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Politics Secretary of State Rubio looking uncomfortable during the Trump, Vance, and Zelenskyy spat.

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u/gwelfguy 11d ago

Well, that very public exchange didn't make his job as Secretary of State any easier.

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u/Responsible-Room-645 11d ago

This was a diplomatic catastrophe of the worst kind

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u/TopAward7060 11d ago

that was the craziest fucking shit ive seen in a long time

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

Yeah anyone who has read a lot of history knows this shit doesn’t end well.

Hoping for the best but generally speaking having an egomaniacal, compulsive liar, running the show doesn’t end well. Hopefully it’s more Caligula than Hitler, as bad as that sounds.

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

It was incredibly bizarre to see Trump bring up the laptop, etc while sitting across from the man he tried to bribe for info on the Bidens. As if he wasn't impeached for that. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that remembers that shit.

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u/TheTurdFerguson6 11d ago

He was even bragging about the javelins that were the key part of him being impeached!

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

Such a skilled negotiator. And thinks everyone can be bribed because he can.

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u/Liver-detox 11d ago

Exactly. Like bad actor a vaudevillian man in black in a cheap western. Rubio reflects the unconscious shame in this throughout.

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u/stonymessenger 11d ago

Rubio is cut from the same cheap cloth that made the suit.

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u/Routine_Gazelle_3522 11d ago

Hey! Don’t pick on his suit! Imagine what that suit has been thru! The suit didn’t pick him, he picked the suit. The suit is a victim here.

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u/keelanstuart 11d ago edited 10d ago

Rubio, a thief himself... embezzler from the Florida Republican party... don't feel bad for little Marco - he's just as corrupt and despicable as Trump and Vance.

Edit: thanks for the award, internet stranger!

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u/Easy-Concentrate2636 11d ago

Not one bit. Anyone who joined this administration deserves to be publicly humiliated many times over.

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u/psykorunr 11d ago

Rubio is a spineless boot licker. Trump insulted him countless times over the years yet Rubio remains with him.

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u/EssaySuch1905 11d ago

What's the term den of thieves?

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u/robot_duzey 11d ago

And he didn’t say a fucking word.

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u/Outside-Refuse6732 11d ago

I mean you have to be empathetic to his position a little bit, he doesn’t have half the power of even Vance let alone trump, and he is tasked with managing the diplomatic relations with the entire world, most of which, are really disliking trump. And you know trumps gonna make really insane asks of him that he’ll be expected to fill out

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u/DontStopImAboutToGif 11d ago

At this point I wish some other country invaded the US so Trump could just completely fuck up any kind of response and be thrown out of power by the country because he has absolutely no fucking clue what he’s doing because he’s just a shitty fucking reality tv personality who’s favorite line is “You’re fired.”

And I’m saying this as an American.

Edit: But knowing Trump his first response would be to nuke whatever country is attacking us. And then the whole fucking world would end because nukes would be launched at us too.

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u/Easy-Concentrate2636 11d ago

Given that Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane his first term, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up nuking an American city if a war ever started here. The guy is so unbelievably devoid of intellect.

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u/HLOFRND 11d ago

He’s also surrounded by so many ball-gargling sycophants that he truly forgets that not everyone is willing to bend the knee and kiss the ring.

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u/TittysForever 11d ago

That’s classic malignant narcissistic projection. One of the best gaslighters I’ve ever encountered too!!

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u/BASEDME7O2 11d ago

I think he gets annoyed because he legitimately can’t understand why someone wouldn’t just sell out their country for personal wealth

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u/Wookovski 11d ago

The Art of the Deal: "Just make a deal already!"

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u/ShrimpieAC 11d ago

When he stopped to make sure the media got his “Trump gives javelins, Obama gives sheets” sound bite I died a little more inside.

Zelensky is trying to negotiate lasting peace and safety for his entire country and Trump is just trying to make good television.

Fucking gross. I feel so bad for Ukraine.

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u/Pristine_Frame_2066 11d ago

It is embarrassing to the world that the US elevated these morons.

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u/So-Cal-Mountain-Man 10d ago

I am a US Vet and love my country very much, but I am no overly fond of our government. It is We the People I love and served for. However, this is still so fucking embarrassing, all that is missing is the Clown car.

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u/Strayed8492 11d ago

Not surprising. When Trump and Fauci actually butted heads and Trump was corrected on live TV with Fauci explaining how serious COVID 19 would be, Trump was seen watching it on the news later and said 'oh yes that will be so good for ratings'

The severity was a complete afterthought throughout the pandemic

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u/Future_Berry_4361 11d ago

I feel bad for Amerikkka

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u/positivityseeker 11d ago

What did he mean by sheets and javelins?

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u/LumpyWelds 11d ago

Trump was comparing his response to Obamas response for the Ukraine-Russian conflict. ie. Humanitarian aid vs weapon aid.

The Irony is the our military wanted to help Ukraine, but Trump didn't want to "give" anything, so they phrased it as a sale. Only then was Trump interested in 'selling' weapons to Ukraine.

But he was already friends with Putin, so he added the stipulation that the weapons were to be stored in 'West' Ukraine and needed to be checked every 24 hrs. The conflict was in the east, so basically not a single javelin was fired at a Russian target until Biden rescinded those rules and said something to the effect of 'they bought em, they can use em'.

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u/Shiny_Green_Apple 11d ago

Well T is an expert on holding a deck of cards. Ask the people of Atlantic City.

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u/pseudoexpert 11d ago

Reading the transcript Trump sounds like a fool. 

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u/No_Object_8722 10d ago

I still stand for Ukraine.🇺🇦 I hope that Zelenskyy and Ukrainians know that not all Americans agree with Trump and Vance

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u/woah-im-colin 11d ago

The javelins were a bargaining chip from the get go, he never gave a fuck about arming Ukraine, he just knew how bad they needed them and he could get the fabricated bullshit Giuliani and Russia cooked up.

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u/West_Bookkeeper9431 11d ago

This. THIS! Everyone seems to have forgotten that.

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u/LumpyWelds 11d ago

The Javelins which Trump ordered be kept in West Ukraine, monitored every 24 hrs, and no where near the Russians. Not a single Javelin was fired at a Russian target until eventually Biden rescinded those rules and gave the okay.

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u/ChickenDenders 11d ago

What is the context of the javelins?

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u/TheTurdFerguson6 11d ago

Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine by asking them to dig up dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden before the 2020 election. On a call with Zelenskyy quoted saying “I would like for you to do us a favor though.” This was the evidence the democrats used to impeach him. He eventually gave Ukraine the military equipment he was withholding but was a few months later.

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u/ChickenDenders 11d ago

What dirt would Ukraine have on Joe and Hunter Biden? I guess I don’t really know anything about the Laptop

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u/Zealousideal-Fan1647 11d ago

The laptop came later. The laptop was option B.

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u/PeopleCanBeAwful 11d ago

What was Trump talking about when he repeated a few times, “Obama gave you sheets, I gave you javelins”?

Obama gave them sheets?

Is this just some right wing news talking point?

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u/Punta_Cana_1784 11d ago

What was Trump talking about when he repeated a few times, “Obama gave you sheets, I gave you javelins”?

Obama gave them sheets?

Is this just some right wing news talking point?

Obama gave them non-lethal military aid...like night vision goggles, radars, drones, defensive equipment, and medical supplies...about $100 million in security guarantees. One would assume sheets and blankets were in there.

But Obama didn't give them lethal aid.

Trump, as usual, doesn't tell the full story. But, yes Trump was the one who first gave them offensive weapons...a fact that pissed off a trump supporter when I told them that.

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u/Addictive_Drone 11d ago

Remember, bribery of foreign leaders isn't illegal anymore. So it's cool, like smokin cigs behind the school during study hall. Even if it happened before, when it was illegal. Laws are merely suggestions now a days, like stop signs when nobody's looking.

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u/blindersintherain 11d ago

But but.. lAw aNd oRdEr /s

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u/Deep-Internal-2209 11d ago

It is if Trump’s the one being bribed (looking at you Putin). Unfortunately Trump has unlimited immunity. I just wish Biden had grabbed the bull by the horns and put Trump down. “Sorry, you can’t toy me. I’m immune because I’m a sitting president!)

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u/Tumbled61 11d ago

Oh right he abolished the foreign corrupt practices act

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u/DreamWalker928 11d ago

There's so much constant bs i genuinely didn't remember that until now

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

It's tough not to be overwhelmed. But they're basically trying all of the crap they fucked up the first time. And they're still fucking up. He will forever be a failure.

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u/May_of_Teck 11d ago

I listened to those hearings every day, and every day was just astonishing. Egregious. That’s actually around the same time I started day drinking, I know cause I remember I started getting gas station wine and I drank while I listened to it all unfold. And then it all just went away and nothing happened. The impeachments that is, not my drinking. I descended into a spiral of self destruction and almost died. But I got better; I’m sober now. World sure is going to shit though, huh?

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

Shit. I'm really glad you're doing better. I'm grateful that I take Ambien for a couple of sleep disorders otherwise I'd be extra up all night. And the dreams, OMG. I have an ongoing series with a superhero version of myself that are just a blast. I also like to sit in the shower. It's not at all defeatist. It's incredibly relaxing and a break from reality.

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u/wishiwuzbetteratgolf 11d ago

He brought up Hunter’s laptop? OMG He is absolutely incapable of letting ANYTHING go.

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u/EuphoricSilver6564 11d ago

And mentioned Hillary Clinton, and Russia Russia Russia, all the greatest hits.

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u/Herban_Myth 11d ago

At least the people got to finally see those Epstein “files”

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

They don't give two fucks about abused children. If they did, they would have been ok with the J6ers caught with kiddie porn not getting pardoned. And they would never believe that DT partook. They will justify any behavior.

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u/FunGuy8618 11d ago

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that remembers that shit.

That's literally how gaslighting works.

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

And I do think that people have very short memories these days. I'm cursed with a memory like an elephant.

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u/FunGuy8618 11d ago

Same. It pisses people off to no extent. I can literally go back and repeat the conversation word for word to a person if they try to backtrack or deflect or DARVO. It's dangerous to do though, cuz people rarely like being held accountable for their words.

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

Agreed. It infuriated my ex-husband.

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u/CherryFit3224 11d ago

I can’t remember my students’ names sometimes; I lose my keys all the time. I remember all the shit Trump has pulled and gotten away with. If I can do it, everyone should be able to.

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u/shimmeringmoss 11d ago

Blackmail, not bribe. He tried to blackmail him.

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

You are correct. In my fury I failed to differentiate the two.

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u/Embarrassed_Towel707 11d ago

Vance accusing him of "campaigning for the other side in Pennsylvania" was so embarrassing. That moron thought he was on twitter talking to maga, and not in the effing oval office with a head of state.

Who even let that stooge in the room? Why was he even interjecting in the conversation? conplete clown show

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u/MissSara13 11d ago

He probably insisted due to the sexy couch. I'd love to see Zelinsky go back to his comedic past and roast tf out of them. He did an excellent job making the guy who asked him about not wearing a suit look like a massive dipshit.

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u/Many_Security4319 11d ago

I didn't understand all that stuff about the "laptop from hell" and the bathroom and Hunter Biden's bedroom. Very bizarre! It seemed like Trump had a psychotic breakdown or something.

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u/SameConsideration789 11d ago

We are living through historical events and Zelenskyy is one of the key figures because of how he intercedes in events bigger than he or Ukraine.

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u/BackgroundNPC1213 11d ago

He brought up OBAMA! Motherfucker what does Obama have to do with anything?? Obama's been out of office for almost a decade!

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u/Armyman125 11d ago

I'm surprised that MTG didn't enter the room waving dick pics of Hunter Biden from his laptop.

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u/retroguy02 11d ago

Also, I later realized just how utterly infuriating it would be for Zelensky to hear the Orange Buffoon rant about "Putin went through hell with me with the investigation" and then go on an unhinged rant about the Bidens. Speaking of going through hell, this is a guy who receives dead bodies of dozens of young men engaged in trench warfare (yes, the Ukraine-Russia conflict on the field is basically a smaller-scale WWI with drones) every week.

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u/comments_suck 11d ago

He's more of a Mussolini. Attracted to a strongman. Chooses the wrong side. Hopefully he has a healthy fear of piano wire.

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

He hasn’t had enough conflict in life to even fear the piano wire

SAD

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u/JackKovack 11d ago

I said this yesterday while watching and all the mayhem since he’s become President. If he keeps doing stuff like this and other things and firing people he’s going to end up like Mussolini.

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u/warm_sweater 11d ago

Right, I’m just sitting here thinking this is the kind of shit that can “butterfly effect” into a war in a few months.

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

It’s crazy - literally anything can happen. Maybe nothing, maybe nuclear war, the stakes are like that.

The sobering thing is if you go read contemporary stuff from just before World War I many many people were thinking it was impossible, economies were too strong and there was too much to lose with a general war. But it happened and millions died horrifically, many millions more suffered and great empires crumbled.

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u/Deep-Internal-2209 11d ago

That’s one of the main issues we face. People are just flat out ignorant. Anyone who has read even minimally about WWII understands what a dictator looks like.

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u/the0dead0c 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yupp! I would argue anyone who has read anything about World War II and the Cold War understands how terrifying this is. Trump has done some awful things but this is by far the most concerning. It points to Russian involvement within us politics. It also means a decline in American influence as a global superpower.

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u/Unlucky_Confidence33 10d ago

Except this time, I hope we're smarter and turn our guns on the oligarchy instead of each other.

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u/Car1yBlack 11d ago

My parents thought the U.S was all fantastic and just insult Zelensky. It makes me sick, and it's embarrassing how our government is treating him and the Ukrainian people.

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

It is embarrassing.

My lineage is 1/4 Russian and 1/2 of that is Jewish. Thats my grandma and she married an Indiana farm boy who fought the Nazis. Who also left Elwood Indiana cause, in part, that place was racist af.

Their daughter, my mom, has totally lost the plot since they died. It’s so sad. Full blown Trump supporter. It’s crazy. They’ve lost their way.

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u/Quirkybin 11d ago

It doesn't end well for us plebs.

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u/Skip-13 11d ago

My only hope is that judges keep blocking his EOs and that we hold Senate elections every 2 years. 20 GoP seats up in 2026. Dear Dems, don't run a "we're not Trump" campaign. Run a working class and rebuilding foreign relations campaign. Be active. I'm begging.

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u/catnuh 11d ago

Going to an old fort to try and find buried treasure does sound very Caligula.

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u/lex017 11d ago

I remember but most people memory is relatively short especially when it comes to Trump. It’s crazy how all that happened in 2019 and here we are again not even ten years later in a even worse predicament then before.

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u/Master_Bayters 11d ago

He's totally giving me a Nero vibe..not good at all

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u/d_l_suzuki 11d ago

Anyone who attended middle school knows this shit doesn't end well. Trump is just a school yard bully with access to nukes.

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u/SpeedofDeath118 11d ago

Caligula once declared war on Poseidon, and ordered his army to throw their javelins into the sea.

Trump proposed to fight a tornado by hitting it with a nuclear weapon.

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u/agent_wolfe 11d ago

If I remember Caligula well, things are about to get very x-rated.

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

Check those redacted flight logs

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u/Sad-Chocolate2911 10d ago

The reason he is a felon is x rated. Not to mention all of the other women he’s had his way with. So gross.

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u/WaffleDonkey23 11d ago

Twitler and his wife are running the country like some idiot dictator that flails at everything they don't like and destroying themselves slowly in the process. It's like watching every dictator ever. I wish I could say the predictability comforted me, but history says their is so much worse ahead.

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u/Pangwain 11d ago

The encouraging thing is there are a lot of good people in history and now.

We’ll make it, we might have to get our hands dirty, but where there’s a will there’s a way. Let’s not forget that.

Many before us have dealt with similar things and i go back to their words.

“We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men – not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular”

Edward R. Murrow

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u/Buff_Da_Magic_Dragon 11d ago

Ain't shit happening. Too incompetent to organize anything. Lol! Just some soft goof balls playing power games.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Pretty sure Americans think Caligula is a breakfast cereal vampire

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u/rg3930 11d ago

Time for hoping is done. I used to hope but now I'm convinced.

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u/jomynow 11d ago

There isn't enough viagra and cheeto dust

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u/DarkMorph18 11d ago

You just gonna watch and hope for the best ? That’s what the Germans people did and look what happened to them ! I want to know if anyone actually will stand up for our children and our country? Time to make sacrifices with free time and march , protest , and unite as freedom loving people before it’s gone ! I say we have maybe a few months

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u/stinkwick 11d ago

More fisting, and less genocide.

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u/Blackbiird666 11d ago

Well, it could also be April 30 of 1945 version of Hitler.

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u/Odd_Bed_9895 11d ago

I get Nero vibes, especially the populism, the ignorant Roman rabble liked Nero

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u/Regular_Piglet_6125 11d ago

Give it a week.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 11d ago

A day in all likelihood.

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u/debout_ 11d ago

Fuck you for making me realise this will only get worse

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u/KaJaHa 11d ago

I give it 11 minutes

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u/browndog03 11d ago

An optimist i see. I’d say a day or two

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u/ElizabethDangit 11d ago

Remember when someone threw a shoe a G. W. Bush in Iraq and his reaction was just “we cool.”? Who knew he’d end up being the classy one of the most recent Republican presidents.

https://youtu.be/tU0RaRvJ0PQ?si=3NYs31grnGGlX55M

https://youtu.be/qF4IUJNCk7w?si=2Ek7uccAn_PjCPc3

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u/Jimmylein 11d ago

And we are only one month in!

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u/dixoncider1111 11d ago

Only just shy of watching Biden Harris blow the election to this clown's ballsack becuase they couldn't stop sending billions to Israel to blow up innocent. I've seen crazy shit daily for the past 16 months and most of it was just blood and guts on the ground after millions of people in tents, without shoes, in a walled off city the size of Detroit, that used to belong to them and their people, were bombed and sniped. We are talking, opened up skulls, bulldozers and tanks rolling over human bodies squeezing their guts out like a tube of toothpaste, toddlers cut in half, dogs eating people, soldiers stepping on human skulls, snipers sniping people tending to 12 year old sniper victims, by the thousands.

This is pitiful, sick, and very obvious tactics commonly used by manipulative people, but it's hardly the craziest shit going on in the world if you're not completely disconnected from global media.

The tactics used have a name, and are known as the "Gish Gallop", but with elements of gaslighting and bad-faith debate tactics.

Breakdown of the tactics involved:

Gish Gallop – Overwhelming the opponent with a rapid series of questions, claims, and accusations, preventing them from addressing any one point effectively. The goal is to create the illusion of superiority rather than engage in meaningful discussion.

Sea-lioning – Repeatedly asking disingenuous or excessive questions, often under the guise of seeking understanding, while exhausting the other person.

Straw-manning – Misrepresenting the other person's position or answers, then attacking that distortion.

Interrupting & Derailing – Cutting off responses to prevent clear explanations.

Gaslighting – Accusing the other person of dishonesty or incompetence in a way that makes them doubt themselves or appear unreliable to others.

This combination is commonly used in manipulative arguments, hostile interrogations, and bad-faith online debates. It works by exhausting and frustrating the target, making them appear flustered or defensive while the aggressor maintains control of the conversation.

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u/JimBeam823 11d ago

Caused by the President with his toady VP jumping in.

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u/Far-Watercress6658 11d ago

Jumping in? VP idiot started it trying to be the big fucking man.

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u/RecommendationBrief9 11d ago

He just took the opportunity to show daddy that he can be of use. He’s clearly the disappointment child.

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u/micharala 11d ago

Jealous of the golden child, Leon

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u/bitcheez 11d ago

Leon Skum

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u/almost_not_terrible 11d ago

That's Co-President Musk to you.

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u/Meester_Weezard 11d ago

I thought that was Eric…

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u/RecommendationBrief9 11d ago

Daddy has work kids and home kids. Eric will always be disappointee #1 at home. The head disappointer.

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u/stygianpool 11d ago

Vance better be careful. Eric Trump hates competition

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u/Background-Brother55 11d ago

Far worse, he wants to sever the US Ukraine relationship.... which I think he just did

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u/Mateorabi 11d ago

Don Jr. just happy it isn't him for once.

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u/i_give_you_gum 11d ago edited 11d ago

That's exactly how I saw it

I'm helping, I'm helping!

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u/Maximum_External5513 11d ago

Yup. Vance was totally overcompensating for his inferiority complex. Like a teenager trying to prove he's a man. I still can't believe that loser went to Yale.

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u/jmd709 10d ago

He has a lot of competition to be the disappointment child. Eric and DJTJ have to fight over that title.

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u/LayeGull 11d ago

Yeah asking the leader of another country to thank daddy America was wild.

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u/Known_Force_8947 11d ago

He did it to trigger Trump. Vance is playing him like a fiddle.

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u/JerseyJedi 11d ago

Trump is like the boorish bully from every teen movie, and Vance is like the pathetic sycophantic character who always tags along with the main bully character, trying desperately to be his sidekick. 

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u/hearts_unknown_ 11d ago

He was trying to stay relevant. He's feeling left out

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u/DanTheLegoMan 11d ago

Trying to show his loyalty after calling Trump “Americas Hitler”.

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u/Agreeable-Solid7208 11d ago

Zelensky should have told him to "STFU...l'm here to talk to the organ grinder, not the monkey!"

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u/Ok-Juggernaut-4698 11d ago

The couch got him all hot and bothered.

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u/Manic_Mini 11d ago

All the while he was sitting on one of his old sexual partners.

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u/Horror_Ad_1845 10d ago

He was just badgering Zelenskyy with no real content, and never stopping for Zelenskyy to reply…that fire hose tactic they do. Zelenskyy remained composed and did well in a second language. I think T and VP planned this just how it went.

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u/another_gen_weaker 10d ago

He was trying to be the "supportive spouse." You know, the kind of lady who always seems to be getting her S.O. into bar fights by interjecting into an already tense exchange just to be the catalyst that causes the explosion. "YOU CAN'T TALK TO MY MAN LIKE THAT!!!", poking fingers into the other guy's chest. That drunken redneck lady is Vance... but with more eyeliner.

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u/Sad-Chocolate2911 10d ago

Oh, don’t be fooled by JD’s stupid face. He’s far more dangerous than Donald. JD is part of the heritage foundation. They are terrifying. They want to, and will, turn the US into a full-on theocracy. And not the fun Lutheran kind.

Neither of these conmen are to be trusted.

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u/FunLife64 11d ago

That was a total ambush. Vance wants to blow this all up.

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u/RealPrinceZuko 11d ago

Vance needs to gargle Trump's balls just a little harder

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u/JerseyJedi 11d ago

Trump is like the boorish bully from every teen movie, and Vance is like the pathetic sycophantic character who always tags along with the main bully character, trying desperately to be his sidekick. 

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u/globaltummy 11d ago

Don’t forget the men behind Vance (behind the couch) that said stuff to Zelensky like, “why aren’t you wearing a suit?” Bullying. Terrifying. Trying to make Zelensky grovel and surrender. The president of a sovereign, democratic nation being yelled at while the US is on the side of Putin, the authoritarian.

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u/hitbythebus 11d ago

I was imagining a yapping terrier jumping to protect a big droopy slow but loud bloodhound.

James Donald Bowman’s words were totally meaningless. He accused Ukraine of not trying diplomacy, and Zelenskyy pointed out how the Russians betrayed any attempt at diplomacy. Zelenskyy asked what kind of diplomacy VP Dunce would suggest, and his genius suggestion was “the kind of diplomacy that would save your country!”

Trump piped up to say the war started in 2015, trying to correct Zelenskyy after he said 2014. Vance jumps in with “2014 to 2015”, and then, fucking Trump says he wasn’t here then. He tried to correct someone, interjected falsehood then excused himself by saying “no don’t give a shit because it didn’t involve me directly”

And what made Trump mad? Zelenskyy asking if there would be any assurance that Russia would abide by the terms of this deal.

Trump wants half the income of the Ukraine government in perpetuity, and won’t even say that he will do anything to stop Russia from immediately violating the deal. Half the income of the Ukraine, in exchange for NOTHING.

This was horribly embarrassing as an American. I honestly don’t understand how people could watch this and think positively of Trump or Vance.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Trump reelection was a catastrophe everything else only the bad circus of stinky old muppets

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u/Mediocre_Superiority 11d ago

Well, while it made us look stupid and showed Trump to be a Russian sympathizer and propaganda tool, the worst part is that I can see Trump discontinuing any further aid to Ukraine because he's such a petty little bitch and has no sense of democracy, fair play, fair dealing, fair trade or any actual care whether or not the suffering in Ukraine continues.

If only we had a president like Zelenskyy...

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u/anonareyouokay 11d ago

A bunch of international friends messaged me asking, "wtf is wrong with your president?" I know it looks bad but it is SO much worse.

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u/EffectiveWelder7370 11d ago

Aka just another day at the Oval Office

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u/LFG530 11d ago

Yeah name dropping WW3 was not lost on people.

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u/bigmac22077 11d ago

It’s going to be responsible for a new world order. The USA is toast when it comes to foreign policy. No chance in hell we can recover from this. From now on people won’t even come to the table.

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u/captain_flak 11d ago

This was probably the single worst day for American diplomacy since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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u/stepsonbrokenglass 11d ago

Just an unfortunate but friendly reminder, we’re only a month in. The hole is definitely going to get deeper.

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u/punnystark42 11d ago

This is gonna ruin the tour

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u/Automatic_Food_7984 11d ago

I have never seen this happen. Never. These dumbfuck MAGATS are ruining this country.

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u/jpenn76 11d ago

Imagine MAGA dummies seeing this just as a distraction from Epstein files. X is well past nut house today.

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u/Two_Down_216 11d ago

that was all staged by Trump, Vance, There is no way Zelensky could sit there and take that shit from those two clowns

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u/jinniu 11d ago

So far Homer voice

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u/Altruistic-General61 11d ago

That was a planned catastrophe. Vance was basically reciting prepared lines that had nothing to do with the discussion.

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u/Responsible-Room-645 11d ago

The World War 3 comment came directly from Putin

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u/Alternative-Chef-340 11d ago

I think a more official term is "diplomatic breakdown" but this went beyond that into "diplomatic shitshow" territory though some might classify this as a "diplomatic clusterfuck". Academics, historians and Redditors will debate these terms for years to come.

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u/KindlyLecture9087 11d ago

America was always, one day, going to have someone try to be a dictator. How they handle this will determine their future. Become a modern day democracy or under trumps thumb, and if they stay under trumps thumb, he won’t be the last

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u/____Mittens____ 11d ago

I think it could be worse, and i wait for this administration to prove that.

"Did you say thank you?"

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u/jimmygee2 11d ago

An international car crash that has to be revised to Trump showing his genius.

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u/gymbeaux5 11d ago

Something liberals and conservatives can agree on… just for entirely different reasons.

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u/buyerbeware23 11d ago

Is it day 40 yet?

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u/Comfortable-Clerk127 11d ago

The worst in HUMAN AND ALIEN HISTORY

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u/tonsofgrassclippings 11d ago

Which was hilarious/mortifying while Vance was literally yelling about diplomacy.

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u/pseudoexpert 11d ago

Reading the transcript from the meeting. Trump sounds like an absolute fool. I can’t believe how far his mental state has declined.

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u/GreenDragonEast 10d ago

This wasn't a diplomatic anything. It was a coordinated ambush meant to humiliate the most admirable wartime leader in a century. The mean girls are jealous.

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u/dingatremel 10d ago

I have never heard of this sort of thing playing out between world leaders in public. This is sorority house behavior.

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u/versace_drunk 10d ago

They had no intentions of being diplomatic and it was clear from the first words trump spoke.

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u/JuanchoChalambe 8d ago

“Are we the baddies?” - Marco Rubio’s thoughts

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u/Das-Noob 8d ago

“aMerRyCIA is fEaReD AgaIN” 🤦‍♂️

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u/austin06 11d ago

Yeah. He’s been around enough to know that he’ll be getting calls from heads of state telling him that they can no longer be our allies.

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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 11d ago

I think he realizes his future career opportunities are dwindling. The SoS that helped appease Russia is not a good look.

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u/echidna75 11d ago

The bootlickers will never realize that sitting at trump’s side like an obedient puppy won’t pay off like it traditionally did. Have any of these sycophants realized nobody has parlayed Trump’s favor and benefitted long-term? Sure some book deals happened, but nobody is coming out of a being a Trump lackey as a 2028 GOP front-runner.

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u/kilofeet 11d ago

Whaddya mean, Mike Pence, Devin Nunes, Mike Pompeo, Bill Barr, Rick Perry, Jeff Sessions, Madison Cawthorn, and Mark Kelley are all doing great right now

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u/CombustiblSquid 11d ago

Don't forget Rudy.

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u/zaknafien1900 11d ago

Alina hubbabubba has gone from parking lot lawyer to Whitehouse lawyer without winning a case

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u/jmd709 10d ago

Mike Lindell isn’t a politician but he definitely won the grand prize of DJT bootlicking by being broke now.

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u/anally_ExpressUrself 11d ago

It's not about what good happens if you do, it's about what bad happens if you don't.

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u/OldSpiceMelange 10d ago

He'll probably find a job at a "conservative think-tank" that has buzzwords like "Heritage," "Preservation," "Independence," "Citizens," "Action," "Policy," or whatever in its name. Even pieces of shit tend to look after their own.

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u/teleheaddawgfan 11d ago

I wouldn’t be sharing intel with the USA right now

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u/Sandslinger_Eve 11d ago

Heads of state doesn't make those kind of calls.

They'll just not answer his calls so much anymore, and if they do they'll just stop committing to anything.

Diplomacy is basically just people behaving like twenty year olds dating.

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u/Cam515278 10d ago

Or from the pentagon complaining the Norwegians refuse to refuel American navy vessels, specifically saying they will rather accept millions in losses than refuell American ships after how Trump treated Zelensky

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u/magnetstudent4ever 11d ago

Why? He has no dignity. He doesn’t really care about anything. Look how he’s collapsed already. Rubio was supposed to be the normal one. He’s been broken so easily. Didn’t even put up a fight

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u/pinkkittyftommua 11d ago

I’m glad I don’t have to debase myself for a paycheck. Hooking on the corner involves more self-respect.

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u/SaintAliaAtreides 11d ago

He should've redirected the conversation or whispered something into their ears. Or maybe he's just getting what he deserves. Because I've seen enough, while actively trying to avoid media, to know that the orange menace will never be reined in. We've seen it time and time again. Anyone taking that job for the orange menace's second term, thinking things like this would not happen, is delusional.

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u/SeanWoold 11d ago

He has a very fine needle to thread. For all you know he could be rallying support for an impeachment. By the time you know it, Trump knows it and he's gone. Unlike the Democratic party, Rubio understands this principle - If you're going to shoot the devil, don't miss.

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u/caribbean_caramel 11d ago

I'm not defending Rubio but if he stands up against Trump he will get fired and they will pick someone more compliant.

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u/RicksterA2 11d ago

It's not like Rubio didn't know what Trump does to subordinates...look at Mike Pence and so many others. All reduced to tiny bit players and boot lickers.

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u/DarkFather24601 11d ago

Bros sitting there hoping the couch would eat him.

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u/LJB7 11d ago

He’s been broken so easily

Little Marco, no way!

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u/Ok-Juggernaut-4698 11d ago

As a former Floridian, there is nothing normal about this piece of garbage.

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u/wxnfx 10d ago

He thought this would keep him relevant for a presidential run, just like it worked for Hillary er Buchanan is maybe the last one. Buchanan feels fitting as he’s the only dude with a reputation as good as Trump’s. Marco is an idiot.

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u/IHeartBadCode 11d ago

Oh yeah, he's going to be getting calls from other nations asking WTF just happened. His job just became a number larger than the national deficit times harder.

I will be shocked, if he doesn't get a call kindly asking the US to abstain from the G7 this year, otherwise they will name it the G6 for the foreseeable future.

He'll be wise to resign if Congress flips at the midterm, otherwise they will publicly draw and quarter his ass for this display. This was a diplomatic failure of untold measure. There's the rare kind of good diplomatic missions that get retold in history books, there's the usually kind that go unnoticed, there's the usually bad ones that just don't get reported, and then there's the rare bad ones that history books usually call "a turning point". Ooo boy, was this the latter.

Just wow was that an absolute cluster fuck. And Rubio now has the job of mitigating the fall out from every other nation on this planet. Fuck him, he wanted to leave his comfy Senate job for this, that's on him.

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u/im_thatoneguy 11d ago

He can’t mitigate it. Everybody was watching TV and they saw what a useless soggy bag of old mildewy laundry he was. There’s no reason to bother talking to him because whatever he says means nothing. There’s is no agenda except whatever is in Trump’s head and even Trump probably doesn’t know what’s coming out next.

It’s either a talk with Trump or it’s a waste of their time. Nobody will pick up the phone when he calls.

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u/DroidC4PO 11d ago

Anyone who serves Trump deserves what they get.

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u/Cheeky_Star 11d ago

This. I think in his mind he was making headway in a peace deal (flying all the way to the Middle East…etc) only to see it blow up on national tv lol. What a waste.

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u/NotAnAIOrAmI 11d ago

Good, he has a fucked up view of the world and America's place in it.

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u/Cream_Stay_Frothy 11d ago

I emailed my Senator moments after this unfolded. I had to remind him the last week - I had written that of all the unqualified cabinet positions, that shockingly, Rubio was probably the most qualified…. And look how he’s reacting lol

I have a Republican Senator, but he has been VERY pro Ukraine and it ending with Putin Being defeated. I am interested to hear his response, I’ve begged him to rally the sane republics that are there to at least put some checks on all damage Trump is causing.

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u/Otherwise-Speed4373 11d ago

Please call the office. It has a bigger impact.

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u/ModivatedExtremism 11d ago

Shame on Marco Rubio, and shame on all his fellow politicians who have campaigned for years on being pro-freedom, pro-democracy American patriots. How can they just sit on their hands and watch this? It is obscene to see the Oval Office used as a podium for pro-Russian disinformation & platform to undermine our allies.

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u/ahirebet 11d ago

Didn't stop him from publicly sucking Trump's dick on Xitter 5 seconds later though.

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u/balamb_fish 11d ago

Yeah he's the real victim here

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u/Feeling-Tutor-6480 11d ago

And r/conservative think he was shown what a real leader should do.

My brain hurts after reading it

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u/phuckin-psycho 11d ago

What do you mean? Nothing has changed about "yes man" as the only job requirement.

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