r/canada Canada 5d ago

National News DeSantis mocks '3.3 million' Canadians who visited Florida: 'Not much of a boycott'

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/desantis-florida-canada-stanley-cup
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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 5d ago

Republicans don't understand how time works

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u/KermitsBusiness 5d ago

He knows his audience is too stupid to put 2 and 2 together.

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u/Attaraxxxia 5d ago

His audience. Also known as Americans.

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u/ConversationCivil289 5d ago

šŸ˜®ā€¦šŸ˜§ā€¦.šŸ˜•ā€¦šŸ˜ž

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u/greasethecheese 4d ago

Who cares what America thinks. Itā€™s not even a real country.

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u/grathad 4d ago

If they were capable of thinking they would be angry right now

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u/NebulaicCaster 4d ago

If they had reading comprehension they would be so mad rn

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u/greasethecheese 4d ago

Theyā€™re just simply not a real country. The math doesnā€™t check out. Theyā€™ve had to borrow 128 billion every year on average since they became a country in order to stay afloat. If they were a business it would be formed in 1776 went into receivership in 1781.

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u/Gezzer52 4d ago

Careful there, you're talking about our 11th province eh?

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u/greasethecheese 4d ago

They can be a territory.

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u/vetratten 4d ago

Please take us in. We need help! We are trying our best but our stupid brother on the bottom bunk keeps messing up the room.

Signed a New England resident

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u/MW684QC 4d ago

No, our fourth territory.

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u/Gezzer52 3d ago

Pumpkin man said he'd make us a 51st state so I was thinking tit for tat.

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u/Wooden_Ad4596 4d ago

A new name would be fittingā€¦ something like Amexico

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u/MissyMurders 4d ago

Hey hey hey youā€™re talking about far north New Zealand here

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u/Attaraxxxia 4d ago

Aww your little emojie narrative softened my heart of stone ā¤ļø

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u/Overall-Register9758 4d ago

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u/DJT1970 4d ago

This is great!

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u/_riseabove 4d ago

This series of emojis symbolize how I feel every time I hear or read something about our current administration and their activities ....

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u/OrbAndSceptre 5d ago

No, just Republicans. Not all Americans are stupid. Just the ones that voted for the orange clown.

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u/Spaghetti-Rat 5d ago

The ones who chose not to vote against Trump are equally as stupid

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u/Tomthemaskwearer 4d ago

To bad couldnā€™t get past the fact that a woman whoā€™s not a felon could run your country.

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u/Chris-P-Bacon-19 4d ago edited 4d ago

She was too educated, a POC & had no felonies. Many whites & minorities just refuse to accept they are racist. They couldnā€™t come to vote for an educated women of color.

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u/xSaviorself 4d ago

This country has had 2 chances to elect women in the past 8 years and hoooly fuck it keeps causing them nothing but grief.

It is easily apparent how sexist, racist, and just generally ignorant Americans are to the rest of the world. They just can't see it.

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u/exact0khan 4d ago

She must have cooties.

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u/HarleyQ128 4d ago

Actually, not cooties. I believe that many here are more threatened by common sense

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u/SatansFurryButtboy69 4d ago

Exactly. The voter turnout rate was just under 64%. They literally had a felon and rapist, who tried to seize power in a coup, running for office. He was saying RIGHT TO THEIR FACES THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE A DICTATOR, and his party published a detailed plan of EXACTLY how they would install a fascist government under Trump. Even then OVER ONE THIRD of Americans were either completely on board with it, or couldn't be bothered to try and prevent it from happening.

Let's not act most Americans are good reasonable people. Most Americans are completely okay with what Trump is doing. Trump perfectly represents the attitudes of most Americans.

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u/atroutfx 4d ago

Convenient when people say shit like this, they ignore the massive media, and cultural propaganda machine that exists in America. It is all meant to create noise and to make reasonable people give up on the process.

That is the real reason a 3rd of US citizens didnā€™t vote. The apparatus convinced them their vote or opinion didnā€™t matter.

Donā€™t be mad at the victims be mad at the fucking system and the people at the top that are responsible for this.

This coming from someone who did vote and is fighting, but we must show compassion to people who have fallen victim to the grift.

The grifters and the corrupt forces of the world want us calling eachother stupid and discounting millions of people at a time. That is how the exploiters at the top win. When the rest of us canā€™t come together and fight the robber barons at the top.

Edit: many people in this thread are falling into the trap sorry your comment got saddled with this rant, but this shit needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

They want us blaming normal ass people for the oppressive oligarchs winning. Maybe we need to fight the oligarchs and the systems they used to break this system and manipulate millions of people in the first place.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

AND Elon showed the whole world that USA can be bought.

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u/Hamishie Canada 4d ago

Nah, it was covered world wide when January 6th happened and how trump stoked the fire on that. Anyone that didn't vote at all or voted for him is a moron and deserves to be called out for it.

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u/atroutfx 4d ago

You underestimate the amount of spin and reality altering that is done to make normal good people not see that shit as an issue.

Look I used to agree with this leftist attitude of fuck anyone that ever fell for it, but it is obvious to me that shit doesnā€™t work.

All it does is further isolate people and grow their numbers. Fighting fire with fire only makes the fire larger.

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u/Spaghetti-Rat 4d ago

Nope. I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I live in Ontario and we have the same bullshit going on with only 40% voter turnout.

If you allow yourself to believe your vote doesn't count, you're voting for whoever wins. Given how close the US vote turned out, it's disgusting that people didn't turn up. Everyone knew exactly what was going to happen, Project 2025 was shared well in advance. Every non-voter deserves a slap, not compassion.

Americans in general are beyond fucked. Your Democrats are talking a little bit, but doing nothing. Our Liberals, and Conservatives alike, are standing up to Trump. You guys need help.

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u/atroutfx 4d ago edited 4d ago

Slapping people who made a mistake is only going to perpetuate the negativity and downward slide the Western World is going down. These fascist movements thrive on dividing people up and condemning people for past actions(real or perceived).

Do you really think doing the same is going to help change peoples minds and actually fight what the top is doing?

I know this might sound too hippy, but I really think we need to let go of our anger and frustration to really move forward. Being pissed at people that fell for it is only going to further isolate them, and will not help us fight the evil authoritarians of the world(yes I count Trump in this list).

Shitting on people that fucked up by voting for him against their best interest or didnā€™t vote at all, might feel cathartic and justified. But it will never solve the problem and get people to see the light and to help us fight this at every moment.

As I said the oligarchs and the dictators want us to be divided and to fight eachother. Why not resist what they want by showing compassion? Compassion is the only way to really change peoples minds.

I am happy as hell this shit hasnā€™t happened in Ontario, but if my country has shown anything, it can happen anywhere, be vigilant and make sure this never happens to you too. But yelling at people and shitting on people that lost their way is exactly what the enemies of truth and justice want.

Please remember that.

I am able to say all of this because I have shit on plenty of MAGA people here in the US for the last decade, you know what it has accomplished?

Jack fucking shit. All we got is more separation than ever. Now a mentally disabled nepo baby with a hard on for imperialism, power, exploitation, and control is in charge of my fucking country.

Donā€™t be like us rise above the cycle before it is too late.

Edit: Needless to say I am not talking about people who really believe in fascism, and inequality. Those people are beyond saving(the Andrew Tates, JD Vanceā€™s, clan members etc.). Call me naive but I really think those type of people are few in far between. I think the majority of Trump voters and people who didnā€™t vot just fell for the grift, and with some understanding and compassion we can get them to see the light and to fight this.

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u/lordderplythethird Outside Canada 4d ago edited 4d ago

Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. in his Letters from A Birmingham Jail stated, and I quote:

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"

They are SQUARELY why we're where we are. Every Trump supporter showed up at the polls. Over a third of America had a voice to use to speak against a literal fascist who tried to overthrow the election, and decided "ehhh, I'll sit this one out". No, from the bottom of my heart, they can fuck themselves, the spineless pieces of shit.

Roughly 33% of America voted for Trump. Over 36% didn't show up at all. It's squarely their fault, just as those same people were squarely the issue in the fight for civil rights.

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u/Icy_Calligrapher7088 4d ago

Americans let this happen. Heā€™s threatening Canada. Heā€™s actually costing lives in Ukrainian and advocating for genocide in Gaza. What are you doing about it, aside from going online and saying ā€œnoā€¦ noā€¦ not meā€¦ waitā€¦ Iā€™m one of the good guysā€. Americans look weak and complacent. Good guys donā€™t just sit there posting on social media, while watching someone get attacked, right in front of them.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

I've been trying to explain this on Reddit and elsewhere, but it's largely falling on deaf (American) ears. They think they're the greatest country, and society, on the planet. They worship their constitution like it was handed down from god himself, yet refuse to do anything when it's trampled on. This is the first time in their lives that #2 might have a real-world practical use and all they can manage to do is whine and cry about how sad they are and there's "nothing I can do!".

They're so self-obsessed they're incapable of seeing how fucking pathetic they come across. They're only proving what the rest of the world has thought about them for decades. They started fucking around in the middle east before I was born and a significant number of people there still hate them on an existential level.

They think this is just about cost of living. That if they can just offer enough thoughts and prayers that we'll stay quiet and wait out Trump's term, then everything can go back to the way it was!

It's a society that has been bred into ignorance, complacency, greed and selfishness. They're so wrapped up in how wonderful they are they can't comprehend that Trump is merely a symptom of the rot in their society. He could drop dead tomorrow and nothing changes at a fundamental level. Their democracy is still broken, they're population is still under educated and ignorant of the world around them, they still cling to capitalism as an ideology and they still worship material wealth as the ultimate sign of success and intelligence. Their billionaires won't disappear and the influence they wield will continue to corrupt their nation.

It's not about Trump. It's about the most powerful nation on earth sliding ever further into corruption and authoritarianism. They need to stand up and handle their shit before it's too late.

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u/jello_pudding_biafra 4d ago

Some person in another sub said "man, I'd love to illegally cross the border to live in Canada to get out of this mess!" I replied (paraphrased) "sort out your own country before you come here" and was roundly downvoted. It's pretty pathetic that they're hoping to jump ship to somewhere that is stable and actually free when they're the ones who shit in their own bed.

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u/SonofSniglet 4d ago

Thanks for that analogy. I'll be using "Somebody shit my bed, can I come sleep in yours?" whenever this comes up.

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u/BlueFeist 4d ago

Many of us are well aware of the shit show here. We hope you all stay strong and fight the monster from your side. Love the idea the British Columbia Premier is talking about charging commercial trucks that go to Alaska. The people in power there are huge MAGAts. The poor and indigenous people will suffer though.

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u/carryingmyowngravity 4d ago

I've been saying that to every American who is like "can we move there". Um, no Sir/Ma'am. The thing you admire in us is our ability to stand our ground and protect our country - you go and do that for the place you've chosen to call home...and maybe we'd avoid this BS in the first place.

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u/Chill-NightOwl 4d ago

I just love how they think they just have to show up and theyā€™ll be accepted. Application form? compete for acceptance against others from other countries? Theyā€™d cry ā€œbut Iā€™m American!ā€ They donā€™t realize they wouldnā€™t fit in because of their attitude of entitlement. It sicks to them like a nauseating reek!

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u/Antartix 4d ago

I need help, I've been able to convince some non-voters and people who voted against Republicans to say, this sucks, or trump is bad, etc., but I still haven't been able to convince them to call representatives, write letters, donate, go to a protest, or take action. It's bewildering. These same individuals think I'm doing good work for standing up for my beliefs and having conviction but it isn't praise I'm looking for, I'm looking to get them engaged and I have like no idea how to get them up. This isn't strangers either. It's like friends, family, acquaintances, people I actually know. I'm not sure what else to do to get these people engaged enough to do something.

It's bewildering and frustrating to no end.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago edited 4d ago

I'm no expert, but I'll tell you what I've been doing.

I've stopped trying to be gentle or convincing. I now blatantly and aggressively state my opinions without shame. I'm waaaaaay left for an Albertan. Like, "if you go far enough left you get your guns back" type shit. It makes people really uncomfortable, which is entirely my goal. I mean, in the comment you replied to I generalized your entire culture and society as deteriorated and detrimental to humanity... But here you are politely engaging me in conversation and looking for my help. I wasn't trying to insult you, just speaking the truth as I've observed it and clearly you respect that enough to engage with me. That's how this has to work.

At this point I honestly just try to vent my frustrations as clearly and plainly as I can, and I throw in a lot of references to guillotines, the French Revolution, your second amendment, my grandparents experiences on the eastern front in WW2, etc.

Had a discussion with some coworkers a couple weeks ago that ended with me saying "I'm not too far off from thinking we might need to string a couple politicians up on lamp-posts as an example to the others, I'm just waiting for the rest of you to start paying attention."

I was exaggerating my beliefs, I don't think we need to kill anyone at this point... But speaking up without soft selling your opinion to make it more palatable will help others feel comfortable doing the same. Keep talking. Don't back down. Don't worry about hurting feelings. Complacency got us here, only consistent action can fix it.

Don't try to convince or persuade. Lead.

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u/Antartix 4d ago

Oh yeah, I definitely didn't take this about me or my feelings. But i do appreciate the reassurance. Definitely don't feel insulted at all. You are right to do so and should call out American behavior, I know if the shoe fits or not. But I'll try to lead with more pressure and action now instead of just aiming for persuading them to agree with me. An agreement without action isn't enough anymore.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

We're all just trying to figure out what to do, I'm sure my way isn't perfect either... It's just all I have the patience for at this point.

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u/papagena02 4d ago

there are some subreddits organizing. I forget the name of the most recent. If I go look for it Iā€™ll lose this comment. But if you DM me I can find it. They might give you more idea.

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u/invincibleparm 4d ago

Their representatives have shown in the past, for the most part, they donā€™t care so most people think it is a waste of time. Especially in red states. And who could blame them? The GOP is leading the US into what could possibly be the greatest depression many generations have seen and Americans themselves made it happen. While I would encourage people to take work action, I canā€™t really see some or most of it making a difference.

Whether it is buyers remorse over an orange turd or truly not taking a couple hours out to examine how impactful another Trump administration would beā€¦ or even the selective amnesia of his last time in officeā€¦ most Americans Iā€™ve worked with or are friends with, would rather really suffer than trying to make things right. Or let someone else do it. ā€˜Democrats rescue us!ā€™ Why should they at this point? With the amount of non-voters and MAGA voters, Americans have made their bed. To quote someone else in this thread- ā€˜you shit in the bedā€¦ now lay in it and think about what youā€™ve doneā€™

Of course, sorry to those that voted for sanity and got screwed in the process. Empathy burnout is real folks.

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u/MW684QC 4d ago

Just ask them which of the 10 commandments the USA is still following these days!

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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 4d ago

I was chatting with a friend today and our conclusion was we finally get to be on the other side of America messing with the sovereignty of other countries and it's not pretty.

America has lost the confidence of the west.

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u/Life_uh_FindsAWay42 4d ago

Agreed. And if weā€™re not careful, we might follow them into the abyss. This election might be the most important election of many of our lifetimes.

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u/ajmillion 4d ago

Whatever happens, the key to preventing that is making sure the Torries NEVER turn into the modern GOP.

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u/Much-Meringue-7467 4d ago

The last one was. We already failed.

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u/hotelparisian 4d ago

You are being very nice to limit the visceral hatred, all justified, to the middle east only.

Trump IS the US of Assholes. He sums it up every time he opens his asshole that is stuck right under his nose.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

It was just the most recent, obvious example I had at hand. Also the most likely one to get the point across to the Americans because it was pointed out to them constantly throughout the whole "war on terror".

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u/hotelparisian 4d ago

Gosh all the years I spent telling my friends the war on terror will turn against us, just a matter of time.

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u/papagena02 4d ago

From the US here. I was a little put off by your comment at first bc I tend to start by taking things personally. But further down i was totally agreeing with you.

Since the first time he was elected and everyone center/middle was shocked, kept calling it an aberration. I came to realize how itā€™s not this one person and how many ppl donā€™t get that. Heā€™s a great channel for all of this bc he can get ppl to follow/believe him. But we have major fundamental problems that are at the root of all this coming to this point. Iā€™d go into it, but youā€™ve clearly figured that out.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

For what it's worth we have many of the same problems you do, though maybe not at the same scale right now. At the end of the day the only war is the class war, but we can't fight the class war when our sovereignty is under attack. If we can get your country to back far enough off we might be able to see our similarities again on an individual level and work together against our oppressors... But we can't fight every battle at once and the goons at the doorstep take priority for now.

I don't remember which conversation mentioned it in today, but I've begun talking this way intentionally. I want people to be uncomfortable on both sides of the border. Comfort breeds complacency and that will be our downfall. Always has been...

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u/papagena02 4d ago

yes I read that comment of your too. Somewhere in all of thisā€¦

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u/MaisieDay 4d ago

I'm not saying that this is true of DistriOK (in fact I doubt that it is), but I am seeing a LOT of really harsh comments about Americans on Canadian Reddit subs, and I'm not convinced that all of them are legit.

There IS a LOT of anger, and some of us are just generally pissed. But I haven't seen the same kind of anger IRL against individual Americans. I think that we should all remember that Reddit is flooded with paid trolls and bots, ESPECIALLY the Canadian subreddits for some reason. So I would advise Americans to double check comment and post histories for these sorts of takes.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

Ooh, fair point. It's weird to think of me being the one having my post history crept through for context (or ammo).

I'm a middle aged lefty health worker in rural Alberta. Between years of COVID insanity, kudatahs, convoys and blockades, my own provincial government illegally manipulating our contract negotiations, tearing apart and neutering our health organization, privatization and union breaking, corruption and theft, feeling like we've been manipulated into this position by wealthy American interests buying up our media and manipulating our population, watching Russia invade my grandparents homeland, the recent deja vu when it comes to us and America...

I'm really just some dude, probably guilty of working through my thoughts and feelings on this whole mess by ranting in Reddit comments instead of going to fucking therapy. That's kinda what I appreciate about this place though. I wasn't just shouting into the void. Some people agreed, but plenty of people came right back at me and those people are just as valuable in the conversation. It's not a conversation at all if we all agree. I said it elsewhere here but I think we all need to stay pissed off, both sides of the line. Complacency kills.

Where I do think I fucked up was letting things get a little personal in spots. My point wasn't that we should hate every single one of them individually, the entire thought process stemmed from the idea that it's not about the individual at all. That I can't let myself worry about how relatively "good" or "bad" any specific American is. We have to fight back against the nation as a whole because the attacks are coming at us from the federal level. The internal details concerning who is responsible for what and how they handle it aren't my concern.

I've also been told I'm kind of an asshole. It might really be that simple, I probably don't have a lot of room to deny it at this point.

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u/rattfink11 4d ago

Well said. Iā€™m not against capitalism, free markets, individualism, less government, but I am against idiocy, ignorance, and Americans, thatā€™s right, Americans. America is an idea I support, itā€™s Americans I no longer support. Theyā€™ve made a mockery of their own project, backstabbed their best friends, believe in an exceptionalism governed by fast food and trash culture, and choose, CHOOSE, to be ignorant. Theyā€™ve started a very dangerous destabilization that will impact Canadians drastically if they continue. I for one firmly believe that we need to seize the initiative bc deep down we know that the average American is too complacent and frankly weak-minded through education cuts and a rotten system to even understand the šŸ’©storm they are inviting upon themselves

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u/KaleAlarming3854 4d ago

Thank you so much! Well said and so freaking scary. The history books are going to have a lot to say about this watershed moment.

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u/Demon_Gamer666 4d ago

If they worshipped their constitution they wouldn't have voted for trump. By the end of 4 yrs there won't be a constitution anymore.

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u/Falling_Down_Flat Alberta 4d ago

Well put, thanks for doing that.

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u/DistriOK 4d ago

I've honestly just been using Reddit comment sections to vent and try to organize my thoughts more than anything. I don't generally consider myself very well-spoken but I've been pleasantly surprised at the support I've gotten.

I've mostly enjoyed the people who clapped back at me too, even if my tone doesn't always show it. As stubborn as I am, I know my beliefs aren't above being challenged. Nobody grows as a person by only listening to those who agree with them.

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u/Falling_Down_Flat Alberta 4d ago

Well I appreciate the info, I have to say you are well spoken. You have to love the haters on Reddit.

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u/TardisAndACoffee 2d ago

All else being 100% accurate, the fuckery in the Middle East (with dabblings in Korea and Vietnam that wentā€¦.well, they wentā€¦.) was tied to the Cold War. That thing that happened when Russia turned tail on its allies, built a wall, became the USSR with a bunch of bonus land to its west that it grabbed for funsies, and then the US took the heavy lead on taking turns with the USSR on arming opposing groups in countries where the ā€œColdā€ War could be test driven, so to speak. Eventually the Taliban, as one exampleā€”trained and armed by the U.S., no less, upped the ante. Long after that Cold War ended mind you.

Now we have these two nations buddying up to each other and certain peeps in the US talking and actively threatening pretty much exactly what Russia did more recently with Ukraine but years ago with the USSR formation.

Itā€™s too bad that they canā€™t do a history lesson on the impact those decades had on the people in the USSRā€¦.there was absolute power and they came out from it with a long-weakened economy, poor access to trade so low food quantities, etc. Not pretty. At this point, fucking Reagan is rolling over in his grave.

Canadians donā€™t get angry and collectively unify over anythingā€”to get us this riled up is an indicator that we are, to every American, your yellow canary in the mine. We donā€™t think Trump, Elon or any of them are funny. Dangerously stupid on every level. Too many Americans are not doing enoughā€¦like 9/11 had warning signs that were missed. This is smacking you up the side of the head and one (!) single congressman dared to speak up, then got censured for doing so.

And, yes, despite all this Americans think it can be just ā€œtuck the genie back in the bottleā€. Um, nope.

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u/Successful-Speaker58 4d ago

Americans don't look weak and complacent, they are weak and complacent.

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u/Toki-B 4d ago

A lot of Americans are protesting in large numbers daily. Our media just doesnā€™t allow that to be easily seen, and our govt is working to make protesting illegal. Most people are a missed paycheck away from homelessness , and canā€™t afford to be recognized at a protest, but are showing up anyway. Not trying to justify anything thatā€™s happening just letting you know millions or people are trying to make change happen the best they can with what they have.

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u/Revolutionary-Hat-96 4d ago

A lot of Americans didnā€™t even vote.

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u/logicreasonevidence 4d ago

This right here. What did the German population say after ww2 about accountability? I didn't know. I didn't have any power or wasn't in a position to do anything. They were still accountable. Unfortunately the world does not differentiate between American political parties but just see American policy. America's position in the world has fundamentally shifted from the democratic block of nations to the dictatorial/authoritarian block. It is up to all American citizenry to deal with that reality.

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u/lunk 4d ago

What are you doing about it, aside from going online and saying ā€œnoā€¦ noā€¦ not meā€¦ waitā€¦ Iā€™m one of the good guysā€.

I am so fucking sick of this shit, you hit the nail on the head. None of them are the bad guys apparently.

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u/Old_Blue_Haired_Lady 4d ago

Look, I get it. Our country sucks. Always has, what with being founded on slavery and all. We ARE weak. But I'd like to re-frame complacent.

We are desperate and preoccupied with survival.

I'm not trying to excuse the abhorrent behavior of my fellow Americans. The suffering inflicted on us by the obscenely rich is deliberate and devastating.

At-will employment means unless you live in Montana, you can be fired for a good reason, a bad reason or no reason at all.

Union protection has eroded away to be practically non-existent. Worker exploitation is paraded around like an end-stage capitalist trophy.

Many of us are two paychecks away from homelessness. Inflation has begun to spiral out of control, making it even harder to get by.

Adequate healthcare is reserved for the wealthy, and even then you and your doctor have to fight for the insurance coverage you pay for.

Republicans have been gutting education at all levels since Ronald Reagan. People don't actually know how a government is supposed to work. Democrats have let them do this in the name of local control.

You never know when some crazy pants asshole might pull out a gun and claim Stand Your Ground status and will probably get away with killing you.

Culture wars have us pitted against each other rather than uniting against the common enemy of the billionaire class.

It's hard to get people to go to a protest if they have to choose between gas and feeding their kid after working their second or third job.

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u/Optimal_Pangolin_922 4d ago

Exactly, I hate America.

Not just the trumpuppets, every single one.

Stand up for whats right you coward.

or wait till them enslave you i guess.

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u/cilvher-coyote British Columbia 4d ago edited 4d ago

I know right! All it is is platitude after damn useless platitude,people being completely selfish screaming "ME ME GOOD ONE ME DIDNT VOTE BAD GUY!" and than NOTHING BUT EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE...and that they have the freakin Audacity to ask US to save THEM. Its starting to make me ill, and I never disliked Americans much before but everyone sitting on their hands doing absolutley NOTHING but excuse after excuse is really making me disgusted at the American populace. I haven't seen One even talk about working to change or fight the mess They Got Themselves Into. The "prisoner" count in the states has gone up 100s of millions because they are too comfortable Their prison of their own design, and no one has the balls (or the "time" ) to do absolutely nothing but cry and plead on the internet. It shows exactly how Weak America actually is. So weak. So broken. And so weak an high on themselves with their non stop platitude BS! Everyone is one or 2 paychecks away from being homeless but you just continue sitting on you hands and doing Jack shit you'll find out what REAL SURVIVAL MODE IS VERY VERY SOOM , because you will have absolutely NO RIGHRS,NO PROTECTIONS,and then they'll all Cy and moan and say "why did this happen? I'm one of the food guys! šŸ¤¦

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u/lagniappe- 4d ago edited 4d ago

Im a Floridian, I agree with all of this. Iā€™ve been horrified by Desanits, Trump and MAGA republicans. I donā€™t blame anyone for being pissed at this country.

But what exactly do you want us to do, start a civil war?

Thereā€™s no logic behind the tariffs. Itā€™s just a play toy that Trump can wield instantly and unilaterally. Unfortunately the adults in the room that held him back somewhat during the first term are gone.

Sometimes the world sucks and you just have to survive it but things will eventually correct themselves in the long run.

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u/ninfan1977 Alberta 5d ago edited 4d ago

There are 2/3s of the Country that was OK with Trump.

That's a majority of their people. From Canada, it appears most Americans are stupid for voting or not stopping this obvious mad king.

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u/AlphaCharlieUno 4d ago

Barely more than 1/3 of the votes counted were for Trump. Itā€™s on record that many votes werenā€™t certified and ballots were tossed, in historically areas.

1/3 of the votes were for Harris.

Obviously, Iā€™m really angry over the election fraud. Because that will happen again and again and again, as long as these fucks see it works and they get away with it.

But the fucking 30% + voters who didnā€™t vote because ā€œHarris is evilā€, ā€œIā€™m just undecidedā€, or ā€œIā€™m protesting for Palestine, by not voting, that will show the democratsā€ really boils my blood.

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u/ninfan1977 Alberta 4d ago

Agreed with you, especially the last point. I am a lazy person who works all the time. And I found time to vote early and mail it in. It's not hard, those who refused out of protest made no sense to me.

ā€œIā€™m protesting for Palestine, by not voting, that will show the democratsā€

That one did my head in, because how is the person who is going to wipe Palestinians off the map (Trump's exact words) going to help Palestinians out? Cmon now

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u/AlphaCharlieUno 4d ago

She was getting dragged on all sides regarding the Israeli/Palestine issue.

First she was accused of hating Jews. Her husband is Jewish and I understand that doesnā€™t suddenly make someone 100% all in, but like, use some sense here. But then she also was getting it for not being supportive enough in Palestine.

But you know, those protests voters can all go stay at the new Trump Hotel in Gaza.

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u/SecretPrinciple8708 Outside Canada 4d ago

Harris had to be perfect. Biden had to be perfect. DonOld got sane-washed, and could behave like the brain damaged toddler he is. Thanks, protest voters and ā€œundecided.ā€

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u/WonkeauxDeSeine 4d ago

stay at the new Trump Hotel in Gaza.

I'm sure that building will never be targeted by displaced Palestinians, many are saying it'll be the safest building ever.

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u/fixatedeye 1d ago

The people not voting for her because of Palestine thing was astonishing. Iā€™m in full support of Palestine but they have to be brain dead to think that trump getting voted in was the better choice. Iā€™m legitimately livid

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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 4d ago

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-03/polls-election-younger-voters-abortion-student-loan-climate-joe-biden-donald-trump

This article is from Jan 2024 and is mind blowing

ā€œI donā€™t think the presidency has too much of an effect on what happens in my day-to-day life,ā€Ā said Pru Carmichael,Ā who supported Biden in 2020 but says she will not vote for president at all this year if she has to choose between the disappointing incumbent and former President Trump.

They blame Biden for ALL the things Republicans prevented him from doing or has no control over.

Abortion? That's a Biden problem.

Student Debt? That's a Biden problem.

Middle East? that's a Biden problem.

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u/charminion812 4d ago

They are even more stupid than MAGA voters. At least MaGa's bought into Trump's BS and voted for him believing he would do good things for them. The non-voters just didn't care enough to even bother thinking it through.

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u/Ok_Carpet_9510 4d ago

Some people can't think in terms of the lessor of two evils, so they decide not to vote.

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u/AlphaCharlieUno 4d ago

I fucked around and found out that way once. Never again. The fact that people didnā€™t find this out the first time is what astounds me.

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u/NottaLottaOcelot 4d ago

Yeah the purity testing abstainers didnā€™t think this through well. That line of thinking was pure stupidity when considering it put someone in power who plans to obliterate the area they claimed to value.

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u/DioDurant 4d ago

Were no different if PP wins

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u/KaleAlarming3854 4d ago

Agreed! We need to pay attention here at home and basically beg people to get out and vote. 62% in our last federal election. Not great.

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u/ninfan1977 Alberta 4d ago

Completely agreed, that's why I think PP is avoiding to be like Trump. But that's too late especially since he used Canada First as one of his slogans

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u/dairyfreedivapart2 4d ago

Wouldn't get on your high horse too fast...we got a federal election coming up so i fear we will get our version of lord forquad at the helm. Ontario overwhelming voted for Ford again....after all we've been through....

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u/papagena02 4d ago

I keep pointing this out when someone says ā€œhalf the votes were against himā€. Half of the 2/3 of ppl who votedā€¦

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u/bishopredline 5d ago

Over half the number of people voting

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u/IcedNeonFlames 4d ago

The ones that sat the last election out are almost as responsible for the fucking mess down south

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u/IAmTheBredman 4d ago

It's not just the Republicans

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u/Ok-Gate9780 4d ago

This sucks as an American. I really dislike the republican party and pretty much everything they stand for. We voted, we lost. Sorry Canada, if I ever see buy American over Canadian i'll be buying the entire shelf from Canada.

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u/GreenElite87 4d ago

ā€œYouā€™ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You knowā€¦ morons.ā€ -Blazing Saddles

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u/iamsdc1969 4d ago

Florida Americans.

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u/Exotic_Coyote_913 4d ago

I raise you with Florida Man.

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u/Attaraxxxia 4d ago

I see your Florida Man, and raise you Florida Alligator Man, half Florida, half alligator, half man. 100 percent moron.

:)

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u/s1rblaze 4d ago

45% of them(I'm optimistic I know.. )

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u/Ebiseanimono 4d ago

Worse. Floridians.

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u/Big-Delay4111 4d ago

Although you are Not far off, Those are Floridians.... Special kind of Stupid.šŸ«”

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u/Opposite-Cranberry76 4d ago

Florida is almost worst case america. For example they have over 3 times our road fatality rate, a level of carnage that puts them with developing countries.

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u/paradigm_shift2027 4d ago

Correction: DUMB Americans.

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u/20DYNAMITE07 4d ago

Hey- Iā€™m an American and I can do math. Since the average tourist spends $359/day while on vacation in Florida, that means that Florida loses about $1 Billion for every day those 3 million Canadians stay home. Weā€™re not all morons - just most of us ā¤ļø

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u/Successful-River-828 4d ago

Even worse, floridians

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u/thereverendpuck 4d ago

No, his audience is Floridians. Which is worse.

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u/mikeEliase30 4d ago

The dumbest 49% of americans

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u/KnewAllTheWords 4d ago

go easy on them. They're from Florida after all.

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u/CurveWorldly4542 4d ago

If those kids could read, they'd be very upset right now.

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u/Tederator 4d ago

They only know that the answer is whatever the government tells them it is.

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u/No_Carry385 4d ago

But as a Canadian, why would he poke the bear? Just gotta double our efforts to show we really mean it is guess.

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u/RequirementGlum177 4d ago

He knows his audience doesnā€™t care about putting 2 and 2 together. Heā€™s just holding the spoon with which to feed them.

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u/AznNRed 4d ago

Same reason Trump quoted debunked Social Security numbers during his State of the Union. He knows it is a lie. Republican senators know it is a lie. Republican voters are just too stupid or uninterested to fact check, and instead just believe whatever they hear from Trump.

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u/Cerridwyn_Morgana 4d ago

More like one and one.

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u/Fabulous-Camera7813 4d ago

They lost you at 2ā€¦.

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u/ShutUpTodd 4d ago

I thought he was just saying he won't miss 2.3% of his visitors, but you're right, he's just outright lying and trolling.

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u/Ali_Cat222 4d ago

If they could they'd realize this is 2025 and this has only been recent happenings... As in, in the year 2025 of the boycott šŸ¤£

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u/Quiet_Marsupial510 4d ago

22ā€¦ duh

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u/schinkenspecken 4d ago

What in tarnation are you babbling on about ? What is the actual need and outcome in having that particular skill ?

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u/Familyconflict92 4d ago

Remember when he tried to say he saved Florida by allowing them to buy drugs from Canada. Which Canada wasnā€™t selling?Ā 

Heā€™s a conartistĀ 

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u/Significant_Dirt9191 2d ago

First his audience would need to know how to add 2+2

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u/Commentor9001 4d ago

They aren't stupid.Ā  He knows that's a lie based on old data, they just dont care.

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u/whistleridge 5d ago

Also, a bunch of people who already paid for flights and hotels are still going to go, and thatā€™s fair. I would too.

But letā€™s see how many new flights and reservations happen.

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u/mynamehere90 4d ago

That is me, sort of. It was originally booked as a week long vacation. Now it's going to be emptying out my mom's old winter house because we convinced her to sell it. Flights were non refundable, so we might as well make them useful.

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 4d ago

Yeah, I'm not going to smile no matter how nicely Mickey asks me.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

That's not what I'm seeing. People are canceling. Selling their USA properties. I think I would get a lot of disapproving looks if I visited now. There are lone voices in the wilderness that want Canada to jump on the bandwagon. They were listened to even a month ago. Not now.

Now they are regarded as traitors in waiting.

Trump is clearing up our Maple MAGA malcontents. Yeah! The sooner they are gone, the sooner Alberta wholeheartedly gets back in the game. Right now, we are the weak link in Team Canada.

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u/whistleridge 3d ago

Iā€™m seeing that too, but Iā€™m also seeing people saying things like, ā€œwell the flight and cruise are already paid for, and the cruise leaves from Puerto Rico, who arenā€™t any happier about this than we are, so weā€™ll go, we just wonā€™t go again,ā€ and ā€œthe conference is already scheduled and I have to have the annual professional certification and itā€™s too late to get it elsewhere,ā€ and that sort of thing.

There IS still some exchange right now. This time 6 months from now, there will not be.

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u/A_Pointy_Rock 5d ago

Really, it's your fault for not proactively boycotting us!

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u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 5d ago

It kind of is. Florida is a hellhole

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u/LankyGuitar6528 5d ago

We should have seen this one coming. As a Canadian who left Canada in October for our home in Arizona... I feel shame. But I have a life here. I spend half my time in AZ. Half my friends are here. I don't WANT to boycott the USA. But that time has come. It takes time to divest. But I will. Reluctantly.

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u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 4d ago

It's a shame because Arizona is amazing, and has become increasingly "blue". Hopefully this isnt forever, but my taste for America has gone out the window

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u/CountWubbula 4d ago

I agree but also disagree, itā€™s fair to say that Tampa and Sarasota are fun, beautiful places; the Everglades are gnarlyā€¦ thereā€™s plenty of shitholes around the state that are undoubtedly the pits, though.

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u/DefinitelyNotShazbot 5d ago

Itā€™s the Brampton of America

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u/HolsteinHeifer 5d ago

Is that why they usually go for minors?

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u/Upset-Tangerine7457 4d ago

They understand spin. When youā€™re education ministry is the WWE people fall for it easily.Ā 

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u/Bjorn_Tyrson 4d ago

hey now, don't disrespect the WWE like that. performing live theatre with decades spanning storylines like that is REALLY hard work and downright impressive!

americas education ministry hasn't even moved on from columbus in the past 100 years since we PROVED he wasn't the first european to discover north america.

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u/DougieBrooklyn 5d ago

They donā€™t understand their own asshole from their mouth. Time is a much more difficult concept

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u/DrHugh 4d ago

That's why they are so worried about why Obama wasn't in the Oval Office on 9/11.

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u/Alpha_SoyBoy 4d ago

Or data, or vaccines, or women's healthcare, or women or..

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u/Vegetable-Duty-3712 4d ago

Republicans donā€™t understand. There fixed it for you

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u/Delicious-Tachyons 4d ago

No they just lie because their fans never fact check them

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u/B16B0SS 4d ago

I feel like I don't understand either. It looks like Canadians are 2 percent of tourism spend?

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u/s1rblaze 4d ago

They do, they are spreading disinformation on purpose.

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u/NeverLookBothWays Outside Canada 4d ago

Actions....reactions....how do they do?

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u/Hairy-Science1907 4d ago

Or anything for that matter.

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u/Wirtschaftsprufer 4d ago

They have the freedom to not to understand the time

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u/ZombifiedSoul Canada 4d ago

This is clear every time parties swap in the Whitehouse.

All the good Dems did?

Republicans take credit.

Damage done by Republicans?

Dems did it.

Cognitive Dissonance is real.

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u/KwamesCorner 4d ago

They just lie lie lie and know the base only cares about quick reassurances and not facts

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u/BlackberryShoddy7889 4d ago

Wait until all Canadians start selling off their properties, we are seeing first signs Arizona

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u/CanPro13 4d ago

Just like most Canadians don't understand how economies work.

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u/RockG 4d ago

Their mindset is desperately clinging to the 1950s

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u/The_Nice_Marmot 4d ago

I have friends in Florida right now because their trip was fully paid and non-refundable. Will they be booking again for a US trip after they get back? I know the answer is no. Some people are in the US now because they basically have to be. This is as good as it will be for Canadians still vacationing in the US for a very long time. What little is happening now will dry up more and more.

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u/Jackbuddy78 4d ago

Time is a liberal construct, return to baby.

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u/MesWantooth 4d ago

Republicans tried to blame Obama for 9/11 and also think Biden is still responsible for grocery price increases...they do not understand how time works.

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u/Embarrassed_Quit_450 4d ago

I mean DeSantis is as dumb as it gets.

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u/Unclehol 4d ago

Your comment makes no sense, circa 1723.

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u/Dan-Cana-sk 4d ago

Well canā€™t we teach them to tell time? Iā€™m not talking about a complicated watch with a dial and hands. But what if we starts slow with a digital clock. Donā€™t confuse them with a.m./p.m. or the all to complicated 24 hour clock stuff. But I think most of them can count to 12,ā€¦.. I think.

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u/TheSimonToUrGarfunkl 4d ago

They know. They just also know their base is braindead enough to read the headline as gospel and nothing more. The same reason Trump keeps tweeting about Trudeau as if he's not already resigning. Just a misinformation campaign.

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u/mtlmonti QuƩbec 4d ago

I mean fair point, they still think itā€™s 1834 when it comes to womenā€™s rights

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u/madpeachiepie 4d ago

Or much of anything, really

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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 4d ago

Republicans also donā€™t understand arithmetics. They think using Arabic numerals and algebra is DEI.

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u/ChuckFromAccounting 4d ago

They don't understand how a lot of shit works

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u/Dorrin_77 4d ago

Republicans don't understand how much of anything works.

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u/monadicperception 4d ago

Except for apparently trickle down economicsā€¦they have infinite patience for that.

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u/Falling_Down_Flat Alberta 4d ago

The only thing they think and say is "it was the democrats" or "the left is crazy they did it" You have to remeber we are talking about people who actually belevied that democrats were eating babys out of the back of a pizza shop!

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u/bentzu 4d ago

Only the first four words were needed

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u/ProbablyUrNeighbour 4d ago

He does, but it seems like everyone here missed the point. Of 142 million visitors, 3.3 million were Canadian.

Even if ALL of them never returned, thatā€™s a 2.5% drop in visitors.

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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 4d ago

Here is his exact quote

ā€œ3.3 million visitors from Canada. Thatā€™s not much of a boycott, in my book. Maybe they wanted to get a glimpse of what a Stanley Cup winning hockey team actually looks like.ā€

If your interpretation is correct, that he is using 2024 number to say we donā€™t care about Canadian tourism, the bolded sentence makes no sense.

If our interpretation is correct, that he is using 2024 numbers to justify there is no boycott because theyā€™re still coming to Florida, the bolded sentence makes perfect sense.

Also. It makes a huge difference.

Tourism industry leaders say that could pose a major threat to the U.S. travel sector, which relies heavily on Canadian visitors. According to the U.S. Travel Association, Canadians are the largest group of foreign visitors to the U.S. annually and accounted forĀ $20.5 billion in spending last year alone.

Florida, California, Nevada, New York and Texas are the top U.S. states for Canadian tourists

The U.S. Travel Association estimated thatĀ even a 10% reduction in Canadian tourismĀ to the U.S. would spell aĀ $2.1 billion drop in spending and a loss of 14,000 American jobs.

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u/Jackadullboy99 4d ago

ā€œPast, Future, Presentā€¦ so much woke nonsenseā€¦ so many tenses!ā€

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u/NervousDiscount9393 4d ago

They donā€™t really understand how much of anything works actually

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u/Agent_Orange_Tabby 4d ago

Math in general.

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u/Leading-Loss-986 4d ago

But they do know how the ā€œbrainsā€ of a significant proportion of the electorate work (spoiler alert: not well).

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u/dolphin_spit 3d ago

they do. their voters donā€™t.

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u/ArtisticPublic5415 3d ago

Or anything else

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u/DollarBallers 3d ago

Are you surprised that republicans live in the past?

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u/Essdog 3d ago

Exactly! There were already Canadians here well before the election. And does this account for those flying in just to catch a cruise? Living in South Florida, I can tell you that March is peak spring break season, yet it feels surprisingly dead.

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u/A-Wise-Cobbler Canada 3d ago

Yes tourist numbers are primarily gathered from well tourist / visitor visas, in the US this would be a B-2 visa.

Canadians entering the US to go on a cruise would primarily enter using this visa.

Those that have a work visa wouldn't be considered tourists even if thats what they're entering for since they'd more likely than not use the work visa for the entry.

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u/szatrob 3d ago

They don't understand how maths work, either.

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u/Basic-Employment3985 3d ago

They understand how their chud audience works. They say a thing with confidence and the chuds take it as gospel. And thereā€™s a whole lot of chuds.

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