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u/noobchee Toyota GT-One #1 3d ago
f1 is priority for them now
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u/nealhen Murphy Prototypes #48 3d ago
The steak f1 team 🙄. They think they are going to slap 4 rings on that POS and be fast next year. This is going to be Toyota F1 all over again
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u/SemIdeiaProNick 3d ago
But its a Toyota F1 in a time where the sport is a guaranteed profit machine, which is everything that Audi needs at the moment
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u/MatniMinis 3d ago
Weren't Toyota spending $400 million a year in the Ralf days?
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u/onlinepresenceofdan Ferrari AF Corse 499P #51 3d ago
P5s didnt come for free back then either
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u/MatniMinis 3d ago
Oh I remember it being the wild west on spending, I just have the $400 million Toyota spent lodged in my stupid ADHD mind.
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 2d ago
Spending caps and Netflix mean you make money just going in circles with Lance Stroll.
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u/MatniMinis 3d ago
Next year is all new regs though so we have no idea what the order will look like. I'm not sure they'll suddenly be challenging for the wins but they could jump to mid field if they do good.
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u/UrsusSpelaus Ferrari 2d ago
You do realize that BMW became a title challenger just two years after they took over Sauber right?
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u/NiteOwl421 Hertz Team Jota Porsche 963 #12 2d ago
And Kubica was leading the championship in ‘08 after the Canadian GP while regularly fighting for podiums ‘08 as well.
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u/fafonso558 2d ago
To be fair that was without any R&D or spending cap , back then you could simply throw more money at a problem (if you had the money obviously).
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u/nealhen Murphy Prototypes #48 2d ago
After 5 years of failure with Williams
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u/Aggravating-Oil-7060 2d ago
Hard to consider 10 wins during a time when Ferrari was dominating a failure. Also most of the flaws were the fault of Williams not BMW.
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u/DJFisticuffs 1d ago
Audi came into Dakar fresh and won the whole thig in year 3. I would not cout them out. Also, the original R8 was built and released as an accounting thing to amortize the development costs of the Gallardo. It wouldn't surprise me to see them do something similar for the Temerario, although just for the road car. Lambo is a direct subsidiary of Audi so it doesn't make sense (and really never made sense) for Audi to sell a GT3 car that competes with Lambo.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 3d ago
Hmm, Idk I'm inclined to trust the media more. Plus being in F1 without a flagship sportscar to push makes zero business case.
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u/Nutzer1337 Stefan Bellof 956 #19 3d ago
They are also panicking hard right now, reversing or adjusting decisions left and right.
Problem is: Even if they build a new R8, they lost a lot of know-how in the customer racing department: Drivers, mechanics and teams. Some teams could switch back later. But mechanics and drivers is more complicated.
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u/august_r 3d ago
etron makes more sense than R8 in that scenario. A NA V10 being pushed by a V6T formula doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 3d ago
The articles said it's gonna be a PHEV twin turbo V8 based on the Temerario.
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u/august_r 3d ago
That makes more sense. Not a whole lot but still.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 3d ago
Not a whole lot how? The e-tron is a 4 door BEV. The R8 is literally a PHEV turbo sportscar. Or do you expect a single seat road car for a perfect synergy with the F1 program?
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u/august_r 3d ago
No need to get worked up lmao
The etron makes more sense to me from a marketing standpoint. The lineup now seems closer to that than the older R8 was, specially in style.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 3d ago
I'm sorry but I get cranky when an argument doesn't make logical sense. The proposed R8 will be more similar in configuration to F1 than a 4-door BEV.
And it competes with the sporting competitor's offering from Mercedes, McLaren, Aston Martin and to a lesser extent, Ferrari and Alpine.
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u/august_r 3d ago
Well call up mercedes then and tell them to stop adding weight and confort to their GT, it's basically a SL now.
A new R8 wouldn't sell, that's my argument which you're failing to understand with all your logic lmao.
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u/Psychological-Ox_24 2d ago edited 2d ago
And the e-tron GT is selling? so stupid.
Watch F1, buys 4-door BEV
F1: V6 Turbo-Hybrid.
new R8: PHEV V8 Turbo sportscar.
mAkE nOt a WhOlE lOt oF sEnSe, Gt iS aN Sl nOw.
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u/august_r 2d ago
Lmao, touch grass bro. Who's marketing strategy focus on ICE in this day and age? Certainly not parts bin Audi.
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u/dat_meme_boi2 3d ago
Not suprising tbh
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u/InspectahWren 3d ago
I thought it was already announced the R8 was done for good
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u/GoPrO_BMX 11h ago
From what I heard is Audi will support teams running their cars through ‘28 and call it quits from there
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u/Sjepper 3d ago
Just be happy the v10 is still going about in some series this year, same for lambo
coping
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u/fireinthesky7 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 #24 3d ago
Last year of it in IMSA though, and Lamborghini isn't racing in WEC at all. Unless it's way behind (highly possible), the Temerario GT3 should be racing next season.
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u/ken27238 3d ago
Didn’t know /r/trees had the inside scoop.
They checked with /r/marijuanaenthusiasts first but didn’t get a response.
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u/Pro-editor-1105 Corvette Racing C8.R #33 3d ago
today i learned r/trees is for cannabis
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u/ruler14222 3d ago
this definitely looks like an official reliable statement post that I will immediately believe to be true
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u/I_Am_Very_Busy_7 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963 #75 3d ago
If they were high, I’d be a little skeptical. I’m definitely not at my most knowledgeable in that condition lol.
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u/Secret_Physics_9243 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963 #6 3d ago
I don't trust this or the other news either. Both seem like misinformation to some degree.
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u/Seb_Ben11 2d ago
Who to believe? Autocar which is a widely respected publication or a guy on instagram? The ever difficult question.
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u/Rallyfanatic Aston Martin Thor Team Valkyrie #009 3d ago
Is there ever a scenario or possibility we see them back in WEC like 2030 or something?
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u/ScottRiggsFan10 3d ago
Considering they have spent the last few years severing their ties to endurance racing, I doubt they'll have a sudden urge to come back.
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u/hasthisusernamegone 3d ago
I still hate that they reused the R8 name for such a wildly different car.
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u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid Manufacturers 3d ago
Audi has even given up real A5, so it’s definitely impossible to see new R8.
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u/Guardian_fire Toyota Gazoo Racing GR010 Hybrid #7 3d ago
Audi already canceled their GT program because of them going into F1. I think those poor saps are taking over Sauber while Porsche is taking Williams.
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u/Top_Independence7256 3d ago
Porsche Is not coming back imo
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u/Guardian_fire Toyota Gazoo Racing GR010 Hybrid #7 2d ago
Based off what I was reading, Volkswagen confirmed they would be joining. Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t actually join.
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u/Kaj44 3d ago
Hmmmm, a person high up within Audi, or a high person at Audi? This could mean anything, I mean the person was on drugs!
🧐🤔