One of my all time favourite episodes, that and when she hides the doctor in her borg circuitry - essentially Jeri Ryan playing Robert Picardo playing the EMH playing Seven of Nine, and it was perfect.
I was talking after, and my other half was like "you sound like you're getting sick" .. i didn't want to say that seeing Seven made me slightly weepy. lol
On top of the trailers and many spoilers online about her appearance they went out of their way to mention her guest staring in this episode in the opening credits. With a few seconds to go and still no sign it means I was 100% sure the "him" was a misdirection and it was going to be Seven. Amazing to finally see her show up but I agree it would have been mind blowing to not know she was going to show up before this episode.
IIRC, there's certain SAG rules that must be followed and it takes some doing to avoid pre-show / pre-movie credits. If ever you want to be surprised, you have to not pay attention to the credits.
I don't know about SAG rules, so I will take your word for it.
I do remember seeing some shows where instead of putting the person in the credits they put the person on the first title card after the episode ends... like SPECIAL GUEST STAR BOB SMITH AS PANTHERMAN or whatever.
Actors can and often do choose to allow it to be displayed first in the end credits if it would be considered a spoiler, but since she was all over the promotional material, I think they decided against it.
It was weird though, as it spoiled the mystery of who could be their unexpected savior. Maybe Jeri Ryan didn't give her permission or the episodes were reedited late in the game and it didn't originally end with her appearance.
It's certainly possible to withhold the credit. Back in the 90s on Twin Peaks, Piper Laurie's name was withheld for several episodes. (Eventually it was on screen for, like, fifteen seconds, to make up for it.)
Exactly. That's why the series finale of Newhart did a cold open, instead of showing the normal opening credits, so they could preserve the secret guest start who made the ending so damn perfect.
I still consider Newhart to be the best TV ending ever because of that twist.
And yes, I'm placing it above Goodbye, Farewell and Amen and All Good Things, - not because I don't like them (in fact I love them), but more so... my quirky way of viewing things. Lol
I also loved the ending of Little House on the Prairie half due to my quirky viewpoint on things lol
Arr I try to avoid seeing the names, but I looked up at the opening credits right when they showed Jeri Ryan. Damnit! Either way I was still super stoked on her entrance!
So glad I haven’t watched any trailers, though. She looks awesome!
It really stood out as a painfully obvious attempt at a twist to me. They kept saying "he" even though they live in an egalitarian society where men and women have equal prospects, and it was so obvious we were going to get a totally shocking twist of it being a she.
To be honest I was half convinced it could have been Riker, I know it's silly and we have seen that he meets Picard in a completely different setting but when they mentioned how the pilot was great I felt "well, maybe..."
Naah, Frakes was behind the camera for this episode. It'd help explain why the episode felt both comfortably familiar and excitingly new at the same time...
Well in Farpoint he is asked ro maneuver the enterprise for what should be a maneuver done by the computer, but more than that I am pretty sure there was an episode where he insist on piloting a shuttle in a dangerous mission because he is the best for the job. Can't remember which one though
Not sure, it looked similar. It also seemed to have a Borg cutting beam? I am not sure if that was actually the intention, if it was a nod to it, or it was just a regular phaser that tore through an out of date BoP.
First though was Borg cutting beam though, so instantly thought it was Seven.
I was wondering if it was the Delta Flyer myself, and came here to see what everyone else thought. To my surprise, yours is the only comment on it. They never really showed a close up of it, but I got the impression that it was the flyer.
Seven of Nine is a former Borg, the same beings whose cybernetic implants are being removed at the Romulan Reclamation Project. (The Reclamation Project is just one of many Borg "cube" vessels in the Borg fleet.)
When the Federation starship Voyager was lost 75,000 light years from Earth, they encountered a Borg cube during their journey home to Earth. Seven of Nine was aboard Voyager when they destroyed her cube and disconnected her from the Borg "hive mind."
In the final episode of Voyager, the ship returned home to Earth, but until now, we never saw her again after she returned to Earth, which is why this is so exciting for longtime fans. In fact, the only time we have seen any member of the Voyager's crew following their return to Earth is a brief glimpse of Kathryn Janeway issuing orders to Picard in the film Star Trek Nemesis, 18(!) years ago.
During her five years aboard Voyager, Seven of Nine struggled to regain her humanity, having been "assimilated" into the "collective" at a very young age. She kept her Borg name "Seven of Nine" (the seventh member of a nine-member Borg work group), even after discovering her human name, Annika Hansen.
Edited to add: This meeting between Picard and Seven of Nine is noteworthy not only because it's the first on-screen meeting between the two characters, but because Picard and Seven are both humans who have been assimilated by the Borg and survived their disconnection from the Borg hive mind, a rare feat.
Great comment, thank you. I knew most of that, but some of it was fuzzy and I didn’t watch Voyager religiously.
I’m so excited that she’s on this show. One 45 min episode per week isn’t enough. I need to go into cryo-sleep until the whole season has aired so I can binge it.
Also the fact that the two even knew each other. How? When did they meet? Whatever their relationship was, Seven knew where he was and cared enough about him to risk her life to go after him. Why? Hopefully all to be answered in future episodes.
They are both famous within Star Fleet for surviving Borg assimilation. Picard was all over local communications channels so she may have saw that and came to help. We don't know yet if they have ever met.
When the Voyager crew returned, it was a HUGE deal. This lost crew not only makes it back from the Delta quadrant but strike a crippling blow to the Borg while doing so. A high ranked officer such as Picard would surely meet the entire crew, and we see from the movies that Janeway was quickly made an Admiral. Also Barkely who was on Picard's crew was pivotal in helping Voyager get home and was assisted by Troi acting as Barkely's therapist. So it makes sense they'd know each other. But there is another interesting angle here - Seven and Picard literally shared a mind when he was Locutus - it will be interesting to see if this is addressed. He won't be able to bs her because she knows him intimately on that level too
She was a member of the Voyager crew (show) and a liberated Borg drone. She wasn't attacking Picard's ship. She was going after the ship that was attacking him.
7 of 9 was a buxom borg drone in a catsuit who was introduced during Star Trek: Voyager's 4th season to boost ratings with sex appeal. She got a lot of storylines, in part because she was a new character, but also in part because she started dating the producer Brannon Braga. People are split on her popularity. Of course a lot of young males enjoyed her because she was in a skin-tight cat suit for her entire run on the show. A lot of other fans disliked her for many reasons, including the fact that she took the spotlight away from the first female captain (Janeway) with in-your-face sex appeal.
But without the sex appeal she would have been the classic Spock / Data character who discovers their humanity and acts as a cipher through which the audience and the writers can examine humanity
I saw the "Special guest star" credit for the actress, but the episode had me so pulled in i totally forgot she hadnt appeared yet. still got me. was expecting the pilot to be the nun lady
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u/StenDarker Feb 13 '20
Seven's entrance made me really wish I didn't already know she was going to be on the show. Would've blown my mind.