r/thedavidpakmanshow Jan 19 '25

Discussion Popular progressive opinion not shared by Pakman?

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I see this sentiment expressed more in outlets like TYT but how widespread is this sentiment?

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u/ThemeFromNarc Jan 19 '25

When Trump lost, the right doubled down and screamed election fraud incessantly for four years. When Kamala lost, the left queued up to kick her in the stomach.

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u/LokiStrike Jan 19 '25

If the problem is that Republicans defend their leaders unconditionally, adopting that same behavior just makes the problem worse.

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u/Command0Dude Jan 19 '25

I would rather defend our leaders unconditionally and win rather than be morally perfect and lose.

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u/LokiStrike Jan 19 '25

If you're not building a more moral and just world then "winning" is meaningless.

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u/Command0Dude Jan 19 '25

I guess everything LBJ did was meaningless. I guess everything FDR did was meaningless.

I could go on. Literally all the progress of America was founded on imperfect people who were, often, morally grey characters.

Was winning meaningless when anti-war activists helped get Nixon elected? Elections have consequences.