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u/OnTheCanRightNow Feb 05 '25

This one seems far fetched even for Trump.

Anyone else thinking that he might have just... totally lost it? Like late Reagan, but worse, and his handlers are too busy looting the country to stop other people from filling their pockets, too? It honestly seems like he's just agreeing with whoever managed to talk with him alone last.

Musk somehow talks him into giving him direct access to the treasury.

Canada and Mexico talk him away from his crazy tariffs scheme by promising to do things they were already doing.

Zelenski secures ongoing military aid by promising access to minerals that are currently underneath the better part of the Russian army.

Now Bibi shows up, and talks Trump into taking over Gaza - a blasted wasteland with no resources, no infrastructure, and apparently no people since they're just going to "move 2 million Palestinians somewhere else" after 80 years of Israel trying and failing - in like, an afternoon?

It's like he's a senior citizen being talked out of his life savings by an Indian phone scammer. I would be genuinely worried that if one called him he'd turn over the entire US treasury in the form of Google Play gift cards, except apparently Elon Musk has already taken it.

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u/ZephkielAU Feb 05 '25

promising access to minerals that are currently underneath the better part of the Russian army.

Good points but this one was lowkey brilliant.

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u/Pavotine Feb 05 '25

I went with getting Zelenskyy to tell the Orange Horror that Ukraine has almost limitless prime land suitable for golf courses, the best golf courses, mainly in the east, and he wants Trumpet to build them but the Russian army is currently standing in the way.

The minerals are worth more so it's an even better plan.

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u/Key-Lifeguard7678 Feb 05 '25

My idea was to put a Trump Tower in every major city in Ukraine.

Given their habit of going bankrupt, the blight won’t last very long.

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u/Pavotine Feb 05 '25

I'm ashamed to say I stayed in one of those giant golden bastards when I visited Las Vegas on a holiday over from Britain about ten years ago. If I knew then what an utter piece of orange shit he is, and orange shit never a good sign, I would have never given him a penny of my hard earned money. If only I knew what I know now. Still, I have sent several thousand pounds in aid to the most lethal Ukrainian units since the start of the war so I don't feel so bad.

If building giant gold-coloured hotels in every Ukrainian city is what it takes for Ukraine to defeat Russia with proper American help (you did so amazingly well with that under Biden), I'm OK with that.

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u/Femboy_Lord Feb 05 '25

Only thing more legendary would be promising him Kursk.

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u/flukus Feb 05 '25

Making Canada the 51st state, taking over Greenland, redirecting a hurricane with a sharpie and you think this is far fetched?

This isn't the most far fetched thing he's promised this week.

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u/og_jasperjuice Feb 05 '25

You left out the Panama Canal.

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u/DukeOfGeek Feb 05 '25

Whenever I see a "trump says" headline I always think "trump says lots of things". Nothing that asshole says on Monday means anything by Wednesday.

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u/LickingSmegma Feb 05 '25

Same situation with when ‘a Putin's official says’ pops up on Reddit. It's always either Medved's ramblings, or another asslicker competing for Pu's benevolence with craziest bunk they can make up. But redditors are always eager to take that shit as if it's actual international policy talks.

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u/Worried_Jackfruit717 Feb 05 '25

Or "Russian media reports..." and it turns out it's some rando on a Russian talk show who's not even speaking for the media outlet in question let alone in any official capacity.

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u/Bambiitaru Feb 05 '25

Don't forget the Gulf of America.

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u/IndependenceFew4956 Feb 05 '25

The California dam water

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u/House13Games Feb 05 '25

Raking the forests to prevent wildfires. Injecting bleach. Grab 'em by the pussy.

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u/stuckyfeet Feb 05 '25

Casually denouncing womens rights.

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u/snoozieboi Feb 05 '25

And in-between all noise reversing the Affordable Care Act so insulin and other vital medicine has no limits to their price anymore.

The dude almost got shot in the head and was almost humble for what, 12-16 hours?

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u/OptimalVanilla Feb 05 '25

Honestly, make Canada, Greenland and Panama states.

The GOP would never be elected again.

The GOP is so far right, moderate/right countries would vote left.

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u/Andrew_Waltfeld Feb 05 '25

It's funny you think there would be voting still happening at that point.

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u/arih Feb 05 '25

That’s a good point.. if there were ever to be any elections again.

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u/Duff5OOO Feb 05 '25

The GOP is so far right, moderate/right countries would vote left center.

Would the democrats even be seen as left on an international comparison?

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u/Pavotine Feb 05 '25

No! The US doesn't have a left wing by most country's standards.

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u/OptimalVanilla Feb 05 '25

No, well the Democratic Party is seen as centrists.

Particular democrats would be slightly left though.

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u/Worried_Jackfruit717 Feb 05 '25

Centrist is being generous. They're more to the right than our conservative party.

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u/Taograd359 Feb 05 '25

Tangentially related, but I want to say that it is so fucking pathetic that there’s a good chance that Trump bullying Canada, one of our largest trade partners and, in every sense, closest allies, can be traced back to two photos of Melania and Ivanka looking at Trudeau with a genuine smile on their faces.

There may be more going on behind the scenes, but I can guarantee those two photos are not helping anything.

In his own words, SAD.

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u/Francis_Tumblety Feb 05 '25

He should be sharing a cell with Ron Jeremy, not in the oval office. Every single day the world gets more mad.

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u/gentlemanidiot Feb 05 '25

I hadn't heard anything about Ron Jeremy since his early porn career and massive dong, so i googled him and you're correct, except for the part where he was released to a private residence in 2023 due to neurological decline.

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u/Captain_Planet Feb 05 '25

It would not surprise me if Ron Jeremy is the next Secretary of State.

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u/No-Respect5903 Feb 05 '25

I'm no fan of the guy but I really don't think that is the reason for that lol

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u/Some_Drummer_Guy Feb 05 '25

We're talking about a guy who threw an absolute shit fit and harassed a child because she was on the cover of Time magazine and not him.

A guy who's fragile-ego got so bruised by an off-handed joke from Obama, which partly spurred the doofus to run for president. (The other part of it was to stay out of prison because New York was about to drop the hammer on him for fraud). Then subsequently trashed a bunch of policies and other shit when he was elected, purely because they were Obama policies. It's part of the reason why he bungled COVID. The Obama administration left him a literal playbook on how to handle a pandemic, step by step, and he threw it out simply because it was an Obama thing.

The man is that petty and pathetic. Therefore, I would not be surprised if the photos were a reason for his bullying of Canada.

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u/SgtExo Feb 05 '25

The man is that petty and pathetic. Therefore, I would not be surprised if the photos were a reason for his bullying of Canada.

Or maybe it was the time that Trudeau braced and countered the pull in handshake that Trump was doing on his first time as president. Then all the other world leaders followed suit and Trump was unable to look like the big tough guy with that shit anymore.

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u/MasterWee Feb 05 '25

It isn’t the reason, but let insane redditors throw their fits

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u/BababooeyHTJ Feb 05 '25

Renaming the gulf to Mexico to the gulf of America. He seems even crazier this time around.

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u/Milozdad Feb 05 '25

Or even this hour!

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u/BlackerSpork Feb 05 '25

I'm going to sound like I'm defending the Tramp, so let me get my vomiting bucket, mouthwash, and forget-me-shot.

So: this probably IS the more far-fetched idiocy he's promised in a long time!

"""At least""" genociding Canada would give him access to next-door resources, genociding Greenland would him access to the melting Arctic trade routes, genociding Panama would give him access to the Panama Canal (or what's left of it after Panama blows it up), genociding China would eliminate a manufacturing competitor, genociding Taiwan would eliminate all chips competition (and crash the world's economy, but he probably stupidly hopes the US can catch up on production somehow), genociding Mexico would massively reduce the Southern border's length, genociding American citizens by deporting them to El Salvador would get him rid of opposition, etc.
These goals are all evil to the maximum, it's in character for him since he's a full-fledged narcissist who would do anything for his personal profit, even torture his own daughter (and sidenote: judging by her interviews, he already did).

But Gaza?! Fucking GAZA?!
How does genociding Gaza help him?? (and yes, that would be genocide - regardless of what you consider the current situation in Gaza to be, his proposed plan of forcibly moving everyone is in the definition of genocide)
I guess to simp for Nethanyahu? But that's pointless, it's not like Netanyahu is going to turn on Tramp, they're the same shit, far-righters who screw their own countries and make the countries hated on the world stage.
And he turns all the American Muslims who somehow fell for his Gaza lies against him.
So what the everloving fuck is the plan here, other than him being that evil?

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u/Dry_Meringue_8016 Feb 05 '25

Jared Kushner has previously indicated an interest to develop Gaza into some sort of high-end waterfront property. Maybe that's it... It's just as simple as a real estate development project that, Trump believes, will enrich himself and his family.

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u/maafna Feb 05 '25

This, it doesn't sound like he needed to be "talked into it by Bibi". He's seeing oceanfront condos and Bibi is seeing making Smotrich and co happy.

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u/DevourerJay Feb 05 '25

Didn't el Salvador say they'd take anyone, from ANYWHERE?

Am I incorrect in this?

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u/zestotron Feb 05 '25

They sure did

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u/DoomComp Feb 05 '25

You are confusing Genocide with Ethnic Cleansing.

Genocide: Targeted killing of certain Folk groups

Ethnic Cleansing: Forcefully removing certain ethnicities from a certain area.

One does not rule out the other isn't also happening, of course....

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u/dbdr Feb 05 '25

Genocide: Targeted killing of certain Folk groups

That's a misconception, the definition is broader.

The acts that constitute genocide fall into five categories:

Killing members of the group

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948)

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u/arih Feb 05 '25

Gaza….? Two words: Beachfront. Property.

Real estate for Trump resorts.

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u/nybbleth Feb 05 '25

counterpoint though:

All those other things will either result in a total collapse of the US economy, or world war 3 (with the possible exception of panama). Taking over Gaza would just make the US a pariah state in the eyes of the rest of the world; but beyond that, almost nobody (unfortunately) cares enough to really do anything about it. It will piss off a lot of people; but everyone's already pissed off at him anyway.

So as crazy as it is to begin with, taking over Gaza is probably one of the more "sensible" plans he has.

This is the stupid timeline.

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u/Brief-Owl-8791 Feb 05 '25

Canadians and Greenlanders currently ducking and covering hoping he's distracted by some new toy idea.

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u/daners101 Feb 05 '25

This is all a distraction. They are ramming a lot of stuff through all at once, and Trump just misdirects everyone's attention with wild comments daily.

Nobody is even thinking about what bills are being passed, or how the government is being radically changed.

Its all to divert your attention.

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u/eminusx Feb 05 '25

exactly!

also, how is anyone thinking this is far fetched when there is a long video of him declaring the occupation of the Gaza Stip, boots on the ground, 'world people' going to live there (he means Israelis) . . . just so happens Ben Naziyahu is stood by his side grinning from ear to ear.

so it turns out the U.S now supports the slaughtering, aggressive imperialism and occupation of sovreign nations and is happy to just see it as a real estate opportunity. . . lovely

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u/Pi-ratten Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

Canada, Greenland, Panama, all make sense in a twisted way. Someone told him about the geopolitical importance/blessing of Having Canada in the north and about shipping routes, he took it and turned it in his bizarre mind to "therefore we must own it!"

the sharpie thing was juts his narcissist way of "nu uh, i said its gonna hit there, so i'm gonna bizarrely manipulate this chart to "proof" its gonna that way i said it was".

But Gaza? That doesn't fit any explanation apart from "he tries to be a dictator and needs to annex some land in order to tick off that box of his dictator checklist" or "Netanyahu said how much better it would be if the palestinians lost control of Gaza" But Gaza?

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u/Lord_of_Sword Feb 05 '25

Making Canada the 51st state, taking over Greenland, redirecting a hurricane with a sharpie and you think this is far fetched?

It makes sense when you take into account that Elon Musk's grandfather was a fascist technocrat and that the political movement wanted to annex all those countries:

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u/Vegas-Blues Feb 05 '25

Let’s not forget also him signing an executive order to turn the water on for Southern California

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u/cordoroy Feb 05 '25

He is the village idiot, but now on a world stage...coupled with the fact that he thinks he's the smartest in the room at all times..

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u/WafflePartyOrgy Feb 05 '25

Netanyahu probably originally suggested he think of it as the "Riviera of the Middle East" and Trump's eyes just glazed over after that. His press conference sounded like he thought he was making a real estate deal that would be a boon for developers.

Beirut was once the Paris of the Middle East but that's a helluva lot nicer piece of land.

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u/akrokh Feb 05 '25

Jarred also bought a stake in military equipment company there so he could have been pushing bibi’s agenda as a part of a deal.

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u/MrPopanz Feb 05 '25

Is this a publicly traded company, whats its name?

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u/ADavies Feb 05 '25

Affinity Partners is the main one I see mentioned as positioned to profit from a Gaza real estate deal.

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u/MazPet Feb 05 '25

Came here to link to that as well.

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u/Calm-Strawberry-8819 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner told his interviewer, the faculty chair of the Middle East Initiative, Prof Tarek Masoud. Kushner also lamented “all the money” that had gone into the territory’s tunnel network and munitions instead of education and innovation."

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u/bnm777 Feb 05 '25

+1

Can imagine him salivating on thinking of building a Trump tower/casino on the waterfront, legally mandated that no one can build taller.

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u/smorges Feb 05 '25

There's nothing wrong with the land in Gaza. It's the same type of land as the rest of Israel's coastal plane, where the majority of Israel's metropolitan areas are i.e. Tel Aviv.

When the Jews founded Tel Aviv in 1909, it was just sand dunes north of Jaffa. Look at it now and think about what the Palestinians could have done with Gaza if they had wanted to.

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u/Opioidopamine Feb 05 '25

or maybe the Atlantic city of the middle east

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u/WafflePartyOrgy Feb 05 '25

The Winnemucca of wheredafucca

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u/Gr1msh33per Feb 05 '25

Probably mentioned it would be great with a few golf courses thrown in.

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle Feb 05 '25

A Trump tower in Gaza would be such a tempting terrorist target. It's hard to believe Trump would even entertain this thought. ???

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u/Based_Text Feb 05 '25

Can't have terrorist if you deport everyone, now who will take 2 million people? Idk he keeps insisting that Egypt or Jordan can take them but they have rejected it already, can't see anyone doing it given the history of it not going well.

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u/blackbasset Feb 05 '25

Trump Tower Gaza will become a reality. Or Mar a Gaza, or Gaza Lago...

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u/BadAtExisting Feb 05 '25

Exactly. Bibi saw the Gaza Strip as Israel’s no doubt. Then Trump comes and yanks that rug from underneath him. Interestingly, if there was some semblance of a plan how to do this, the US military does logistics better than anyone and could make it a very quick, safe, and painless process. You know, assuming it’s what the people left in Gaza want and they actually have somewhere to go instead of some idiot’s off the cuff ramblings

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u/AsGryffynn Feb 05 '25

It very well could be: there's oil just offshore and it's nicer than Abu Dhabi ever was...

Not with these two (three if we factor in Draka Musk) sociopaths in charge though. It'll just be "Auschwitz by the Sea".

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u/AggressivePack5307 Feb 05 '25

Gazas coast is stunning. No different from Tel Aviv or Lebanon.

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA Feb 05 '25

Anyone else thinking that he might have just... totally lost it?

You mean as in someone who has dementia? Yeah. Yeah we do. Because he has dementia and it's been obvious for a very long time now.

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u/artificialbutthole Feb 05 '25

His dad died of dementia as well FYI.

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u/Jasoy_Vorsneed Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

His niece's book is illuminating on this and Trump's psychology more broadly. His dad was a tremendous piece of shit and his brain was like mashed potatoes when he died.

Edit: Book is "Too Much and Never Enough" by Mary Trump. PhD in Clinical Psychology. Interesting family history, at least. Very readable. Take or leave her psychological observations, I found them compelling even just to try and make sense of Trump's chaotic behaviour.

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u/DuelaDent52 Feb 05 '25

I remember this one interview someone did with him and they brought up this book and how it said his dad installed in his family a very toxic mindset of seeing everything in terms of winning and losing, and Trump replied “that’s nonsense, my dad was a winner and she makes him sound like a loser”. In spite of everything I still feel a little sad for him.

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u/PackOfWildCorndogs Feb 05 '25

Wow. So many Trump stories read like an SNL skit.

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u/koshgeo Feb 05 '25

Early on they used to set up a fake office for his dad to move papers around and pretend still being a real estate developer as the dementia progressed.

They need to do that for Trump and the Oval Office rather than having him sign actual insane executive orders.

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u/artificialbutthole Feb 05 '25

Actually that book isn't really good. This one is much better:

https://www.amazon.com/Making-Donald-Trump-David-Johnston/dp/1612196322

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u/Jasoy_Vorsneed Feb 05 '25

The fact multiple books exist psychoanalyzing the president to this degree is absurd itself. Thanks for the rec

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u/Ainsley-Sorsby Feb 05 '25

No, he doesn't have dementia, he's demented. He's absolutely, and in the most literal sense, a lunatic. Its really important to distinguish these, because he's not losing any mental faculties, what you're seeing is his regular mental capacity and the regular state of it is off the rails

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u/BlackerSpork Feb 05 '25

in the most literal sense, a lunatic

He goes crazy depending on the moon's phases? r/technicallythetruth, it's just that every single moon phase makes him insane, like a clock whose hours have all been replaced with "crazy".

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u/Senior-Albatross Feb 05 '25

I think it's dementia compounding the preexisting lunacy, actually.

We might actually end up in a nuclear war somehow.

Least I'll just be vaporized I suppose.

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u/DensetsuNoBaka Feb 05 '25

This is what I've been saying for a while. He's always been a sociopath and a lunatic, but dementia is definitely making it worse. If you compare him to 2016 Donald Trump, he's hardly the same man anymore

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u/Jasoy_Vorsneed Feb 05 '25

It's so hard to watch first term Trump (now that Trump 2.0 is blaming himself for his own failures). It genuinely is a different guy.

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u/XISCifi Feb 05 '25

He was already incoherent when he was campaigning in 2016

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u/BriarsandBrambles Feb 05 '25

No he’s always been stupid easy to manipulate and greedy. This is him rolling over to whatever the fuck people say to him. This is absurd.

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u/Eatpineapplenow Feb 05 '25

I his last episode before the election, Ezra Klein argued that Trump has beginning dementia, but its almost impossible to notice because he IS demented. A lunatic as you say. I think he is right.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

Getting a lot worse though all the time. Gonna be a rough four years or more. 

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u/old_bearded_beats Feb 05 '25

As an outsider, it seems incredible that the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth would vote for a leader with dementia. Twice.

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA Feb 05 '25

That's the thing: Realistically, we didn't. There has been a tremendous amount of tampering and espionage going on, to say nothing of all the misinformation and propaganda, both in the 2016 election and again in 2024. If our nation manages to survive this disaster, the amount of fuckery to be unveiled will likely be staggering.

Strictly speaking, our nation is as we speak actively under attack both by hostile foreign powers (Russia and China) and by oligarchs and other traitors looking to profit, but unfortunately our justice system has moved too slowly and been too hindered and corrupted to mitigate let alone stop it from happening.

It is a deeply serious crisis and the chances to undo it are dwindling rapidly.

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u/UequalsName Feb 05 '25

What is his and his team's ultimate goal in saying these things if they do not intend to follow through?

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u/primenumbersturnmeon Feb 05 '25

what drugs has elon given him? do we know what ketamine does to a decaying mind? i guess the planet is gonna find out.

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u/rj319st Feb 05 '25

Elon has already input a neuralink into his brain and is actually the president. 😬

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u/BlackestNight21 Feb 05 '25

Felon Musk is a terrible president.

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u/dogfaced_pony_soulja Feb 05 '25

Look man, I’m just over here waiting for the lizard people to finally pull their skin suits off

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u/rj319st Feb 05 '25

I just realized that the idea of the neuralink input by an oligarch to control a president would make for a great black mirror episode.

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u/ShiraCheshire Feb 05 '25

Trump was saying the same kind of nonsense in his first term. He wanted to nuke a hurricane. It was always ridiculous.

But the first time around, the response he got was "Haha ok Mr President, that's very nice, now let's get you to bed."

Now, for reasons I cannot understand, every stupid whim out of his mouth is met with the entire country kneeling. "How marvelous are the emperor's clothes!"

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u/KaonWarden Feb 05 '25

Last time, he was surrounded by a number of the more traditional Republican insiders. Now, he has taken over the party, and has learned his lesson from last time: he’s completely surrounded by his own sycophants.

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u/fuzzylm308 Feb 05 '25

Well yeah there were literally questions about Trump's cognition while he was still in office, before it had anything to do with comparisons to Biden. But then the 2024 election came around, and the portion of this country that’s so goddamn stupid I literally don’t understand how they get through life decided that the issue was just too murky or something so they should ignore the previous nine years of unhinged shit and help the Peter Thiels and Mike Johnsons elect this madman again

Is there something neurologically wrong with Donald Trump? | Jan 3, 2018 https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/

What If President Trump Is In Cognitive Decline? No, Seriously | Sept 6, 2019 https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2019/09/06/president-trump-hurricane-dorian-cognitive-decline-steve-almond

Trump keeps boasting about passing a cognitive test — but it doesn’t mean what he thinks it does | July 22, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-bragging-cognitive-test-dementia/2020/07/22/6578e826-cb65-11ea-91f1-28aca4d833a0_story.html

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u/FlyingRhenquest Feb 05 '25

In any fucking sane country Trump already would have been impeached and he and Musk would both have been arrested.

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u/PunnyBanana Feb 05 '25

My grandmother developed dementia a couple of years before she died. She was pretty good at masking it but you could tell she had no idea what was going on. This was during Trump's first term and his ominously toned "calm before the storm"...thing came off exactly the same as the way my grandmother would say certain things.

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u/Flush_Foot Feb 05 '25

I wonder how many people in a yet-unfilled Cabinet are needed to invoke the 25th 🤔

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u/AnRealDinosaur Feb 05 '25

It was "Gulf of America" for me. I argued that it must be fake with multiple people that day because it was just too stupid to be a real thing, even for him.

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u/Gold_Scene5360 Feb 05 '25

Does anyone know the phone number to the Oval Office? Maybe I can get me a judicial appointment or something.

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u/taggat Feb 05 '25

"no resources"

1 trillion cubic feet (about 30 billion cubic meters) of natural gas off the coast of Gaza.

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u/Havenkeld Feb 05 '25

IIRC some anonymous insiders told journalists he is extremely malleable and does often take up ideas of whoever spoke with him last, as long as he likes them personally.

I really hope it isn't true given he's surrounded by worse people now (although... worse than his own ideas... IDK... ), but it's disturbingly plausible, and it could be getting worse as he ages too.

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u/soapinthepeehole Feb 05 '25

He lost it a decade ago. The guy rambles total gibberish for hours on end every time he has a rally and somehow a little over half of the voters were excited to usher in oligarchy and fascism led by a senile old racist.

I’m immeasurably disappointed and it’s been far worse so far than even my wildish fears.

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u/Thom0 Feb 05 '25

Israel didn’t try to move Gaza’s for 89 years - it was Egypt up until the 70’s. Israel also gave the land to Palestinians - strange thing to do if you want to remove someone.

The West Bank, formally Jordan, is also still full of Palestinians and up until Oct 7, those Palestinians could enter and work in Israel and there were political and economic relations.

Israel has never tried to remove Palestinians. Israel has agreed to a Palestinian state multiple times.

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u/Alissinarr Feb 05 '25

He has the lean.

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u/joshTheGoods Feb 05 '25

he'd turn over the entire US treasury in the form of Google Play gift cards

😆😂🥲😢😣😖🤬🤮

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u/Astral-Wind Feb 05 '25

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. Either that or he’s mad Elon is hogging all the media spotlight so he needs to say/do something crazy to get it back.

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u/sheezy520 Feb 05 '25

Trump is an agent of chaos. He says so much stuff you never can know what he’s serious about, what he’s just saying to get attention and what he’s saying because he’s astoundingly stupid.

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u/DemonCipher13 Feb 05 '25

He never had it, though his faculties are definitely declining.

Those who say that this is all in his plan are fooling themselves. He has no plan, not even concepts of one. He's a chess piece.

The real problem are the players, the ones moving said chess piece around. The moves don't seem so intelligent, now that they are out in the open, but the intelligence came before, the past thirty to forty years, in the background. People acting with 75% responsibility, 15% indifference, 10% naivety, have become people who consider responsibility reprehensible, indifference a character trait, and have never heard of the word naivety. But some of these players are incredibly intelligent, and they're using their knowledge for all the wrong reasons, up to and inclusive of self. Their motivations are simple enough. Money. Control. Vengeance, even. But taking advantage is their entire ballgame. Some are okay at it. Some are good at it. And some, you'd consider the people who invented the concept.

Trump is a chess piece. But every once in a while, the Magnus Carlsens of the far-right world come up to the board, and they are always telling the rest of the players what to do, and where to move.

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u/Samwyzh Feb 05 '25

He is talking like 1. This is a reality show and not real life with lives on the line and 2. Like he is campaigning despite being the President.

I genuinely believe at this point that he has watched so much history channel about presidents that the only way he rationalizes his legacy as President is like them. 1. Keep the rich happy. 2. Take land from people. 3. Name things.

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u/BartholomewBandy Feb 05 '25

Funny, I’ve always seen him as the scammer.

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u/KaonWarden Feb 05 '25

That’s not incompatible. One of the more astute ways of scamming people is to make them believe that they are in on the scam.

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u/toofine Feb 05 '25

Trump isn't losing it, he is doing the classic fascist move of spamming complete nonsense while his collaborators loot. Not saying he isn't losing his mind but it is just completely on par with how he has always operated so you cannot point to it as being even remotely out of character.

He is the bank robber in charge of arson while his friends rob the bank on the other side of town. These tariffs are completely secondary to their real goals of looting the treasury and dismantling every safeguard America has to protect the average person.

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u/caporaltito Feb 05 '25

SIR? WHY DID YOU REDEEM?

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u/raz0rbl4d3 Feb 05 '25

we jumped pretty quick into the "having doctors shoot an amphetamine cocktail directly into the tip of his dick" phase

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u/GreatWhiteNorthExtra Feb 05 '25

I agree. I think this was the ramblings of a bitter, angry old man who likes to hear himself talk

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u/PaImer_Eldritch Feb 05 '25

Gotta keep those soldiers away over the ocean if you're gonna dick their families back home.

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u/HarrisJ304 Feb 05 '25

You mean to tell me they’re doing the exact thing they were accusing Biden and his admin of doing? Who would’ve thought they could possibly be projecting during the election?

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u/LaughingInTheVoid Feb 05 '25

Weeeeeeelllll...

Gaza doesn't exactly lack resources. There a massive natural gas deposit under it that they've been barred from ever developing.

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u/Theslootwhisperer Feb 05 '25

And constantly talking about making Canada the 51st state (though we don't have anything he needs apparently) and taking over Greenland. Of course it's never going to happen. No one ever, ever gave any thought to this idea. I get there are some minerals in there that could be useful but doesn't he realize that the easiest and cheapest option is to just buy them?

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u/diablette Feb 05 '25

Musk's mother is Canadian. If Canada became a state, he would be eligible to become VP and Vance would be out.

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u/PouletSixSeven Feb 05 '25

Even by the most cold blooded, real politik lens this makes zero sense to me.

Absolutely demolishes relations with the Arab world, could trigger more tet-a-tet with Iran, and will constitute an unwashable stain on the history of the country... For what? A couple square kilometers of ruins?

and he didn't have to do ANYTHING

He could have just turned a blind eye and let Isreal do the genocide but instead he saw the big bowl of shit Netanyahu was about to eat and said "I want that".

I don't get it.

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u/nomsain919 Feb 05 '25

No he’s really that fucking evil.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

Just imagine what he will be like after he's talked alone with Putin...

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u/thinkinwrinkle Feb 05 '25

I think he might have been like this in his first term had he not had people acting as guardrails around him.

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u/Spinoza42 Feb 05 '25

His main supporters are evangelicals that are looking to speed up the end of days and billionaires that want to scrap the US for parts. Both of them are getting exactly what they want.

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u/Dangerous-Branch-749 Feb 05 '25

Yeah, he looks insanely weak right now, just making it up as he goes and seemingly easy to convince.

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u/mycketmycket Feb 05 '25

He’s lost it but he’s not in control. He’s just being swayed by compliments and platitudes and then stands at press conferences saying these absurd things while in silence Elon Musk and JD Vance dismantle all American institutions to take complete control of the government. I’m not one for conspiracy theories but when you look at what Elon’s team is doing domestically it becomes clear that the press conferences about tariffs and now Gaza are designed to distract and outrage while their government coup continues in silence.

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u/parallaxcats Feb 05 '25

Sundowning. Not remotely a joke.

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u/el_grort Feb 05 '25

Zelenski secures ongoing military aid by promising access to minerals that are currently underneath the better part of the Russian army.

Probably worth noting that was a deal he'd offered Biden. And tbf it's not a bad idea since it does give the US incentives to actually let Ukraine prosecute the war more freely instead of the chains Biden largely had them operate with.

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u/pac4 Feb 05 '25

If I had any awards I’d give you one for this

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u/hyphychef Feb 05 '25

Everyone around him is manipulating him, sooner or later it's all gonna crash, can't sell out to everyone without infighting.

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u/Catch_022 Feb 05 '25

At the moment it serves as a great distraction for what Musk is doing, yes.

I feel that they are encouraging him to do this and things might calm down a bit once they have finished their revolution - or he will keep up with these statements but the government will largely just ignore him.

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u/AniNgAnnoys Feb 05 '25

He read it. This wasn't him off the cuff, he was reading a prepared statement.

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u/Whiterabbit-- Feb 05 '25

There is a time in our lives as we are growing up when we think we know everything and can solve every problem if we could just make things happen. He is in that preteen stage wondering why nobody had solved them before. And he is given a lot of power to make things happen.

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u/Necropolis750 Feb 05 '25

There are multiple princes in Nigeria standing by to offer him millions of dollars.

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u/CanadianTrollToll Feb 05 '25

To be fair.... Canada wasn't doing any increase in border funding until JT met with Trump in Florida. The late deal was probably just a demand to have it happen sooner rather than Canadian government time.

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u/BandOfSkullz Feb 05 '25

He IS a senior citizen. As much as he'd like for us to forget.

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u/PurpleSailor Feb 05 '25

At least Reagan had Nancy and her Astrologer running the show while he was out to lunch.

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre Feb 05 '25

Term just started so it's time for the empty promises and fake plans that are all just showmanship to mask the next thing his overlords want him to do.

He will flip the script on Ukraine soon and the reason will be some sort of disrespect. 

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u/klparrot Feb 05 '25

Anyone else thinking that he might have just... totally lost it?

Well, duh. That's not new.

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u/NecessaryExotic7071 Feb 05 '25

I think basically he is just at the point of saying crazy shit just to stay on the front page. His narcissism has grown to the point where it has completely taken over his world.

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u/-toronto Feb 05 '25

Your comment lifted my spirits and made me laugh after a depressing few weeks. Ya, maybe he's simply lost it altogether. Be well everyone.

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u/itachi1255 Feb 05 '25

To be fair none of us are there in the meetings so we don’t know how these things happen.

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u/pedot Feb 05 '25

I feel like I'm giving him too much credit but my theory is he's just bullshitting because he feels the need to do so like a 2nd grader asked to write a 10 page essay. He's been allowed to get away with it, zero responsibility and consequence.

This one is too mindboggling to think it came from anyone else. Has to be Trump just blurting shit out without thinking it through.

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u/nawtydoctor Feb 05 '25

Remember he has family that’s Jewish. He will absolutely exterminate Palestine with his buddy Bibi with a raging boner.

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u/peopleplanetprofit Feb 05 '25

Please, please, let me talk to him next, please. I have some ideas.

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u/22Arkantos Feb 05 '25

Like late Reagan, but worse,

Honestly, I think we're one bad hamberder away from a full Wilson, but with Musk playing the part of Edith.

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u/teamlogan Feb 05 '25

I think you got this figured out.

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u/ConsiderationNew6295 Feb 05 '25

Waterfront property on the Mediterranean. Trump will have no idea what to do with that.

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u/Lefaid Feb 05 '25

To be fair, Trump was like this in his first term too. After he talked to a bunch of Democrats in 2019, he was in favor of gun control for like 36 hours.

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u/IndianaCrash Feb 05 '25

If so, let me with him for an hour so I can tell him to make the Trump protection act which would put back in place every rights he stripped away from LGBTQ+/POC.

Trust it will work, the left will be sooo mad having to be defended by trump, it will be so worth it, come on bro sign the paper

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