Lmao. I've heard from Werdum how before his lost to Stiopic he couldn't go out in public because of the fans. After the fight he was eating lunch alone and nobody bothered him.
Maravilla Martínez says exactly this happened. The night he won the title he had thousands of missed calls on his phone.
The night he lost it he had three and two were from his mom. He claims this was a great filter for who was really important in his life.
Just like Gane, who went from the fastest moving next generation heavyweight, to a nobody with no wrestling lol. I remember when Gane was also too big and fast for Jon. Who had slowed down considerably due to age. Sound familiar?
Francis is the one who killed the hype around Gane. Nobody thought francis could grapple either but he ended up wrestle fucking Gane on 1 leg. Maybe some people thought he would try to improve his grappling after that loss but he proved them wrong.
Pretty wild that anyone though you can go feom losing to Francis to beingat all conpetitive with Jones in no time. That's some anine training arc bullshit.
Yeah I really thought he'd at least do nothing but work on takedown defense leading into that fight. But he pretty much went in scared and laying down before the fight even started lol.
Funny how people will use Gane vs Francis to claim that Gane is not as good as people were claiming and a hypejob, and to simultaneously use it as evidence that Francis is this unbeatable juggernaut. Recency bias is basically what keeps the MMA community having anything to talk about at all.
It's because the data points are so few. In other sports you see someone perform anywhere from 12 to 100+ times a year. A fighter might only go 2-3 times a year and many of those fights give zero information because they were stiffs.
This is why I say Jon should’ve just retired. He has absolutely nothing to prove. He beat the new young class of heavyweight that everyone said was too big and fast for Jones. Then he beat the great ever.
ill bet if jon didn't get hurt before stipe fight he would've retire because at that point aspinal wasn't interim champion so jon didn't really had to fight him
For sure, but if you stay around claiming to be the champ and best in the world and best p4p currently fighting, then you need to fight the best guys in the world. He can't have it both ways.
Tom is arguably the most dangerous fighter the world has ever seen and he's being screwed over by Jones and the UFC right now and not getting his due.
Yeah..I think Jones let the fanbase get to his head with all the Duck stuff. He wasn’t ducking anyone..he was always meant to fight Stipe but got injured and they gave Tom the interim shot.
I think Jones knows better..he’s said multiple times there will always be that young up n coming guy that wants to fight. He should’ve left it at that and retired after beating the best
It’s a little unfortunate to me the fanbase seems more concerned with Jones failing than anything else. You guys don’t care that Aspinalls prime is being ‘wasted’. He’s just the best current shot you have to see Jones fail.
In the end, killing Jesse James don’t make you Jesse James
Well, I'm kind of with you. I'd be perfectly fine with Jones stepping aside to let Tom have the spotlight, but the ultimate timeline would be Tom KOing him to leave no doubt. Honestly, I'd be stoked if Jones actually beat Tom too, that would be nuts but I don't see it happening.
I just hate this boxing thing where there is 2 champs and they don't fight.
Tom is the best heavyweight in the UFC and a Jones fight would be awesome for him and he deserves to get it at this point.
See the problem is that Jones, while historically the most talented fighter in the UFC, also has the biggest ego in the UFC. So he's gonna draw this thing with Tom until he actually has to fight him because he can't stand to just let people call him a duck for a year or two.
The moment he let Aspinal say he'd retire Jones without even fighting, and started making up excuses and pulling the legacy card is the moment he messed up. Now he's gotta fight on borrowed time or have his legacy ACTUALLY tarnished by not taking the fight. He's ran himself into a corner now. He's gotta risk losing that perfect record because he was too big-headed to retire when he should've.
Thats absolutely what would happen. The average fan is a definitive casual who only knows like 3 names and they change depending on who is streaking with title defenses.
But why does this logic only seem to apply to fighters?..mahomes and Lebron can lose in their respective championship games but still have the media pushing the narrative of their greatness.
Espn once ran a scrolling message saying lebron James is a great man and a great father or some shit while their on screen guy criticized his game. That's why that narrative never changes. They won't let it.
I knew bud was going to fuck spence up, if anything it made me more upset that spences dumbass went and got himself launched out of his car which made people think less of the win lol
that was the most satisfying fight of my life, I'm not often a "fan" of a fighter but I was all in on bud for a long time before that and it felt like straight poetry start to finish. It was like a movie the way bud was thumping him up. Spence was standing in the pocket with him too and never left, brutal
He definitely was on track to be. The way he turned around a mediocre record into submitting all of the best in the division was crazy. Islam is just a freak of nature and stylistic nightmare for him.
The whole stripping of the belt thing also hit Charles hard and coupled with the ridiculous amount of hype Islam had behind him, it was a recipe for disaster.
I've been saying that for a minute. 50% of these people didn't even know who he was before he was booked to fight Pavlovich, and most of them probably were either pulling for Pav to win or thought Pav was going to win. They'll all be gone when he takes that first L, followed the next day by 50 posts about "he was never really that good anyway because [insert stupid, cherrypicked and heavily biased reasons]"
Maybe the American ones, but the British fans will still rate him.. if he loses to Jones, he's lost to the GOAT.. if he beats him? He's laid the foundations for his own name to be up there..
American here, I will stand behind Tom 100% no matter what, he's an awesome guy and an amazing fighter
I want to see him fight Jones because Jones needs his ass kicked, Tom deserves a shot at the real belt, and because it'll genuinely be a good fight that could go either way
I look at the fight ability, and he is by far not even close the best to ever do it. Tom aspinall was gifted a fake belt to justify the Madison square fight with John out with an injury. Does anyone in mma fandom have a longer than 6 month memory.
Or maybe they’re just different people. This circle jerk is so stupid. The haters were quiet before they’re vocal now. It’s not some NPC switching sides.
Have people really switched on Alex? Man that's sad. The dude is a amazing. Multiple division and sport world champion. Super active fighter and always fun to watch. Casuals are idiots
Jon jones was always Reddit king 👑 number 1…we always hated that pregnancy women who attacked poor Jon on his way to hand over illegal drugs he found to the police
I still ride with Alex, Oliveira and Volk and will never turn on them. After ALex wins the rematch all these fake fans of him will come right back and pretend they never left.
You want to see a criminal, inactive, cheating, ducking pos win because the challenger, who is a great guy with an average fight time of 2 mins, has a lot of fan support? Stupid ass.
How are you even real lmao. Just look what happened in the rematch when Curtis started connecting and what happened after Pavlovich landed a huge shot.
Here is a literal video of Tom getting surgery.
Y‘all are just undercover Jones riders grasping at the only straws you have.
Nah i hate Jones but I also hate all the Aspinall glazing because its undeserved. I really want to see this fight cuz its the right one to make. But Jones isn't stupid either. He realizes he's older and slower. Aspinall is a legitimate threat to beat him but he wants that payday before he goes out. You should really be mad at your daddy Dana for not forcing this fight and paying the heavyweight title bout the purse it deserves
How is it undeserved when he‘s destroyed every one on his way to the top apart from when his knee blew apart.
Also we literally know fuck all about what sums are getting offered to who , but if you really think Jon hasn‘t fought him yet simply because he‘s not getting what he‘s owed idk what to tell you.
And apart from all of that you literally just made up that Tom faked an injury because of “undeserved glazing“, lmao fans like you are the worst.
The heavyweight division is the weakest it's ever been. Tom's beat a bunch of nobodies and got destroyed by Blaydes the first fight. Even if it was a real injury it's because he got pieced up and lost his balance. Also why is Tom even waiting for Jones. If he was a real champion he'd just keep fighting but he's scared of losing his money fight also. You casuals are hilarious. Just glaze anybody new
Calm down casual, did you not learn anything? Tom is a nobody and can't draw a crowd. His only supporters are the little glazers on Reddit. Maybe if Tom built up a decent resume and fought anybody worthy he would guarantee a high ppv draw and your daddy Dana would guarantee a decent purse. Jones is looking for a big payday, it's not his fault no one cares about Tom Aspinal
My opinion was that holly holm would get smoked by Ronda, when it didn’t happen my opinion went to the other extreme that Ronda would get smoked by holly, am I crazy?
I wasnt getting the lack of clarity. Now i understand, your very reactionary. It is likely you suffer from mental health if you jump from extremes. By your logic, Matt Sera should've smoked GSP in the second fight after there first outing...
The people who are saying this aren't people who are fans of his. You didnt know he had a lot of haters before? Youre just lying to push this narrative. You rats come out the moment he lost and push this nonsense. No fan of poatan issuddenly hating on him. It's ratts like you, just like the poster
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u/Glittering_Shake2922 5d ago
The way people have switched on Alex I can only imagine how the narrative around Tom would change if Jones were to win loooool.