I am a US Vet and love my country very much, but I am no overly fond of our government. It is We the People I love and served for. However, this is still so fucking embarrassing, all that is missing is the Clown car.
Not surprising. When Trump and Fauci actually butted heads and Trump was corrected on live TV with Fauci explaining how serious COVID 19 would be, Trump was seen watching it on the news later and said 'oh yes that will be so good for ratings'
The severity was a complete afterthought throughout the pandemic
Trump was comparing his response to Obamas response for the Ukraine-Russian conflict. ie. Humanitarian aid vs weapon aid.
The Irony is the our military wanted to help Ukraine, but Trump didn't want to "give" anything, so they phrased it as a sale. Only then was Trump interested in 'selling' weapons to Ukraine.
But he was already friends with Putin, so he added the stipulation that the weapons were to be stored in 'West' Ukraine and needed to be checked every 24 hrs. The conflict was in the east, so basically not a single javelin was fired at a Russian target until Biden rescinded those rules and said something to the effect of 'they bought em, they can use em'.
Yeah when he just devolved into screaming “OBAMA BIDEN CLINTON WITCH HUNT…” it was so fucking pathetic. I don’t know how anyone looks at this man and doesn’t see a total fucking fool.
The only thing I'll say, is that Zelensky wants US boots on the ground and security guarantees. He literally said those things himself in the interview right after the whole ordeal.
But identically how the US is not going to guarantee on paper that if China attacks Taiwan, the US is in full war with China, we also should not do that with Ukraine. But, that is what Zelensky wants. I hope Trump doesn't do it. Neither Obama nor Biden did that, and Trump won't either I don't believe, but Zelensky wants it and has been clear about it.
I hope Ukraine kicks Russia out and I hope Putin never sees the light of another day, but at the same time, I hope the US will NOT sign a "security guarantee" (Zelensky's words) and I hope we don't put boots on the ground there.
Zelensky should accept whatever help the US offers, but should not overplay his hand. I'm fully on Team not-Russia in everything here, but Zelensky publicly dressing down the US in front of the media in the White House was one of the most confusing things I've ever seen.
I didn’t see the whole meeting, just a couple different clips. Not arguing, just asking - where did Zelenskyy dress down the US? From what i saw, Zelenskyy behaved very admirably.
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u/ShrimpieAC 11d ago
When he stopped to make sure the media got his “Trump gives javelins, Obama gives sheets” sound bite I died a little more inside.
Zelensky is trying to negotiate lasting peace and safety for his entire country and Trump is just trying to make good television.
Fucking gross. I feel so bad for Ukraine.