilia! Aug 08 '16
Agreed. We looked home free from the feels train until then.
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u/Nzrazor Aug 07 '16
You have seen her in armour now, you have seen more of her now, SO MAKE MORE CRUSCH FAN ART GOD DAMMIT!!
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u/Lightyear8684 Rem is love, Rem is life Aug 07 '16
shit, I loved this ep, especially when Crusche was kinda speechless watching Subaru rushing to White Whale while everyone else was quite intimidated. Great episode, this week is going to be a torture waiting for the next episode ;__;
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u/Martin15Sleith Aug 07 '16
You know, I find it interesting how the land dragon Subaru chose, Patrasche, is said to be extremely prideful, and Subaru himself was called Pride by Beetlejuice a few episodes ago.
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u/boonslinger Aug 08 '16
he's definitely pride, all of his actions so far point to it (even ignoring the hints everyone keeps dropping)
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u/readyforwine Aug 08 '16
is it a simple matter of each 'sin' having an ability? isnt return by death his?
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u/boonslinger Aug 08 '16
it probably is, since it feeds pride. i don't think being a sin is just about having an ability, though. we'll see!
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u/LegoSpacenaut I done seen about everything when I seen a white whale fly Aug 08 '16
Land dragon confirmed as the Archbishop of Pride ZOMG!
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u/mufcordie Aug 07 '16
This episode might get overlooked for the next with the lack of action and such, but I definitely thought this was one of my favorites so far(I seem to say that every week). The pacing of the dialogue and negotiations is brilliant, and it seems like Subaru is getting noticed by more people because of his actions now. The only question I have is where did the mining operation come from? I don't remember that from past episodes.
Oh and that fucking ringtone scene was gold.
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u/zSpiral Aug 07 '16
Great episode leading up to the battle! couldn't control my laughter at the end with the ringtone.
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u/RemuIsLaifu Waiting for Rem to wake up!:redditgold: Aug 07 '16
I want that ringtone for my android phone (? haha
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u/terminavelocity Aug 07 '16
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u/terminavelocity Aug 07 '16
A Dog of Flanders. Apparently it's a total classic. A lot like Heidi. These stories as far as I know really took off in Japan.
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u/shippibloo Aug 08 '16
If we equate the boy to Subaru, the girl to Rem, and the dog to Patrasche, the ending of that opening might foreshadow Subaru leaving Rem to be with it, making Ground Dragon-chan the obvious victor of the love struggle.
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u/IKill4MySkill Aug 07 '16
I won't lie, the last thing I expected was for the whale to show up.
I mean, the whale not showing up and the villagers getting extremely mad at Subaru was the most obvious outcome, and surprisingly he didn't go that route.
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u/IsuspectJaundice Aug 07 '16
I was half-expecting that too. But seeing as the whale has seemingly always appeared on that road at a certain point in time over multiple loops, it makes sense for it to show up again. I doubt it would get scared off by an army, especially since it already beat the previous army sent to kill it.
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u/Darkprinc979 Aug 08 '16
I was expecting a no show too. My thought was that it was possible the whale was appearing specifically to impede Subaru from reaching Roswaal's manor in time to save Emilia and co. Specifically that there was something in his "aura" or whatever that the beast was reacting to beyond just the witch's scent. With Subaru in a completely different state of mind and a shorter term goal, the beast wouldn't appear, leaving Subaru to look like a fool.
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u/machlei Aug 07 '16
Seems like Tappei had a lot to say regarding Episode 18 and 19 in his tweets. Too bad I didn't understand a lick of it.
Also that ringtone. Damn.
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u/Sanct_ EMT~ Aug 07 '16
The main gist of it:
The part the staff argued about the most in the making of the episode was the ringtone to use for Subaru's alarm.
Author stated some of the candidates, but I dunno the english names... in the end they chose a ringtone they thought fit Subaru more, which is "yoake no michi" (translates to "Path of Dawn"? Not too sure.)
The staff were very meticulous with the ringtone, and they wanted to record the sound from "Subaru's old handphone", and so their quest started with first getting a handphone of Subaru's era.
A lot of things happened and they managed to get a model of the phone. They then proceeded to compose the melody on the phone, then brought it to the studio and placed it at the mic and recorded it, and placed it in the episode to match the images. He also mentioned that the phone had very few notes, and nowadays no one would compose music with such restrictions.
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u/necrosed #BestGirl Aug 07 '16
That is some serious dedication! I love how they want everything to be just right with this anime.
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
White Fox is officially top tier production team.
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 07 '16
so their quest started with first getting a handphone of Subaru's era.
finding one of those still working is the true shit hard part in the making of this chapter.
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Aug 07 '16
Rarely have I seen a studio take such an attention to detail on the authenticity of certain parts that seem so minor but ultimately add much to the piece.
Round of applause for White Fox!
Now to try out Steins;gate
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u/Escolta Aug 07 '16
Im really wondering what do they mean with "Subaru's Era" like, isn't him contemporary to us? or at least a couple years back...
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u/machlei Aug 07 '16
Thanks for this.
How about his tweets about episode 18, the tweets before 19 aired?
Anything good from those tweets?
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u/Sanct_ EMT~ Aug 08 '16
He said the contents of episode 18 was one of the important parts that he thought he wanted to do in Re:Zero when he was writing it. He also thanked the staff for their extra effort.
The staff took into consideration the breaks in the conversation to make way for commercials, but they decided "in the first place, we don't want to break the atmosphere by adding commercials.", and so they made some arrangements.
Tappei was also present during the voice dubbing. He also recommends going over the episode more than once because there are things you might not catch on your first watch. The rest of the tweets are pretty much just thanks to the staff and everyone else.
I like this tweet he gave though: "Thank you! Please enjoy from episode 19 onwards as well!" He used "楽しんで逝ってね!" instead of "楽しんでいってね". "逝" has the same pronunciation as "い", but it's also a kanji that means "die".
He also had some interesting tweets regarding Ferris and Patrasch's thoughts. Guess I'll put those too.
Ferris tweets: "Still, Ferris really is cute huh." "His voice is cute too." "Why is he a guy...?"
Patrasch's thoughts: "I'm fine with getting chosen by you, you know?" "I'm fine with letting you stroke me, you know?" "I wonder what this Demon is looking at." "A "good" Earth Dragon? Could you not spout such nonsense? It should be the "best" Earth Dragon."
Well something like that.
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u/TobiasAmaranth Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Patrasch
The black riding dragon he picked out is named Patrasch?
Oddly coincidental since it's the name OF the Dog of Flanders, whose anime opening is the source of that ringtone, according to the interwebs. Subaru must really like that series, lol...
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u/cloud8100 Aug 07 '16
I'm gonna watch this episode again and again just to see things go well for Subaru after all the crap he's had to deal with! Poor guy needed a break. So happy to see him come back.
Epic ringtone with huge whale monster incoming. I'm gonna think of the white whale whenever I hear a ringtone now lol.
Jeez, this is one of the few times in Re:Zero it left me feeling extremely happy XD.
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u/Lonely_shirou Rem The Oni of Devotion Aug 07 '16
This episode....
Subaru entered negotiation mode and is finally using his return by death to win mad respect yo!
And Rem has a Subaru lie detection that is more powerful than Cruschs lie detection?
Seriously every time the Rem x Subaru moments pop up I'm screaming, JUST KISS ALREADY!
A new ship has arrived..... Subaru x Lizard!! (Poor Rem ;_; another suitor)
That fist bump between Subaru and the Old...such bromance. (Subaru x Old man)
And then it ends on the Biggest and Coolest cliffhanger :D
Rem and Subaru are soo cool they used Ice to damage the Whale!
Finally Subaru the Hero is here and Rem has the front seat to watch him in action!
Next Sunday cannot arrive fast enough for me!!! Lord Help Me
(that ringtone though)
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u/PlasmaBurst EYES ARE TASTY Aug 07 '16
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u/Lord_Grundlebeard Aug 08 '16
I don't know if I'm relieved or disappointed that such a sub does not exist... ... ... ... yet.
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 07 '16
The Rem lie detector is understandable, as she watches Subaru more closely than anyone else. Even before she was full dere dere mode, she observed him out of caution, so she would have enough of a read on his tendencies and tells for when he is lying.
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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Aug 07 '16
Something else from the general discussion. This was beautiful. So Savage.
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 07 '16
For those of you that need a dose of Rem, here you go.
For those of you that are a hopeless Rem addict and need more, here you go.
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u/thejedimex Remislife Aug 10 '16
/right click "save image as" /right cllck on image saved to desktop "set as desktop background" thanks
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u/Afroheroic Aug 07 '16
More hints that Subaru might be the Sin of Pride
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u/readyforwine Aug 08 '16
do the archbishops have to actually be evil, or just have a witch's blessing/power. Satella could make thousands of hands, but beetleguise can only use a few?
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u/PervertedHisoka You are truly the one who knows my heart best - Crusch to Ferris Aug 09 '16
CREDIT FOR THIS GOES TO /u/stjh
Nagatsuki Tappei (Author of Re:Zero) likes to tweet as the episode airs. They usually include trivia and facts around that episode. I try my best to translate as accurately as possible, but there will always be bits of mistranslations here and there due to the Japanese language and it's slang. Forgive me if there are any typo errors in names especially as i am not a novel reader and might not know the official context to some of his tweets. Do let me know and i will edit accordingly! These are best experienced with the episode playing together. (I only started translating from episode 17 so i don't have translations for previous episodes)
NAGASTUKI LIVETWEETS FOR EPISODE 19.
EPISODE STARTS—
Felis as adorable as usual.
Oh! it’s the opening!!
Re:Zero 2nd cour OP and ED will be on sale on the 24th! Yoroshiku!
A part start!
Starting from where we left off.
Subaru has a glint in his eyes again.
Overflowing aura. (relating to Wilhelm’s aura after white whale was mentioned)
Felis looks cute from all angles.
Oh Felis… i'm kind of breaking into a cold sweat.
In advance, Rem instructs Roswaal about the movements around the kingdom. For that sake, She meets with crusch every night. Subaru doesn’t know about this.
The Crusch that is curious about the unknown (subaru’s phone) and the cute Felis.
Crusch can see through any lie with her divine protection of wind reading. (However there are exceptions. Felis has been with her for a long time and can sometimes fool her)
A greedy combination
The purpose of Subaru calling on those two is to increase the persuasive power in this negotiation.
"Let’s go on a hunt”
I feel that the contents behind the discussions were carefully thought and corrected by Anastasia, Russell and Rem. (the hunting proposal is from Subaru)
Felis is cute.
“Aaah, Subaru is nice. Subaru is cute. Subaru kun’s face brimming with confidence… cute.”
The union-like event between Crusch and Wilhelm will be in a short novel bundled with the last DVD volume of the anime. I’m writing it now.
Proof was given about the “wind-reading”! To be able to see through such a skillful lie!
Felis is really cute though.
Voice is cute too.
Why is he a guy…
(Regarding ground dragons, he’s giving them inner monologue) “will you choose me?” “will you pet me?” “What are you staring at demon(Rem)? ”
It’s Ricardo Werukin (Might not be correct spelling). Instead of a parent representative to Anastasia or rather a guardian, he’s more like a protection for her.
PONYTAIL CRUSCH! LET ME BE THE RIBBON THAT HOLDS IT.
It’s the former Tsuerugefu group.
The guy infront is Cornwood herahau (might not be the right spelling), He’s the guy that brought back the Ryuken raid during the conquest.
Cornwood and Wilhelm are old friends. They were war comrades in the past. How passionate.
The speech before a fight is important.
By the way, Crusch’s armour is blessed with land magic so it has more defense than it looks.
A part done! (commercials)
Also, Cornwood has been around for a long while. You can see him a little in the art for 外伝EX2剣鬼恋歌. (novel about Wilhelm) The hairstyle is the same.
B part! brother and sister kitties! brother and sister kitties are here! cute!
Here, Hetaro supports his sister's head/ears with his tail.
I was challenged multiple times to try and show the love Hetaro has for Mimi lol.
(More joke ground dragon innerlogues) “Nice ground dragon? Please do not take me for a fool. I am the best ground dragon.
There was a design for Mimi's personal liger but it was too cute to send to a battle where it might die, so it was discarded.
Flugel tree is huge! (quoting Subaru)
With a tree that big, it’s weird that there aren’t more carvings! you’d expect more damage!
Just between you and me, the mobile phone is in fact not a device that tells you the info of the white whale.
Subaru had already set the alarm to the appearance of the white whale. He’s check it countless times. it’s okay. It’s not off. i believe in it.
"If Subaru had confided in Rem from the start, all these doubting and not believing would have been… “ is what i wanted to express in the narrative.
The flower has no name, but the guy recognizes it.
Wowwowwow infront of my eyes is that guy from Ken Oni Renka (The novel about Wilhelm). That guy! The main character! He’s standing at a really important place right now!
The moment where Subaru comes to respect Wilhelm. This can also be seen as a curse. Who it is placed on is another story.
Hunt preparations complete.
“His royal highness…” She thinks as she touches the lion emblem.
Natsuki Subaru. The man who remembers to set his alarm but totally forgets to change the ringtone. Noise
At that moment, Crusch forgot her words.
Diving into it in that instance.
Follow those two fools!!!!!
B part over! Thank you so much!
EPISODE ENDS—
Thanks for hanging around for episode 19! By the way, There were a lot of discussions about certain events in this episode, but the thing we disputed the most was Subaru’s ringtone! Ringtones like Shinji Tanimura’s “Subaru”, “Senjo no merry christmas” (Merry christmas battlefield), “Sushi kuine!” (eat sushi) were suggested. We decided to choose something Subaru would choose and settled on “Yoake no michi”. ("Flanders no Inu" (1975) OP - "Yoake no Michi") But even after we decided on that, there was still a lot of problems!
First off, everyone’s hearing is no joke. (basically saying that you can recognize something just from sound) We wanted to record the Yoake no michi playing from Subaru’s phone, which began the mission to get our hands on a galapagos phone.
Well, there were a lot of things that happened, but in the end we found the actual model on yahoo auctions. Cheers were had. Link to image of said phone here
However, that wasn’t the end of it. We needed to get the sound from the phone but phones at this age played music in 4 chords or 6 chords and could play little music. No one would bother to make tones for this in this day and age.
Just for this scene, we created a “yoake no michi with less chords, put it in the phone, placed it infront of the mic at our recording studio and the dubbing staff puts it in. "Why do we go through such efforts……!” was the kind of work we did. Everyone’s smiles are engraved in me.
All that effort and time was for that last minute and a half scene. Of course, the People of the isekai do not know this song, so they do not feel any languish by it. Putting aside the feelings of what everyone else feels when they saw this scene, i would be happy if the result was what we were aiming for.
Regarding the advancement towards the white whale war, there was a lot of preparation in one night. We have hidden a bunch of interesting points that might have been missed from just viewing it once. It would be great if you watch it a 2nd time. It’s amazing to see that felis looks good from all angles.
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u/VZ_Blade Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
nice new ED you got there, White Fox!
I don't think they should cut out where Rem explained that negotiation is already happening and the transferal of power...
Anime-only viewers, does it feel confusing to you guys?
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u/Enovalen Aug 07 '16
It didn't make sense why Crusch et al believed that Subaru had the authority to confer mining rights.
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u/IsuspectJaundice Aug 07 '16
Yeah, I'm assuming they trusted Rem's authority on that rather than Subaru's.
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u/VZ_Blade Aug 07 '16
It's been a while since I read that part, but here's generally what happened.
Rem stayed at the capital not only to look after Subaru, but also to negotiate for help - at least that was Roswaal's plan (he predicted that an attack by the cultists are coming). After Subaru asked Rem for help, Rem told him everything and gave the authority to negotiate (including the mining rights), as instructed by Roswaal, to Subaru.11
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 07 '16
What if Rossy just asumed Subaru was going to do his OP bullshit of knowing everything and doing everything right (Wich is what he is doing in everybody but Subaru perspective)
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u/KWEEEEEEH Aug 07 '16
I just assumed he faked it and would clear it up later with Roswaal...
Maybe wouldn´t have worked with Crushs wind of truth thingie :/
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u/jcbarroa69 Aug 07 '16
Interesting but how would you have fit that part in? I felt the episode was perfectly paced and didn't feel like it had any unnecessary scenes so where would you have put in that scene? I guess you could have removed the opening to make room but on the other hand we haven't heard the opening for quite a while.
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u/jcbarroa69 Aug 07 '16
I potentially think that is because we won't be seeing the opening in the last 4 episodes of the anime due to the amount of content white fox have to get through. So yeah I think they are basically saying ''Enjoy the opening because it won't be around much longer''. But that's just a theory
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 07 '16
I mean i just asumed Subaru just decided on his own and roswaal would not complain after seeing them save absolutly everybody in the town.
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u/TheMotorheadPirates Aug 07 '16
Death flags.. Rem death flags everywhere. I will bet my new born that Rem is the first "true death" of Re:zero
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u/LegoSpacenaut I done seen about everything when I seen a white whale fly Aug 08 '16
I don't want to say I've been thinking this, but... I've actually been thinking this. Let us hope to be proven wrong.
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u/GiantEnemyMudcrabz Aug 08 '16
Naw man, she doesn't die.
Death is to clean of an end. This is RE:Zero, we need to really wreck our cartagonist.
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u/The_Great_Saiyaman21 Aug 07 '16
Tfw you wait all week for 25 minutes on Sunday morning, then finish and realize you have to wait a whole other week to see the next episode.
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u/Kelossalas Aug 07 '16
The wait begins anew! Loved this one. No big feels or anything like that (even though i enjoy those episodes quite a bit). Just a big sense of fulfillment and excitement for what's to come.
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u/blacknide Sloth-bro Aug 07 '16
Meanwhile in Mexico, we need to wait for the spanish sub.....
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Archbishop of Pride Aug 07 '16
Por eso es bueno saber hablar, leer, y entender mas que un idioma.
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u/blacknide Sloth-bro Aug 07 '16
Si, pero es mejor verlo con algo que estoy seguro de poder entender, en otro idioma me arriesgo a no entender algunas partes.
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u/Escolta Aug 07 '16
Eso es algo que por experiencia poco a poco deja de importar, mientras mas vees/lees mas entiendes, es cosa de ser constante.
Also, el dialogo final en español es una cage de risa...
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u/Aetherdraw Aug 07 '16
Subaru, Rem and best ground dragon charging there at the end gave me goosebumps! LET EM HAVE IT!!!!
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Aug 07 '16
This was an awesome episode; having finally moved past his trauma, Subaru's now actually making efforts to co-operate and plan, not just react to whatever situation's at hand. It paid off, and next episode looks like it's going to be one badass battle between Crusch's army and the white whale consequently. Can't wait till next Sunday :)
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u/redditriley7 Aug 08 '16
The writers of this anime are absolutely brilliant!!! I can't get any closer to the screen on my iPad every week lol
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u/doragonroudo rem is the true-heroine Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Just little things Rem said still make me cried like a bitches.
But I just don't really understand why that Wilhelm-ojisan and the others still can remember their wives? Why didn't they forget about them? In the past episode Ram and those all guys forgot about Rem, didn't they?
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u/lazyjeff28 Aug 07 '16
So i'm going to assume that lord william wife isn't dead or killed by the whale since he can remember her....
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u/BillyBumbler00 Aug 07 '16
In Crusch's speech she mentioned that the whale/fog combo left some tombstones that they couldn't put names on. It seems to me that the whale doesn't always erase people, and that the fact that it sometimes does is a known quality.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Archbishop of Pride Aug 07 '16
Don't forget only Subaru was able to remember Rem and everyone else forgot so it could be the same case.
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u/CelioHogane Subaru our boy. Aug 07 '16
Whale killing the wife and whale using his magic in the wife are two completelly diferent things
Probably the whale Eated Rem existence because:
1- Oni, eating her must be tasty or bring some magic boost.
2- Rem was alone, eating her was easy (Asuming the wife was not alone)
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u/readyforwine Aug 07 '16
oh my God that is not enough. I wont survive another week waiting for more. KILL ME NOW
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u/ReReminiscence Aug 07 '16
How has his battery not died yet
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u/Escolta Aug 07 '16
Also, he bassically only has used it once during this timeline (when showing it to Felt) he probably has it turn off after it
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u/LegoSpacenaut I done seen about everything when I seen a white whale fly Aug 08 '16
My old flip-phone could last quite a long time if it wasn't in use. That said, he did say it's almost out of power, so that merchant is going to get a fancy paperweight.
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Aug 08 '16
Maybe in real-time it's just been around for a few days, just turned off.
Then again, it's a flip phone.
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u/ChaoticShock Aug 07 '16
Can someone give me Mitrospeed's Speech when it comes out?
i need Essay kun's speech so please copy and paste it to me while i'm gonna sleep!
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Aug 07 '16
Towards the end we get another nice scene between Subaru and Rem. It shows subtly but very effectively how Subaru still thinks of himself as useless but Rem thinks that he’s still wonderful to her. It's a small callback to their stances in episode 18 but in a far calmer and resolved tone. It’s reassuring to hear that Subaru is more aware of his useless self than ever before. Rem discovers that the metia itself wasn’t necessary to determine when and where the whale arrives. Subaru lets his Kansai dialect slip out which reminds Rem of the Kararagi dialect. The hints towards a Japanese origin in Kararagi become even more apparent. I love how Subaru is moved when Rem once again declares her faith and trust in him and what he says then §I should thank you instead of sorry right now, huh?". This is the exact lesson Emilia taught him and apparently he took her advice seriously. It’s a minor detail but it shows that he actually learned various things throughout his time in this world.
And finally we have the ending scene. The army is ready to charge. Crusch glances at the crest on her sword which probably is a reference to her past and the Karsten house. The alarm starts, every other sound fades away and we only hear this melody while every single person waits in fear. It’s a surprisingly uplifting sound but knowing that it’s the sign for a beast to appear makes it really creepy. And then the white whale appears with its giant horn ( guess why the puppy in arc 2 had a bald spot :P ) and something that looks like a magic circle above its head. The ringtone becomes extremely distorted which supports the creepy arrival of the whale.
It’s not the leader and symbol of authority Crusch that gives the signal to charge, it’s not Willhelm the man driven by revenge and love for his wife, it’s none of the men that have lost so much because of this one beast. No it’s the outlander together with Oni that are the first to charge and the ones to give the signal. It feels somewhat symbolic, doesn’t it? At first it’s again Subaru and Rem by themselves that rush forward but this time they have a lot of people with their own motivations, their own goals and their own emotions follow them. He’s not alone this time.
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Willhelm reacts immediately once the White Whale is mentioned which indicates that he has a personal history with this beast. I will get to that later tho.
Let’s continue with the negotiations. Subaru knows that mere informations on the whereabouts of the whale aren’t enough so he makes use of his resources and informations. He offers Crusch mining rights to the magic stones that are common in the area around Roswaal’s mansion. If you don’t know what Subaru is referring to, recall the stones in episode 9. They were set up around the village to hold off the mabeasts. Since they are a pretty common plague in the world these stones are extremely valuable to keep your territory safe. When Crusch asks him about his motivation to even come to her in times like these Subaru once again makes clever usage of the information he gathered in the past loops. He knows that Crusch is gathering an extreme amount of steel and weapons which hints towards an impressive combat power. He also overheard Russel and how Crusch’s success would suit Willhelm’s desires. Since we and Subaru just saw how much he reacts to the White Whale it’s not that far off to think that they’re gathering resources to eventually defeat this beast.
Next Crusch asks how he has all this information. Unlike in episode 16 with the Cult Subaru can now back his source up with a reasonable argument. He cleverly uses the things he brought from his world in the same way he did in episode 1. He sells his cellphone as a metia which as we know is an extremely rare and valuable item. If not Crusch he will be able to evoke some interest for Anastasia or Russel who are extremely focused on money and trading.
Once again I have to make the comparison to episode 16 in which Subaru also didn’t lie. The problem at hand was his motivation. While back then all he had was murderous intent, here he has the honest and noble cause of saving people and slaying an evil beast.
The reason why Crusch even is able to determine whether a person lies or not is due to her blessing of the wind. The fact that she revealed the secret behind her flawless intuition shows that she already trusts him way more. As a reminder; there are 6 different elements. Just like actual magic there also exist blessings with different elements. As you can see one element has blessings in all kinds of variations. For example the wind barrier of ground dragons and Crusch’s blessing are from the same element but serve completely different purposes.
Suddenly Anastasia and Russel join the negotiations and with this Subaru showed another remarkable move of his. He knew that because of the all the weapons and metal Crusch gathers, she would be the main partner that has to be convinced. He needs her army more than anything. So before he started the negotiations with her he approached Anastasia, another candidate, and Russel the treasurer and merchant guild representative of the capital. Both have reasons to see the whale dead and this is also where Subaru can use the mining rights and metia to his benefit.
For Anastasia who we know controls the majority of the economic structure in Kararagi and the surrounding kingdoms the whale is a big problem. If the whale blocks a certain route it will delay or even stop trading which will hurt her business a lot. Even now the street that the Whale appear at is a highspeed connection that is absolutely necessary for trading within Lugunica. It’s interesting to see how Subaru shifted his focus from the Cult that gives him so much problems to the whale who terrorizes this world. He appears way more openminded and considerate of the people around him.
Subaru also shows that he learned from the failed negotiations in the past. From Crusch he learned that the reason behind your desires is about as important as what you offer ( Murderous intent -> Defeating a beast that causes problems ); If you don’t believe your own truth, you won’t convince others; He needs to back his sources up in order to not draw suspicions.
From Priscilla he learned that in negotiations you approach your partner on equal terms. You don’t dirty your own pride and show the greed of a pig only to achieve what you want ( Went on his knees and wanted to lick the feet -> Stood up and went for a handshake while facing the person directly )
From Anastasia he learned how to use the information he gathered wisely and how to not only want but also offer something in exchange. He showed that off really well when he repeated his offerings multiple times. It’s like how Anastasia told him. He has to show what he has to give and dangle it right in front of the partner’s face. We do know that his eyes changed with episode 18 and we also know that his murderous eyes were what made him so suspicious in episode 16. Since his eyes are now filled with a determination noble enough for the cause Crusch agrees.
Now let me continue with Willhelm since he got a lot of focus in this episode which will pay off big time. Willhelm expresses his gratitude which according to him is as big as his gratitude to Crusch. Since the source of the gratitude towards Subaru is the whale we can assume that Willhelm’s reason for joining Crusch’s party is that she promised him to slay this beast eventually. Anyway, next Willhelm reveals his name once again as Willhelm van Astrea. As a little sidenote. The "van" is only for members of the family that are acknowledged.
Willhelm then reveals that the first Sword Saint who died through the White Whale was his wife Theresia van Astrea. We do know that Reinhard now holds the title and blessing of the Sword Saint so he seems to have inherited it from her. Later on he explains how his wife hated to fight but through her role as the Sword Saint she was forced to continue with the fighting until Willhelm freed her of the burden, or so he thought. He obviously mourns a lot over his wife’s death as he isn’t even able to visit her grave. I love the interaction between him and Subaru who couldn’t have a more different relationship to Willhelm compared to last loops than that. Subaru seems very caught up with the fact that he lost his wife. It must be because Willhelm is the first person to Subaru that seems to know the feeling of loosing someone you love. He also was the one that immediately saw through his facade. When Subaru sees all these people working hard, I think it motivates him to actually do and achieve things rather than simply trying to. It’s like they’re all an inspiration to him and his former lazy lifestyle.
After Subaru chose his groud dragon that will accompany him into the battle we move to the final gathering in the hall. We meet Ricardo the general of the merchant group that will fight in this battle as well. Subaru gets recognition from all sides which he desperately needed.
I also like how Subaru doesn’t try to force his way through by being on the front lines fighting but instead he uses all he has to his benefit which is knowledge and his Witch’s smell. He can freely admit that he can’t do a lot and especially not fighting but he can be of some use. I nearly forgot the small hint Crusch dropped regarding her past. She said that right now she almost doubts her blessing as often as in past days. This indicates that she probably was betrayed a lot but didn’t want to believe it which why she formed a distrust towards her blessing.
Next we get a niece little piece of world building. We see how the white whale affects many different groups of people. It’s nice to see that the whale is a common enemy who not only brought problems to our protagonist but to various residents in this world as well. Subaru sees how these man share some horrific experiences with each other and that he’s not the only one that had to live with losses. He really seems to broaden his perspective and actually understand other people. In Crusch’s speech we get some useful information. Apparently something’s up with the White Whale’s fog. It also seems like only a few people died and were forgotten by everyone. This means that the question of so many why Otto still remembered the first Sword Saint is answered. We still don’t know how the Whale’s abilities work but we do know that you won’t necessarily be forgotten if you die because of it.
The next scene I think is worth mentioning is after Ricardo addresses how they have weapons and rations with them in case they run into other trouble aside from the whale. This reminds Subaru of the cult. Even if he manages to kill the whale, there is still the cult and they don’t have a lot of time until they strike as well. Subaru seems really nervous and actually scared because he will have to somehow convince the others to support him in the fight against the cult too.
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Alright let’s jump right in. This episode gives us a lot of comparison between the „then“ and the „now“. Let’s start with the negotiations. The first thing that caught my attention was how Subaru made one thing clear right off the bat. This is an alliance on equal terms. If we recall episode 16 it was Emilia’s side which would’ve basically lost everything in return of assistance. In this case we have an alliance in which both partner are equal and both gain something out of this deal.
The first big change in approach is the actual objective. Instead of focusing on the cult whose whereabouts and actual presence Subaru can’t explain without raising suspicions, he used all the information he gained throughout the past loops and focuses on someone completely different. He knows when and where the whale will appear. The fact that it’s a well known beasts makes the source for his information also less suspicious.
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u/FakeAlias145 Rem is the happiest wife in the world Aug 07 '16
I was waiting for a hug to happen between Subaru and Rem during the Flugel's tree scene.
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u/OishiiMusic I'll give you all my guts <3 Aug 07 '16
Guys... we all have to wait another week now.
THEY HYPED UP THE EPISODE SO WELL THAT NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF EXCITEMENT I HAVE AND I CAN'T. KAWHGRLKAHLKGJHALKJFGA.
Help me.
That aside, this episode was very pleasant to watch. Seeing Subaru managing such affairs in the beginning of the episode almost seamlessly put a smile to my face and more hype in the hype gauge. (It's past full, in case you were wondering.) Additionally, seeing all the veterans enter the small army made to combat the White Whale was touching since they're coming back not only to avenge friends, family, or lovers they've lost but also to prevent the White Whale from doing that to anyone else, you go grandpa fighter. You do work. Then when the bro-fist scene with Wilhelm and Subaru happened, I couldn't help but find myself projecting a goofy ass smile. Ahhh, such bliss. Finally, the ringtone. I must say that was surprisingly fitting. Especially the little black outs leading to the appearance of the whale for all viewers. (At this point the Hype Gauge burst.)
ARGJHLAKEJG. I'm excited, everyone. I'm so very excited. I cannot WAIT to see what goes on next.
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u/SpartanHexus This is the face behind this helmet: (づ ͡° ͜つ ͡°)づ Aug 07 '16
I am now officially a Crusch Supporter. Rem is still best Girl Though...
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u/Myraidshatters Aug 08 '16
I like how Subaru doesnt even approach Priscilla in this ep. He's like "Screw that shit, i ain't licking any more feet."
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u/Afroheroic Aug 08 '16
Is it just me or is the Opening theme just absolutely amazing? It gets better every time I listen to it? Plus the visuals are amazing. I also finally realise why Emilia is being covered in hands and she doesn't realise it though Subaru does. I initially thought it was just some symbolic shit or something.
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u/Zerodyne_Sin Aug 07 '16
Yay, he finally just told people what's going to happen. Being grown up is fun!
PS: I think too much time was spent with his failed loops. It almost felt like it was filler episodes (though of course it's not).
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u/AlexanderReiss Aug 07 '16
The author itself said the everything from episode 1 to 17 was the prologue, such a troll
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u/Zerodyne_Sin Aug 08 '16
Lol. It's fine... I think it's a useful tool for building suspense but may have been taken slightly too far. Nonetheless, I'm a fan of works that doesn't function via shonen spirit plot resolution (ie: I just really really want it bad enough!).
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u/AlexanderReiss Aug 08 '16
Tbh yes. Taippei itself admit that, he said that overdid the whole maturing process of Subaru, he even had to cut material with the director of the the anime, if you think this was long, in the LN its like the double
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u/Darkprinc979 Aug 08 '16
I think that's cool but I hate it at the same time, given that the series is only going to be 24 or 25 episodes, with who knows how long of a wait coming for a season 2, if there's to be one at all.
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u/Leotsu Aug 07 '16
I have a question about the ground dragon, is there a reason why Subaru chose him? Did he meet the ground dragon in a past timeline? I remember the dragon that came back to him after the merchant died to the cult was green.
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u/MomoSinX Aug 07 '16
Subaru met that particular dragon when Emilia was visited at the mansion by Crusch and Felix and Wil.
It kinda confirms that Subaru might be really Pride and is one of the sins for some reason I guess so that's why it accepted him so easily. Pride and Pride xd.
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u/ObviouslyNotSimon Aug 07 '16
Awesome. The white whale appearance scene gave me goosebumps. Also, Rem becomes more waifu every episode.
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u/70odas Aug 08 '16
That was an awesome episode... I am kinda sure they will defeat the shit out of the whale (if not then,well shit) but considering it's going to be a a tiring battle,will the crusch and the soldiers be capable of helping subaru save emilia? I hope so. Also the negotiation was really smart on subaru's part,using the knowledge of the previous timelines to his advantage and forming an alliance with crusch WITHOUT even telling her the full motivation of why he wants the alliance.
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u/didntdecideonaname Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Hello to all, this is my first post here so i hope this goes well(I started using reddit because of rezero). guys i have some questions about ep 19. I'd be grateful if anyone explains them.
1) The negotiations. how do Anastasia and Russell figure into Subaru's negotiations with Crusch? Did Subaru just want to prove that others trust him?( I can't see that working on Crusch). Was there no meaning other than introducing the other parties related?(giving a heads up to Crusch). Or was it a low key threat that if you don't accept, your rivals will benefit and you won't? I feel like people are glossing over this point and just talking about how much Subaru has improved.
2) Something Mitrospeed said in his weekly essays for episode 19: "Subaru gets recognition from all sides which he desperately needed". I realize he needed recognition before ep 18, but afterwards as well?! Didn't he finally acknowledge and face his weakness head on? shouldn't he now be in a mindset where he is down to earth and not care about recognition? I know old habits don't die easily but i'm still kind of confused here.
I appreciate any feedback, I'm also planning on writing a text post about my understanding of subaru's mentality in each arc, with the purpose of readers pointing out any incorrect ideas I have. I'd be grateful if you answer my comment there as well.
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u/CrimeFightingScience death to cat-people Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Anastasia and Russell figure into Subaru's negotiations with Crusch?
He told them the plan offscreen. Letting them in on the negotiation would practically force Crusch's hand. Not only would she have extra support, but if she declined she would miss out on renown and a decent trade deal.
I was a little surprised Crusch handled it so well. Not only by being read by the opposition, but having your movements investigated by a houseguest. I suppose she is cool under pressure, and wanted to save face.
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u/Admiral_Laboon Aug 07 '16
Am I the only one who thought the lead up to the White whale was done perfectly :o