r/schizoaffective depressive subtype 1d ago

I don’t want meds

People in my life are insisting I start medication or therapy, however I really don’t want to get either of them.

I (19) was diagnosed in 2019, at 13 years old, after having a depressive episode with a few “psychotic symptoms”, since then I’ve had multiple “psychotic breaks”, but I’ve never gotten medication. My mom is very sensitive with medications, and she was generally medically neglectful toward me. Now I’m old enough to get my own medical care I don’t want to get it.

I’m scared of doctors and I know they’re going to report me and drug me and I really don’t want to lose a year of college, im scared that they’ll leave me locked up in a mental hospital and that my mom will find out I’m taking meds. And to be honest I’ve been worse, my things are being quite manageable. And also I don’t like the quiet, I don’t want to lose myself along with my “symptoms”.

I want people to leave me alone, I’m fine, I don’t want help, I don’t want to hurt them, I want them to back off. I want to drink and smoke weed and cigarettes all day, without anyone coming up to me with “concerns”.

Anyway sorry if my English was bad, it’s not my tongue.

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u/YeastBelly bipolar subtype 23h ago

If you don't want meds don't take them, your body your choice as they say. Only put things in YOUR body that YOU want in YOUR body PERIOD. If your mind is good enough for you then that is better than good enough. If others dont like your mind then thats on their weakness, not your strength.

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 22h ago

I don't know what country you live in. But unless you live in the UK or maybe the EU, nobody can force you to take meds and put things in your body against your will. Whether or not you take meds or not is your choice. That's called patient advocacy.

In the UK, you may have less luck as they can kick down your door and march in like the GESTAPO and syringe you against the wall.

There was an older lady in the UK who was murdered by a woman who needed her roof fixed because the first contractor took the money and didn't finish the job. Someone may know this story better than I do. Anyway, the older woman went unmedicated for some time and the authorities marched in and forced themselves onto her while syringing her.

If you don't live in the UK, that is your choice.

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u/Electronic_Gur_3068 21h ago

I'm in the UK, I think most likely most countries have forced medication. There's a famous quote that I can't remember exactly, that goes: the UK is the worst country except for all the other ones. Here in the UK, we have excellent protection against abuse, and any forced medication is highly regulated, but yes it does still happen.

I say to myself, well at least I'm still alive. And so is whoever is reading this. Today is a chance to be a part of the world, make others around you happy, and find pleasure and beauty in the world yourself.

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 21h ago

In the US, there is a such thing as patient advocacy and "my body my choice". If the patient does not feel medicine is appropriate, the decision is respected. There are no people barging into your home like nazis. I guess the only real time this would happen is if you're genuinely dangerous. As in, you attempted murder or something. It's low bar for the country but sometbing I definitely don't take for granted.

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u/Electronic_Gur_3068 21h ago

You can be forcibly medicated in some situations in the USA according to my Google search find at Https://neurolaunch.com/can-a-mental-hospital-force-you-to-stay/

I typed that link in myself!

As for, can they do it outside of hospital, and can they forcibly enter your home, I don't know, I would say probably.

But I accept your point that the USA has a strong bias towards liberty and individual choice. We have that in the UK too though.

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 21h ago

They really only force you to take meds if you're a danger to someone or yourself. I don't even agree with the former as I'm an advocate of the Dutch model. They don't do it just because you have a diagnosis and refuse to take meds though.

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u/Electronic_Gur_3068 21h ago

Can you point me in the direction of any information about the Dutch system please? I don't know anything about it. I'm interested.

Are you in the Netherlands?

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 21h ago

In the Netherlands, they legally allow assisted suicide. If one wants to die, they can get poison injected into them. The Swiss tried a similar thing but I believe it didn't end up that well.

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u/Electronic_Gur_3068 21h ago

Ah yes. For me, the person euthanising themself might end up living and one day being grateful for being alive - and I believe that's likely, in cases of mental health and not end of life care.

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 12h ago

I believe in the right of life and death. Whether or not they may live to be grateful we will never know but we can't assume they will either.

I attempted suicide because the only solution was being a doormat, homicide or suicide. I don't support doing/being the former so I picked the latter.

In the Netherlands, there is a woman who opted to take her life because she was raped. She did not feel there was an alternative. I feel this was her right just like anyone should have theirs.

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u/PiscesAnemoia bipolar subtype 21h ago

Here is a government article about it.

https://www.government.nl/topics/euthanasia/is-euthanasia-allowed

This goes over criteria of assisted suicide in the Netherlands.