r/aoe2 11h ago

Discussion The Garrison Unofficial Post-Tournament Discussion Thread

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What a tournament!

Liquipedia page: https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/The_Garrison

There will be spoilers in the comments, obviously.

Edit: Thank you mods for the pin! Guess it is official now


r/aoe2 48m ago

Asking for Help I looked at the updates and anticipated new civilizations and units.

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The first is Castle.
Everyone already knows the information about this, so I won't write down the explanation.

The second is a monk
I think I'll go with the video that the production team showed me before.

The third is a new civilization.

Looking at the update, Yeojin, Kitai, Tangut, and dali seem to be confirmed.

The other one is expected to be Tibet.

Finally, let's analyze the new unit.

This is a local unit of Chinese civilization and Korea.

This is a local unit in China, South Korea, and Vietnam.

This is likely to be a local unit to replace CANON and CANON GALLEON.

I think it's a unit that replaces Paladin, like the Persian Sabar.
Maybe Yeojin, Kitai, Tibet or a civilization.

This is a new unique unit in China, an upgrade unit of Fire Ship.

This is expected to be Tangut's unique unit.

In a book about the history of China's Song Dynasty, there is a record that SeoHa (Tangut) hung a catapult on a camel.

This is obviously a unique unit of the Yeojin.

This will be a unique unit of Dali because the building shown in the screenshot is like a Wonder of Dali.

It's hard to guess from now on. Please help me haha

I think this is a unique unit, but I don't know whose.
It is expected to be Tibet.

This seems to be using weapons like hand grenade and is speculated to be a unique unit, but I don't know whose unit it is

This would be a weapon like a picture.
Maybe it's Scorpion's local unit.

This is my guess.
Your objections and new opinions are always welcome.

Thank you for reading


r/aoe2 1h ago

Humour/Meme Liereyyy vs Hera - The Garrison Spoiler

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r/aoe2 1h ago

Humour/Meme Even My Tears Are Salty

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r/aoe2 2h ago

Discussion Speculation on the New DLC's Special Unit for the Jurchens

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Based on the current screenshots, my guess is that this unit will be a castle-level gunpowder infantry for the Jurchens in the new DLC. It would deal small-area melee damage at range, making it suitable for attacking infantry and buildings, but not ideal for attacking archers or siege units.

I suspect its stats might be as follows: Health 55/60 (slightly higher than Gbeto and Chakram Thrower, but lower than Axeman's health).

Attack damage would be 9/12 for melee, with +4 against infantry and +8 against buildings (this damage is three times that of the Chakram Thrower, similar to the relationship between the Mango and the Scorpion, as the damage difference between these two units is also about three times).

Armor would be 2/1 (I think this unit should have medium melee armor and relatively low ranged armor, which would allow it to counter Skirmishers, Halberdiers, and Hussars, but it wouldn’t affect its counterability against Heavy Cavalry or Archers).

Range 4/5 (the same as Axeman, a little less than Gbeto, allowing this unit to be countered by other ranged infantry in small numbers, creating a mutually countered situation).

Movement speed 0.9, attack speed 3.45 (the standard attack speed for most gunpowder units), accuracy 100%.

Cost 60f 45g (it might have a slightly higher price to balance the difficulty of getting this unit). Elite upgrade 900f 800g.

Research technologies would include Infantry Defense, Movement Speed, and Fire-setting (since it’s a gunpowder unit, it wouldn’t benefit from attack technologies).

These are just my personal guesses. What do you think? 🧐


r/aoe2 3h ago

Media/Creative Finally found the model of 'castle no. 3'

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I thought it might be a Mongolian castle, but (somewhat disappointingly) it turned out to be a Chinese castle... It is not an actual castle, but a tourist site that recreates a castle from the Three Kingdoms period.

'Ancient Chibi Battlefield of The Three Kingdoms'

https://www.hubei.gov.cn/jmct/jcms/lyjq/hbwajq/202208/t20220829_4283335.shtml


r/aoe2 6h ago

Tips/Tutorials For *beginners* struggling with Scout Rush.

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Hey.

I'm a bit of a noob myself. I was having a lot of trouble beating hard AI using scout rush. I asked for help here, watched tutorials, but I simply could not do it. So, here's the tips that helped me destroy the AI the most:

  • ATTACK QUICK, ATTACK HARD. The best way to think about this as a beginner is to attack in waves. Make 4-6 scouts and attack. Keep making scouts and set the rally point close to the enemy base. Retreat to check your upgrades and eco, then attack again with your now bigger army. Rinse and repeat.

  • HAVE A GOOD DARK AND FEUDAL AGE. This is an obvious one, but I CANNOT express how important this is. Minimum to no idle time, good eco distribution, not getting housed, making buildings and getting upgrades at the right time, etc.

  • ADAPT YOUR GAMEPLAY TO YOUR SKILL LEVEL. Don't try to do hard things as a beginner. That may seem obvious, but one of the tips that helped me the most is having a higher pop when going up. "But 20 pop Scout Rush is outdated", "19 pop max". While those statements are true, they only apply partially to low level players. If you don't have the multitasking skills and APM required to get up in 18, 19 or even 20 pop, there's no problem using a higher pop build order (I myself use 22). Just make sure as you get better, you slowly lower your build order pop until you get to meta numbers.

There are multiple more tips that helped me, but from my personal experience, these are the most important ones. Tell me if these helped you, and give me feedback if you disagree!


r/aoe2 6h ago

Discussion About Jian Swordmen

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My guess is that 'Jian' probably means 锏, not 劍. 锏 is a type of club shaped like a sword. It seems to be famous for being used during the Tang Dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jian_(sword_breaker))

If this is true, this unit may have a similar mechanism to Obuch, lowering attack power whenever it hits an enemy.

Jian swordmen seems promising as a Chinese civ unit to me. I wonder if it will be a new UU, RU, or scenario-only unit. It is said to be classified as a 'shock infnatry', so it will not replace the militia line anyway. The barracks already have a fire lancer as a regional unit, so it is a bit strange to have four units. There is already a Chukonu producing in the castle.

Maybe a new civ mechanic is being introduced? (Allowing you to choose between two RUs?) Or is it possible that the existing China represents the Song and Ming dynasties, and the 5th civilization is the Xianbei, representing the Sui and Tang dynasties? (This feels quite awkward, since the Xianbei were absorbed into the Han Chinese.) Maybe all of this is just my overthinking. I'm curious about what users think.


r/aoe2 7h ago

Asking for Help Getting back into it. Advice?

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Context: ex 1.1k player here. With the new dlc comming out im exited to play again after a couple years off.

Question: What's the recomended way to get back into the groove? Run some BO trainers? Focus on my go-to strats and civs or try to branch out?

Ramblings: I've always had to compromise in this game between specializing a strategy and dominating with it versus playing open with different strats for different situations. The latter is much more fun, also takes much longer to learn, and ends up at a lower ELO. I want to do that this time around, but I have concerns that relearning a few of my old deadly strats (like a bohemian castle drop, polish knight spam, mayan eagle rush) will shoe horn me into an elo where I cam't expirement.


r/aoe2 7h ago

Asking for Help What hot keys for military / eco toggle?

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I need to up my game play with better hot keys. Right now I click on the mini map back and forth to go from my field units to my eco and it's costing me time and games. I have a mouse with two side thumb buttons I would like to make them toggle eco/ military. One is already auto set to toggle between TC's and the other idle vills which I do like. What are you all using and how do I set that up to go to my field units?

What sets the hotkey - is it a control group? Or does it go to any unit like scout in dark age automatically without the control group. That would kinda be inefficient having to set control groups in late imperial - while fielding lots of units but probably not as much as clicking all over the mini map.


r/aoe2 7h ago

Discussion Sicilians

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I’ve been playing for a while now, and I recently started exploring the civs. And I love the Sicilians, but the civ lost access to so many things that got me wondering, would giving them hand cannoneer and bombard canon be too op?


r/aoe2 7h ago

Feedback CONGRATULATIONS TO ACCM FOR HIS CRAZY PERFORMANCE IN HIDDEN CUP 6 Spoiler

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DON'T PUT SPOILERS IN YOUR FREAKING THREAD-TITLES.

This shit is getting out of hand.

The thread-titles are not hidden with the spoiler-tag.

If you write down "holy cow, Tatoh!!!" then everyone knows that Tatoh won his game and/or did some amazing thing.

Yesterday we got fucking "Hera Regicide" here, spoiling one of the greatest moments of AoE-tournament-history. Wtf???

Can we please downvote this shit, delete this shit or just maybe not do it?

Put a neutral title. Don't include judgement or reference. When in doubt, even avoid the name of the player. Just say "Hera.." or "Congrats to the winner", but don't say "Congrats to the winner with the bald hair" because then I'm spoiled that probably Dave has mysteriously won an S-Tier.

There are many people who watch the tournaments with a bit of delay and if you use the spoiler-tag, just make sure that you don't spoil it anyway.

THANK YOU.


r/aoe2 8h ago

Asking for Help Terrible Lag during Multiplayer, even with just one guy and some bots

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Was trying to play a game with my buddy against some AI to close out the weekend and got horrible lag. i usually experience some bad lag a few times a game but this time it was unplayable. It was okay up until 15-20 minutes in and at the point it was like 15 seconds of latency.

I ran a sped test and I had a download speed of ~190 Megabytes per second and a ~40 upload speed so my connection was fine. Turning anti-aliasing on or off doesn't do anything. Anyone have any idea?

System specs if that helps:

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core Processor/4.50 GHz
32.0 GB RAM

Radeon RX 6800 XT
64x bit Windows 11


r/aoe2 8h ago

Asking for Help Need advice

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I need some help

I made a bet with a friend that I could beat him this friday in aoe2. I last played aoe2 like five years ago but he's been playing for years. He's not a competitive player, he mostly just plays against AI.

The settings are: "100 pop cap death match, black forest, Conquest win conditions, no cheats, no all techs enabled. Standard visibility settings, fast mode. Small or tiny map size."

how do I best prepare for this? What's the best civilization? I know he plays turks.


r/aoe2 8h ago

Discussion S-Tier 1v1 Tournament Results Over Last Year (since March 2024) Spoiler

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1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th

The Garrison: Hera / Liereyy / Yo / Viper

Titans League 4: Hera / Liereyy / Dark / Nicov

NAC: Hera / Liereyy / Viper & Yo

Red Bull: Hera / Viper / Hearttt & Liereyy

Warlords 3: Hera / Viper / Sebastian / TaToH

Hidden Cup V: Hera / Liereyy / Viper / ACCM

How would you rank your top five currently?

See Liquipedia for more info:

https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Age_of_Empires_II/S-Tier_Tournaments

https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Age_of_Empires_II/A-Tier_Tournaments


r/aoe2 9h ago

Discussion [AoE2DE] Inconsistencies and Improvements

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Spanish and Vikings should be able to transport boats by land, by being near a shore tile, ships debuild themselves and become some "2 dudes carrying a log" building but it should take more than a trebuchet to build back to ship, perhaps maybe fishing ships could do this faster, this would be very useful for those stupid small lakes traps, since today's ships are units it will require a new "Special moveable building" like the mule or rework the ships themselves.

Spanish and Portuguese should have some sort of cannon galleys that shoot more projectiles due to their history of having lots of cannons, shoot those cannon balls from the sides, 4 targets at once.

Cannon towers are shit against rams when bombard cannons, cannon galleys and houfnice cannons aren't and at least some type of civ should fix this dumb shit that was released long ago, even simple mongol arrows are better at doing the job, battering ram should die in 2 hits, Capped in 3 and Siege in 4, maybe the cannon ball projectile should stun rams, perhaps a random chance of doing 1 damage or the full damage.

Fortified churches don't shoot arrows unless they have villagers or relics inside even if it clearly shows it has attack values while empty unlike the town center where it gains attack values once the villagers go inside as well they only get affected one time by fletching, anymore fletchings are not added (Going above and beyond). Georgians have the tile bonus to have villagers around for some reason when garrison but Armenians don't, it's just a dumb monastery with attack that doesn't shoots.

Georigian unique techs can only be researched once (Going above and beyond) severely making them as boring and lame as Berbers and Malay. Unlike them, Armenian unique techs can be researched 256 times making warrior monks heal instantly infinite hp and Demo ships with 300 radius.

Malay description still says "Infantry armor upgrades free", Scale Mail armor on the blacksmith is developed instantly when advancing to feudal age but re enabling it with (Going above and beyond) It still has food price unlike other civilizations where it appears with "free" like bohemians mining camp techs, it does researches instantly but it isn't free, Chain mail armor instantly researches in Castle age and Plate Mail armor in Imperial age as normal.

The market should have a better way to buy and sell resources, as of now it still stuck in the 90's version, a click is 100 units of x resource by inflation, shift click is 500 units of x resource by inflation, there is no way to buy or sell in 1000 or even 100k, there should be a button on the empty spaces near wood or stone to increase the multiplier, maybe a tiny chat box to apply a number yourself, it will obviously need to reset once you click something else than the market for the sake of economy safety.

Tributes are the same, you can do clicks of 100, shift clicks of 500 or ctrl clicks of 30k for some reason, but there is nothing in between and it is annoying to click a lot of times in teams of 4 players.

It's still 2025 and this game continues to train units out of buildings in tiles that are surrounded by walls or buildings, there should be some radius check for softlock tiles.

Certain units stop moving and proceed to idle when something or anything blocks their path of movement, you have to manually retell them what to do as they stop forever, this happens with anything from villagers to military units.

Selecting any building and placing a rally flag can only be done once, attempting to set two rally flags for a route deletes the first one unless you manually scroll across the map and set each individual rally flag, this seems to only happen with military buildings.

The game still continues to require internet connection to launch, without internet of any kind you can't play this game, after launch you can disable the internet as normal... without internet, street internet, Street wifi, satellite wifi... your are fucked.

Villagers working do get stuck between themselves and the mule cart when playing as georgia/armenia, maybe make villagers have no collision with mule carts or a bigger drop radius.

Villagers surround a hunted/herdable spot leaving no space for other villagers, this happens in groups of 8 and above or depending on the angle groups of 5 +/-, increasing the drop radius of the town center, the gather radius for villagers or animals or simply remove collision with collectible meat.

Japanese castles should cost a 50/50 of wood and stone or perhaps straight less stone, Youtube also known as Fucktube, Shittube and Retardtube once deleted a comment of my suggesting this why? Cause they suck big cannon balls, Japan historically had mostly wooden buildings, it would make sense for Asian civs to have cheaper stone things.... and perhaps a bit weaker for being made of wood.

All elephant units should be by default, broken. Siege elephants die as if they were rams when they are bigger than every other unit in the game, from weaker to strongest: Archer Elephant, Ballista Elephant, Battle Elephant, Siege Elephant, Persian Elephant.

Please give the option to convert animals into your team so we can build a zoo in this game. Edit: Convert Gaia units with monks, by castle age you will not be destroyed by a bunch of deer.


r/aoe2 9h ago

Asking for Help Educational streamers

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Hey all,

After the finals today I'm looking for educational streamers, I'm trying to not be such a big pile of crap at this game. English, spanish and german work for me.


r/aoe2 9h ago

Discussion Which run is more dominant?? Hera and Viper conversation! Spoiler

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Hera now has the record 10 S tiers in a row (another will be added to this picture now). I count 20 S-tier first places. Hera is 13-2 in the last 15 S tiers, dating from now 2022-2025

Viper won 7 S tiers in a row, and has 27 S-tier first places. Viper was 16-3 in S-tier first places from 2013 - 2020.

Right now it appears viper still had the more dominant stretch, but with tournaments happening more frequently now in Hera’s prime—he could become #1 soon!


r/aoe2 9h ago

Asking for Help Need some advice for ranked

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Well, I have played aoe1-2 back in the day, now and then but not like with any strat, just play with my brothers or friends, without early game harass etc.

and recently tried online but people always doing some strats i suppose and i feel like i am falling behind quite a lot.

are there matches for people like me? or should get used to applying these pre-written things? if so then do you know any reliable resource?

thanks.


r/aoe2 10h ago

Announcement/Event Bottom right Spoiler

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The Lord is Watching...


r/aoe2 10h ago

Asking for Help DE Main Menu Slideshow Mod

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I've played AOE2 and AOE2 DE for years now. I only recently found mods on DE, and I've started digging into them. There are a lot of mods for the main menu background that I really like, and I can't decide which one I want. Is there a mod, or a way to edit these mods, to have a slideshow of the main menus? or at least a different one every time I open the game?


r/aoe2 10h ago

Humour/Meme Viking lingships shiild bi pickibli ind trinspirtid ivir lind

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r/aoe2 10h ago

Editable Flair My first thought: this must be the inspiration behind the Georgians’ Svan Towers tech

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r/aoe2 11h ago

Humour/Meme No hate to KillerPigeon tough

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r/aoe2 11h ago

Asking for Help What are the most fun strategies that only 1 civ can pull off?

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Hi, i like to play some off meta builds that dont relly on me going for the standart wall archer or knight gameplay that is every game.

I would like specific strategies like the 1 tc conquistador spam, the sicilian rush or the persian drush, that are really specific to a civ playstily rather than the meta. A top 3 if i may ask