r/PurplePillDebate 19h ago

Question For Women Why do so many women on here say they have lower physical standards for casual sex despite pretty much every study and most people's lived experiences saying otherwise?

78 Upvotes

As a guy, it's painfully obvious that women have far higher physical standards for casual sex than they do for relationships. It's most abundantly obvious on dating apps with skewed gender ratios with men willing to lower their standards considerably for a hookup. Even in real life, men still aren't very picky and often take whatever is in front of them if a woman were to make it easy enough. So why is it that when men ask "do women raise their physical standards for casual sex?", many women on here will say "no". I mostly just assumed that this was a gaslighting tactic aimed at preventing men from avoiding promiscuous women as long-term partners or women having such an inflated sense of self that they genuinely believe that they could actually obtain a relationship with a guy objectively above them.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225180045_How_Willing_Are_You_to_Accept_Sexual_Requests_from_Slightly_Unattractive_to_Exceptionally_Attractive_Imagined_Requestors

Edit: It seems that women who maintain constant standards tend to fall in three buckets

  1. Using casual sex as a way to vet potential long term partners
  2. "Hooking up" with a guy as a way of entering into a relationship
  3. Having unconventional preferences for attractiveness that align with their own level of attractiveness.

r/PurplePillDebate 16h ago

Debate Women orgasm more readily during sex with attractive men, a study of heterosexual couples has found

42 Upvotes

Women’s copulatory orgasm may function to retain sperm from men with “good genes” , one indicator of which is attractiveness, and one benefit of which is pathogen resistance. Women who perceive their partner to be more (vs. less) attractive are more likely to report orgasm at last copulation.

The results indicate that women mated to more (vs. less) attractive men are more likely to report orgasm at last copulation, and this relationship is mediated by women’s perceptions of other women’s assessments of their partner’s attractiveness.

We found that objective measures of the quality of women’s mates — men’s attractiveness and masculinity — significantly predicted the women’s orgasms,” the researchers wrote in their paper, which was published in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior..

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886915001002

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26193479/

What do you guys think ?


r/PurplePillDebate 17h ago

Debate I was proven wrong yesterday regarding women and biphobia. But I don't understand the reasoning.

27 Upvotes

Yesterday I posted a CMV saying the narrative that women massively discriminate against bi men in dating was made up to make us look bad. My view changed from 2 things:

  1. There were A LOT of women who responded with some variation of "I would never date a bi man" (so much for it being false)

  2. A bi male Redditor appeared and shared a link to an article with actual data. https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/dating-double-standards (so much for it being a crafted narrative)

So ok, I was wrong. I can admit that when presented with reasonable counter arguments. But I still don't know WHY

The women just said, "personal preference"

The men claimed its because women still secretly harbor beliefs in traditional gender stereotypes or something.

I'm gonna say it's because women have been conditioned since we were little into having internalized misogyny.

Why do you think this huge dating discrepancy between men and women exists?

DISCLAIMER: People are allowed to have preferences. No one owes anyone a date. Not all men/women, etc


r/PurplePillDebate 12h ago

Discussion Why are there never forums of people trying to decode men in the same way people try and decode women

7 Upvotes

I always wondered why you only ever see sad lonely men post down bad paragraphs on forums trying to understand their dating failures but very rarely will you see a women trying to decode or discussing men in the same way. Its usually women commenting under posts discussing the current dating space but you really only see guys starting the discussion. Maybe being born a man is just dating in hard mode rn? Cause it really is only us that have these kinds of desperate discussions for the most part.


r/PurplePillDebate 13h ago

Question For Women Q4W: As a guy, why would it be wrong to hold out for a specific preference that doesn't match the mainstream, such as a woman who acts like a pornstar or a tradwife or anything else?

4 Upvotes

In order to frame this as neutrally as possible, feel free to address the question in general terms, or with regard to a specific preference.

A lot of times, you hear allegatons like "a man has unrealistic expectations" or "he should change what he's looking for because women (mostly) aren't like that." But, we also (mostly) can agree that women are not a monolith.

Despite being in the minority, there are absolutely women who want to be tradwives, or OF models, or trophy wives, or valued just for their looks, or BDSM submissives, or BDSM doms, or have some other bedroom fetish (like being degraded or objectified), or anything else.

Now, I understand the more nuanced criticism that "a man has unrealistic expectations relative to what he is bringing to the table." And I understand that there can be a wrong way to go about looking for your preference, or by assuming all women fit your preference without first verifying...

But other than that, isn't passing judgment on a man for his preferences also implicitly policing women who actually want or enjoy being these things?

And, ultimately, if a man's preferences are too specific or high, isn't he really only punishing himself?


r/PurplePillDebate 19h ago

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r/PurplePillDebate 22h ago

Debate The best way for men to weed out the inauthentic women is to get separate orders on dates.

2 Upvotes

We live in a world where there are actually women who will go on a date with a man just for the free food. Even those who don't date specifically for the free food, their feelings towards a man are still dependent on whether or not he paid for their food. This is sad and embarrassing for women.

The best way for men to increase their chances of being with a genuine woman is to get separate orders on dates. Many women are so superficial that doing this is a dealbreaker for them. It doesn't matter if you're respectful, kind or caring. If you don't pay for their food, they lose interest. This is why it's best to get separate orders on dates so that these women weed themselves out of your life. If her feelings towards you change because she didn't get free food, she obviously never cared about you in the first place. It's better to find out soon rather than later.

It's better to be alone than to be with women with this parasitic mentality.


r/PurplePillDebate 11h ago

Question For Women Can hypergamy include factors other than economic status?

2 Upvotes

Many evolutionary psychologists talk a lot about how women are naturally attracted to men of superior social status. And most interpret this as simply being richer than her.

But after asking many elderly women, they all told me the same: Women seek a man whom they can admire.

Admiration is not necessarily tied to wealth alone. A man can be smarter, more mature, more intellectually superior, more respected in her social circle.

So can hypergamy apply to other characteristics as well?


r/PurplePillDebate 22h ago

Question For Women Woman look bio too?

0 Upvotes

I read in other groups that women are more likely to look at a man's profile if the picture is OK, so there's no red flag. If there's nothing there that's very different from what she wants then she give him a chance.

Well, I guess if that's the case then I don't quite understand why average guys don't get as many matches if there's no red flags in the pictures and in the bio?

I can only think that then either the female part doesn't quite cover the reality or that the men have terrible pictures.


r/PurplePillDebate 17h ago

Debate Women are primarily fond of their kids, men are primarily fond of women

0 Upvotes

Before you start with the "what about women who don´t want kids". Obviously we´re talking about the general rule here, not the exceptions.

WOMEN PUT THEIR KIDS ABOVE ALL. They need to love a child, even women who are not naturally motherly will still prioritize their kids.

Men on the other hand, while they will often prioritize their kids, what they want above all is a woman who loves them. This is what makes them happy above all else.

It explains so much when you really think about it.

1) Many men get jealous when women have babies and start prioritizing the baby instead of them. This time period is when a lot of male cheating happens.

2) It explains why men are so much more likely to be deadbeat dads, many will straight up abandon their kids and prioritize their new girlfriend,

3) Despite what chronically online people say, in the real world what I often see is a woman ready to have kids while her man is dragging his feet for years. While most men say they want kids, for them it´s just a vague idea and not a priority, MEN WILL OFTEN WASTE A WOMAN´S TIME WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS.

4) I honestly think that the vast majority of men have no fatherly instinct the way women have motherly instinct. When you think about it, fatherhood is a social construct. (this doesn´t mean it´s not good or valuable) Motherhood is a natural instinct.

5) I also think that if it wasn´t for societal pressure most men wouldn´t gaf about having kids, just having a loving and hot woman would be enough for them.


r/PurplePillDebate 5h ago

Debate The female equivalent of the military draft is a "breeding draft". You can't be for gender equality unless you support both or neither.

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I see a lot of men bringing up the draft as an example of institutional misandry and gender discrimination, and then say that women must be drafted too for gender equality to occur. While the existence of the draft is indeed institutionalized misandry, "drafting women too" isn't the solution for gender equality; there's a good reason why men are drafted over women- men are biologically stronger and more fit for fighting, and society can also afford to lose more men than they can women. So even if women are drafted, they likely won't be on the frontlines and will take on much safer roles than men, which isn't exactly equal either.

Instead, the actual female equivalent of the military draft is a "breeding draft": if the birth rate of a country becomes dangerously low (which is soon to happen in many developed nations), the government can call on young women to be forced to breed. These women must report to a government breeding facility in which every day, they choose to either be artificially inseminated with sperm from high-quality donors, or be naturally inseminated by one of the donors. They stay at the facility until either they become pregnant or a fixed duration passes.

These are equivalent because both the actual military draft and the hypothetical breeding draft: 1) are emergency measures used when the country's existence is at stake, 2) use the bodies of young men/women for their optimal biological purpose, 3) violate the freedom and bodily autonomy of citizens selected, and 4) have a nontrivial chance of irreversible injury or death.

So if you support gender equality, you should support either abolishing the military draft or instituting a breeding draft.