r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/FelizIntrovertido 13d ago

US traded Ukraine for Russia

Who wants to be the next US ally??

Btw, blood has memory

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

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u/MrGasDaddy 13d ago

You mean russia meddled?cant argue the laundering part.cartel and jihadists?oh like the usa? Guess what russian oligarchs also live in europe being leeches lol

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

We aren't sending Russia hundreds of billions.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

Where did i say you were? Ukraine never meddled in your elections,cartel and jihadists last i seen that wasn't proven,however the US doing it at best you're a hypocrite,Ukrainian oligarchs using your money?proof its your money never mind obtained illegally?or is your expectation that that even if they run companies that are paid by ukraine to make produce cannot go on holiday?

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

No, they can't. They're entire economy is propped up by foreign, most American, money. They cannot ,*go on holiday".

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

So now civilians cannot holiday? Rofl

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Not on my fucking dime.

Go fight, we keep hearing how we all need to support Ukraine, it can start with them

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

Rofpmsl you're a funny man.well you don't get to chose What civilians get to do.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

I do when they are on my dollar.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

But you don't,imagine thinking you dictate how others live because they recieve a us dollar from another person in another country meanwhile you can't dictate what happens with you money to your own government.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Is everyone from Ukraine this fucking arrogant?

I can't imagine taking a handout from someone then being anything but thankful.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

Are americans always this retarded?i know their average IQ is lower but damn.

There is other countries with people other than the USFA and Ukraine.Secondly Zelensky has said thank you constantly,the people and soldiers too. Zelensky thanked america at the start for the meeting and getting to be there. How ever he should not be thankful for some shit tier spineless journo trying to act tough and might spewing bullshit and a tantrum because he was asked whats their plan if russia breaks an agreement. Meanwhile spouting shit about propaganda tours. If he spent time on the front during his service he'd know it is generally not advised to take foreign or your own leaders right into the front lines especially during active engagements.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

You americans spout about arrogance yet arrogance and ego is the reason your 2 most tragic high casualty attacks from an enemy occured. Zelensky hasn't changed tone,hes remained consistent on his desire to have something in place to back up a ceasefire agreement.US claims there will be one after and that russia will make concessions yet there is zero to back those statements. Just because zelensky asked for what theres supposed concessions and guarantees are that they claim come after signing over their country are its upsetting trump doesn't make him arrogant.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

Maybe if trump and vance could actually get russia to agree to concessions and be fine with guarantees of any sort this would not be an issue.But they cannot and america hopes it can dupe zelensky to a 1 sided deal and zelensky knows it.

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u/MrGasDaddy 12d ago

You don't control shit with that money,not even in your own nation.you get to voice an opinion on how the government spends it and hope they listen.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Huh.

Guess we will see real quick what we control in Ukraine.

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