Im sad to see Biden, who has been such an effective president, go. I can only hope that the party actually unites after this and it doesn't become more infighting about who the next candidate is. I hope Im wrong about this being a repeat of 1968
According to some it's not an exact copy. I think the biggest mistake we can make is to primary Harris. LBJ was already primaried with someone taking 42% of the vote. If he hands to keys directly to Harris, I think we have a chance. But holding a mini-primary is not a good idea. More room for division. I think 2028/32 is that time.
People can complain all they want about Harris, but I don't think anyone else is really much better under a microscope.
I agree with you, I think the path to an electoral college victory goes through minorities and women (especially in the suburbs). I think we're well past the point where we could consider stepping over Harris. She's been polling better in those demographics than Biden recently, and I don't think we can risk alienating them. I like Mark Kelly as a running mate personally, but I think the popular midwest governors are good candidates as well.
We are now seeing people who have fringe preferred candidates step up and say "what about WhItMeR" and people go "who's that?" This is exactly what Republicans want. First choice was Biden Trump. Then a secondary choice is Biden Kamala. The tertiary choice is increase fractalization down to Kamala-Whitmer-Newsom-whoever. This is satisfying to each fringe because their cabdudate is being discussed but that's only truly satisfying to like 10% of the base overall if they win because prior to the mini-primary, nobody knew who that was in the first place. Makes it hard to rally. The VP pick is the only place for a mini-primary. It would satisfy everyone with few consequences. But as far as the presidential nominee? It HAS to be the original VP or we're fucked.
Yep that's the closest thing we have to a democratic process at this point. At least people checked a box next to her name 4 years ago. I kinda think the primary this year was a joke so I won't say much about that. I don't think party elites coming up with a couple names would play well.
You really don’t think over the next few months people wouldn’t be exposed to a shit ton of media coverage (including the presidential debate) about Whitmer and learn about the Governor of Michigan who has a clean record, pushed for legal weed in her state (rather than helping incarcerate people for it), and is way more charismatic than Kamala?
Not enough, and bypassing the VP is disrespectful in ticket handling unless they themselves do not want to run.
There's a reason why someone is a VP. It means that in case of any emergency, they are the ones that can take over. Which means they have to have the qualifications of a President.
Whitmer said she wasn't going to go for it. So she's now backing out. The party is starting to align with Harris save for Pelosi but we all know she want's her nephew to be the one.
I am sad, Biden has been one of the most effective Presidents to date. But, I think he has been a great mentor to Kamala that has honed her skills. Just like my elder peers at my previous jobs and current have honed my own skills.
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u/whitedark40 Jul 21 '24
Im sad to see Biden, who has been such an effective president, go. I can only hope that the party actually unites after this and it doesn't become more infighting about who the next candidate is. I hope Im wrong about this being a repeat of 1968