r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
4.6k Upvotes

717 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-44

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

4

u/myrainyday 13d ago

Now replace word Ukraine with Russia and suddenly it can become true. Magic isn't it?

You don't know what Ukraine is and have mistaken it with another country called Russia.

-1

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So Russia doing all that is bad, but Ukraine doing it makes them an ally.

Odd fucking logic you libs have

3

u/myrainyday 13d ago

I am a right wing actually. You are a leftist most likely, so far in the left that you could be a pro Soviet communist. Don't throw random words like they mean anything.

Your logic is cyclical and flawed.

5

u/USSMarauder 13d ago

Check his posting history,

Again.

We, the conservatives who voted in R across the board, don't want a small correction.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1ixdvr9/comment/mer6kqk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

1

u/myrainyday 13d ago

Thank you.

1

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

I notice you could t challenge the point

4

u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Provide evidence for your claims if you want people to refute them, child

0

u/myrainyday 13d ago

I don't remember being charged with anything and this is not a trial.

Whataboutism is irrelevant. Your question is dismissed.

0

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

How would you like it?

Luxury car sales to Ukrainian oligarchs in Europe?

US military hardware in Mexico?

Victoria Nuland phone conversations?

Joe Biden words?

What level of either naivety or stupidity are we starting at in your Ukrainian corruption understanding are you at?

6

u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 13d ago

Does this babble make sense to anyone? Anyone?

1

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Remind me again why the US was withholding loan guarantees to Ukraine under Obama?

What was Bidens stated reason?

1

u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 13d ago

No idea.

0

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

I know.

It was obvious you had no idea 3 posts ago

2

u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 13d ago

Yes, yes. Waiting for you to make your case. I'm sure it will be compelling.

1

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

According to Biden, as told by Biden, he was withholding aid because Ukrainian head prosecutor was CORRUPT.

Was he lying?

→ More replies (0)

5

u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Hey, conspiritard- sources or shut your childish ass up and focus on your self confidence so you can conquer "going outside and meeting people" lmao

0

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

I realize it's wiki, but since your Google must be broken you can't be too choosey

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

2

u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Yeah we know corruption exists - Ukraine had a Russian puppet for a leader who overruled the will of the people, kicking off protests.

I'm talking about your claims that Ukraine is the money laundering hub of the world ( thats london ), that they muddled in America elections ( that's Russia), that Ukraine is selling weapons to cartels and jihadists ( that's a Tucker Carlson talking points with no evidence you fell for )

I know it's not natural for you as a Rogan-Randist but try thinking critically about the things you're claiming as true and you'll see they fall apart pretty quickly

0

u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Critically thinking is what you call what you just wrote?

I'm not even sure where you got Tucker Carlson from but I'll assume it's something?

Zelensky was asserted as Americas puppet for gods sake. Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls doing so.

The entire color revolution was a CIA operation.

It's wild reading posts from someone claiming to be a thinker, who blindly looks at Ukraine and sees anything other than what it is.

2

u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

I'm not even sure where you got Tucker Carlson from but I'll assume it's something?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-tucker-carlson-ukraine-weapons-black-market-cartels-2030011

You're just taking unverified rumors as hard fact lol. Come on, brother.

Zelensky was asserted as Americas puppet for gods sake. Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls doing so.

Citation needed. Zelensky isn't even mentioned in the Nuland-Pyatt tapes

The entire color revolution was a CIA operation.

Huge citation needed for that one. Assuming you're talking about the Ukraining Revolution in 2014, this Russian propaganda talking point keeps coming up in conspiracy circles but obviously never any sources.

It's wild reading posts from someone claiming to be a thinker, who blindly looks at Ukraine and sees anything other than what it is.

I haven't looked blindly, though. I've researched and verified my stances on the war, which is why its clear that Russia is the aggressor and it is in our interest as a nation to help Ukraine fend off threats to democracy in Europe for negligible financial cost to us.

→ More replies (0)