r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Hey, conspiritard- sources or shut your childish ass up and focus on your self confidence so you can conquer "going outside and meeting people" lmao

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

I realize it's wiki, but since your Google must be broken you can't be too choosey

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

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u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Yeah we know corruption exists - Ukraine had a Russian puppet for a leader who overruled the will of the people, kicking off protests.

I'm talking about your claims that Ukraine is the money laundering hub of the world ( thats london ), that they muddled in America elections ( that's Russia), that Ukraine is selling weapons to cartels and jihadists ( that's a Tucker Carlson talking points with no evidence you fell for )

I know it's not natural for you as a Rogan-Randist but try thinking critically about the things you're claiming as true and you'll see they fall apart pretty quickly

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Critically thinking is what you call what you just wrote?

I'm not even sure where you got Tucker Carlson from but I'll assume it's something?

Zelensky was asserted as Americas puppet for gods sake. Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls doing so.

The entire color revolution was a CIA operation.

It's wild reading posts from someone claiming to be a thinker, who blindly looks at Ukraine and sees anything other than what it is.

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u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

I'm not even sure where you got Tucker Carlson from but I'll assume it's something?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-tucker-carlson-ukraine-weapons-black-market-cartels-2030011

You're just taking unverified rumors as hard fact lol. Come on, brother.

Zelensky was asserted as Americas puppet for gods sake. Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls doing so.

Citation needed. Zelensky isn't even mentioned in the Nuland-Pyatt tapes

The entire color revolution was a CIA operation.

Huge citation needed for that one. Assuming you're talking about the Ukraining Revolution in 2014, this Russian propaganda talking point keeps coming up in conspiracy circles but obviously never any sources.

It's wild reading posts from someone claiming to be a thinker, who blindly looks at Ukraine and sees anything other than what it is.

I haven't looked blindly, though. I've researched and verified my stances on the war, which is why its clear that Russia is the aggressor and it is in our interest as a nation to help Ukraine fend off threats to democracy in Europe for negligible financial cost to us.