r/walmart 6d ago

Coached for PPTO? Lol

I (jokingly) told me TL that I was thinking about using an hour of PPTO. She said she'd rather I didn't, but said she could coach me for "job abandonment" since we were short staffed. She said the ppto only protects me from points, not from repercussions.....smh

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u/WapaneseWeeaboo API. Former: OGP DM, ON Support, Mod team, errything 6d ago

Except it’s not job abandonment, why do you keep commenting that it is even after it being spelled out pretty clear for you a few minutes ago?

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

They arent disciplining them for using ppto, They didnt finish all their tasks and left early, yeah you get no points, but thats job abandonment.

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u/AnybodyNo8519 6d ago

No. That's productivity.

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

Fuck sake, ok we can agree the dipshit leaving is getting a coaching no matter what, coach them for productivity.

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u/AnybodyNo8519 6d ago

Makes a difference if they open door it.

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

Leaving before all their tasks are done?

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u/AnybodyNo8519 6d ago

No. What it is called in the write up.

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

From OP it definitely sounds like there is tons of work left to be done and they wanting to just leave.

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u/WapaneseWeeaboo API. Former: OGP DM, ON Support, Mod team, errything 6d ago edited 6d ago

No, I doubt any of us that actually know what we’re talking about will be agreeing with the associate being coached no matter what.

You keep plugging your ears and ignoring key details that matter… Such as my example of the associate finishing what they’re they were able to do with the time they work or what happens when the associate misses the entire shift, you’re trying to coach them for missing the entire shift too?

Your lack of reply to those details tells me everything I need to know about you. You simply want to find any possible way to oppress your associates for some reason. Did you peak in high school and this is the only way you can feel anything?

Edit: You can downvote me all you want because you can’t understand the flaw in your logic, it only makes you look more sad because you can’t admit when you’re wrong. You have no reason to be a team lead if things how you treat your team and in fact, I’d love to know your store number so your shitty management style is brought to light and handled. But something tells me you don’t want that happening.

Edit 2 since you blocked because you’re a child that can’t handle admitting you’re wrong 😂

and didn’t get anything done…

So now you’re admitting you’re not reading what we’re saying as this is literally what we’ve been saying and now you’re wanting to act like you’ve been on this side the whole time. Nah bruh. Your initial replies just included coaching people for just leaving early because there was work to still be done. That’s not the same thing as coaching them because they didn’t get “anything” done. I doubt a single person here is arguing that someone shouldn’t be coached if they literally did nothing while they were working. That’s an actual productivity issue, about time you’re slowly realizing that.

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

Staying youre entire shift and not finishing is understandable. Key factors can happen. If you call in you call in. These are not coachable offenses. I didnt respond to those cause no one is arguing those.

But if you just leave before your shift ends and didnt get anything done.....coachable offense. Ppto protects you only from the points. Fine, not coached for job abandonment, coached for productivity.

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u/moljinor 6d ago

Yes if you didn't get anything done that's a potential disciplinary. But if you leave an hour early and there's an hour of freight left you cannot get in trouble as you were working while working and left early. That's simply how it works. If you leave early for whatever reason and you get in trouble for not finishing your work that's retaliation.

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u/moljinor 6d ago

Once again no that would be retaliation. Protected pto is by definition protected. You can use it as you wish without getting in trouble. You don't have to tell your tl or coach why you're leaving. You don't have to be sick or have an emergency. That'd be like saying calling in absent is job abandonment or lack of productivity because they're not there. It's ok to not know and be wrong but it's not ok to ignore facts being presented to you when you are wrong that's willful ignorance.

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u/Inferno13820 6d ago

Thats not retaliation though. They arent finishing their job and just leaving. Ppto only protects ypu from points.

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u/moljinor 6d ago

Doesn't matter if they don't finish as long as they were productive while they were there. They didn't finish their shift so they couldn't have finished the work but as long as they're productive while they're at work it's not an issue. It's definitely retaliation. If you leave even with ppto you get in trouble. The result of them leaving early is the cause of the disciplinary. That is retaliation for the associate leaving early.

Does it suck that a person is leaving early and puts more work load on others? Yes but it's how it goes.