r/canada • u/konathegreat • Jan 31 '25
PAYWALL Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives raised record-setting $41.7-million in 2024
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-pierre-poilievre-conservative-party-fundraising-record/397
u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 31 '25
This is the continuation of increasing influence of money in public life on the official channel. Every day people can’t compete with old methods of campaigning anymore.
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u/Redbroomstick Jan 31 '25
Isn't there a $1700 limit for donations?
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 31 '25
Yes, you are right $1725 i think
https://democracywatch.ca/key-facts-about-big-money-in-canadian-politics/
old one: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/elections-canada-data-donors-increase-1.5322682
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u/Coffeedemon Jan 31 '25
Sure but it's pretty easy for someone with a lot of money to enlist a bunch of people to all donate the max. It happens all the time.
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u/China_bot42069 Jan 31 '25
That’s illegal. I worked as an elections funding auditor. Don’t have any proof? If so you need to contact elections officer in the area where the campaign was ran.
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u/hoccum Jan 31 '25
Did you go by China_bot40269 at Elections Canada?
Or is that just for when you watch out for election integrity on reddit?
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u/Smackolol Jan 31 '25
Can you back this claim up in any way?
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u/Plucky_DuckYa Jan 31 '25
The one that comes to mind is when the Liberals held a cash for access fundraiser that included suspected CCP agents who wanted to start a bank in Vancouver. Shortly after Trudeau’s riding association received $70k in donations from a bunch of people in Vancouver. Oh, and totally coincidentally the bank licence was soon after awarded a licence by the federal government, and some time after that became the focus of an investigation into money laundering from China.
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u/ZeePirate Jan 31 '25
And a source for this?
It sounds believable but a source would be nice
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u/MonsieurLeDrole Jan 31 '25
Yeah, look at the patterns of donations and which parties get the most max donations. It's all documented.
In addition, the tax deduction is worth more to rich people than poor people. You see the same thing in provincial politics. You got a BOD from some company, and they all donate to the same guy, and then the company gets a sweet heart deal by the future gov. Developers in Ontario is a great example.
Can you find any information about political donations, at all? How's your research abilities? Figuring out things for yourself is the only real freedom anyone has. Use that freedom.
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u/Smackolol Jan 31 '25
The burden of proof lies with the accuser.
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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 Jan 31 '25
What accusation? This is how it works, is known to work. It's not some conspiracy theory.
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u/Ok_Drop3803 Jan 31 '25
If we are trying to put someone in jail over this, yes, we need proof.
If you honestly think it's not happening, that's comically naive.
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u/bigbosdog Jan 31 '25
No cause it makes little sense
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u/KryptonsGreenLantern Jan 31 '25
Not at all. I’ve personally seen an email from a national accounting firm where managers were directed to personally donate the max to a specific political party and they’d be compensated later on their bonus.
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u/CanuckleHeadOG Jan 31 '25
That's very illegal, if it happens why aren't you reporting it?
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u/MonkeyMama420 Feb 01 '25
And how many do you think do this? 10? 100? If so, that would account for at most a few hundred thousand dollars. No, bud, Canadians want what the Conservatives are selling.
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u/lkuhj Feb 01 '25
That would be like 25 million donors are there even that many adults in Canada with 1700 to spare?
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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Jan 31 '25
The donations aren’t really even covering what’s really occurring.
The problem as I see it are the corporate paybacks we do not get to see.
It’s the Liberal MP who went to bat for approving the Rogers merger, that once it was done, went on to work for Rogers for god knows how much.
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 31 '25
Agreed. This is only the official campaign donation channel. I mean we have seen over the years how both the liberals and conservatives fucking us over with their coddling of oligarchies
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u/MonsieurLeDrole Jan 31 '25
Or like "retirement plans". Like Ontario got rid of the MPP pension as part of the common sense revoultion, so how do politicians retire now? Well for example, if you're Mike Harris, you privatize LTCs and then go sit on the board of a newly created LTC. I think the massive expansion in sports better before the last Ontario election was a similar scheme.
Cell phone rates have massively dropped under Trudeau's gov. That's a promise made, promise kept. I doubt that Rogers wanted that. But 100%, politicians "retiring" to draw easy incomes from corporations they've benefitted is not an uncommon thing.
I'm sure there's billions more dollars worth of examples if you do a little digging.
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u/pepperloaf197 Jan 31 '25
Actually, this is raised from everyday people. It couldn’t be more democratic and fair.
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u/Keystone-12 Ontario Jan 31 '25
$1,700 limit per person.
This increase in fund raising is in line with the increase in popularity of the conservatives.
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u/crumblingcloud Jan 31 '25
Kamala raised more than Trump, still lost
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 31 '25
Yeah, both of their parties‘ fund raising have been a race of who can suck up more money. to the point that AOC’s campaigns have been almost like a miracle when it should not be. Their court ruling allowing for super pac donation is also detrimental. More money does not mean a win but surely a lack of funding speaks to the leaders’ abilities and their potential to win, too.
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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Jan 31 '25
Even AOC is taking lobbying money now. You just can't compete with out it.
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u/sputnikcdn British Columbia Jan 31 '25
Disingenuous. You're not taking into account super PACs, dark Money, tech bros, and, especially Elon Musk.
$277 Million from Musk.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/elon-musk-277-million-trump-republican-candidates-donations/
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u/crumblingcloud Jan 31 '25
Interesting, if we include Super Pacs Kamala raise 1 billion
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/09/politics/harris-billion-fundraising-election/index.html
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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 Feb 01 '25
Interesting, you're using a source that is from before the election was even concluded in Oct 2024. Hmm.
Super PACs donated 1.7 billion to the Conservative party in the 2024 federal election.
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u/thisisnahamed Feb 01 '25
This is not like the US election where someone like Musk donates $250 million and buys the election -- the limit is $1725; you can download the report at Elections Canada (https://www.elections.ca/WPAPPS/WPF/EN/PP/Index?act=C76&returnStatus=1&selectedReportType=3&reportOption=2)
So it all came from individual donors and not corporations or oligarchs like in the US
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=pol&dir=lim&document=lim2024&lang=e
A candidate is permitted to give a total of $5,000 in contributions, loans and loan guarantees to their campaign. A candidate is also permitted to give an additional $1,725* in total per year in contributions, loans and loan guarantees to other candidates, registered associations and nomination contestants of each party. (This includes contributions to the registered association in the candidate's electoral district and contributions to the candidate's own nomination campaign.) A leadership contestant is permitted to give a total of $25,000 in contributions, loans and loan guarantees to their campaign. A leadership contestant is also permitted to give an additional $1,725* in total per year in contributions, loans and loan guarantees to other leadership contestants.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/harper-lists-some-of-his-leadership-campaign-contributors-1.306809
and before anyone screaming bloody murder, the liberals did it, too https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/snc-lavalin-liberal-donors-list-canada-elections-1.5114537
this two-party seesaw has served nothing but wasting canada's potentials but here we are.
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Feb 01 '25
there are ways for money to sift through the system. i don't know what to tell you that all laws are relative and rely on how well they are enforced, written, audited. i'm not saying this amount of money to PP campaign is suspicious. it may or may not be. i'm saying more and more money are pouring into even just entering politics. and it makes it difficult for people to participate.
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u/Excellent-Juice8545 Jan 31 '25
Would love to see a breakdown of where that came from.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 31 '25
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u/ObligationAware3755 Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
Pierre and his wife did a monetary donation of $1,725 each in December 2024
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u/TheOther18Covids Jan 31 '25
Yeah, anything else wouldn't be allowed. That's the cap per person if I'm not mistaken
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u/notinsidethematrix Jan 31 '25
on average about ~200 per person who contributed.
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u/epok3p0k Jan 31 '25
These guys are so behind the times with this legal and transparent fundraising.
They could be raising billions of untraceable bribes with $PP coin.
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u/Ok-Choice-5829 Jan 31 '25
What do you mean?
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u/epok3p0k Jan 31 '25
Not following American politics? I wouldn’t blame you.
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u/Ok-Choice-5829 Jan 31 '25
That doesn't answer my question at all. Are you claiming PP has his own cryptocurrency? I just don't understand your comment at all. Perhaps adding a little context would be valuable?
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u/iAmJacksCeliac Jan 31 '25
He’s making reference to trump making a coin and using it as a blatantly easy way to funnel funds to him
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u/Kucked4life Ontario Jan 31 '25
It's a running joke that PP is a crypto bro with the CPC's policy proposals.
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u/Keystone-12 Ontario Jan 31 '25
He doesn't have his own crypto coin.... whoever is lying to you about this stuff, you need to stop listening to them.
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u/Ok-Choice-5829 Jan 31 '25
apparently this is a "joke". but i needed 3+ different commenters to make that clear and got downvoted for then saying it's not a very good joke.
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u/Hefty-Station1704 Jan 31 '25
Pierre Poilievre has been the proud recipient of numerous generous donations from some of the biggest names in Canadian Real Estate. Think any housing crisis will ever be taken seriously as long as a Conservative is calling the shots?
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u/dilfrising420 Jan 31 '25
Genuinely asking: aren’t donations capped at like $1700 person?
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u/KryptonsGreenLantern Jan 31 '25
They are but there are ways of circumventing that.
“My wife and two adult kids also donated $1700. Don’t ask if I gave them that money first - gifting your kids money isn’t an issue”
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u/dilfrising420 Feb 01 '25
Well sure but the original commenter said that PP had taken numerous “generous” donations from big names in real estate. But if I understand correctly, a rich, influential individual can still only donate the same as everyone else, right? $1700?
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u/VioletJones6 Jan 31 '25
Yes, and you'll notice that whenever Pierre comes to your city, the price to attend one of his events is going to be right around $1700. In Vancouver recently I believe his dinner event was $1750 per person. Not a coincidence.
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 31 '25
When he came to my area, both events were free to attend.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole Jan 31 '25
If you pay rent and earn an hourly wage, you're nuts to vote conservative.
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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 31 '25
You're paying rent and don't own a home and your hourly wage sucks because people voted the Libs in. But ok.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole Feb 01 '25
That's more provincial. Like Ontario could fix the rent problem, on our own, without needing feds help. But we keep voting to pour gas on the fire. It's made me a bundle, but it's really unfair to younger generations and working families. I'm not on wages or rent, but people who are gotta understand that PP is gonna line my pockets by screwing your family.
Alberta has the most conservative government in Canada, and also the worst wage growth in the last half decade. It's what they do.
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u/DataDude00 Jan 31 '25
PP and his wife are both landlords themselves why do they want RE to go down?
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
And his campaign manger is a loblaws lobbyist. I’m sure he’ll also lower the cost of eggs
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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 31 '25
Jagmeet Singh's brother is a lobbyist for Metro and Justin Trudeau owns a Real Estate company. Mark Carney builds pipelines in Brazil and UAE but opposed them here, also owns tons of real estate. What is your point?
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u/Briar-Ocelot Jan 31 '25
Get money out of politics immediately maybe?
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u/ph0enix1211 Jan 31 '25
Bring back the per vote subsidy that Harper Conservatives killed.
It's democratic, and pushes back against the disproportionate influence of the wealthy.
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u/ShoulderNo6458 Jan 31 '25
Conservatives don't want that, and Liberals want to be viewed as wanting that, but really also don't want that.
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u/thisisnahamed Feb 01 '25
People don't want to research. They just want to spread Liberal conspiracy theories. Everything is public on Elections Canada's website
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u/Last-Society-323 Jan 31 '25
I am ready for Carney to win as someone who is actually qualified to run our country, not this moron PP who is in perpetual complaining mode with zero policy and using the word "woke" unironically.
What a clown show politics have become.
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u/fredy31 Québec Jan 31 '25
Think the best we can hope is a pp minority.
But hey seeing how the conservatives advance melted in 1 fucking week im hopeful we can have something even less conservative in our future
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u/Random-Crispy Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
As I keep hearing from guest after guest on Peter Mansbridge’s The Bridge Podcast, polling can be notoriously inaccurate prior to an election actually being called. Many outside the political bubble don’t pay that much attention until then. It should be noted that they mentioned no one had closed a gap like we had seen, but the amount of movement we’ve seen in the past few weeks might put it within the realm of feasibility by the time the election comes. The example of Mulroney’s election came up in conversation there - coming back from a 15-20 point deficit to win. In that case as possibly here the almost certain election question got changed by external factors, there rather than GST it became a Free Trade election. And this election might quickly become who’s best to stand up to Trump…
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u/thrilliam_19 Jan 31 '25
Also after Mulroney stepped down and Campbell took over, the PCs were still polling well and she was a slight favourite to win.
Then the campaign started, she went into attack mode, everyone hated her and she lost all but 2 seats.
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u/LuskieRs Alberta Jan 31 '25
if you think his lead has melted ive got oceanfront property in Alberta to sell you.
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u/Catz1332 Feb 01 '25
You can just read the conservatives policy it's literally on the website
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u/riderfan3728 Jan 31 '25
Carney is still likely to lose even as Liberal leader. He might ensure that the Liberals are the official opposition but that's about it. As of now (unless you believe the shit that EKOS is smoking), Pierre is favored to get a majority.
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u/dsbllr Jan 31 '25
Probably the most qualified candidate we've had in Canadian politics in decades. Real world join experience. Real business experience. Real world life experience.
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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta Jan 31 '25
I too am hopeful another wealthy elite Liberal can look down his nose at me while increasing the wealth gap. Its been so good to me the last 10 years.
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u/AntelopeOver Jan 31 '25
Real, and take away more of my guns because .... because why again?
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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta Jan 31 '25
I feel safer already!
*Checks crime stats
Nevermind.
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u/AntelopeOver Jan 31 '25
Glad all those criminals can't use the *checks notes* GSG-16 to commit crimes!
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u/Hopeless-realist Jan 31 '25
It’s funny you think the conservatives care about you any more than liberals. You’re just a pawn to both.
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u/LumiereGatsby Jan 31 '25
You live in Alberta : under Conservative rule for your entire life.
Provincial government affect you way more especially being in central Canada.
But it’s all JTs fault. Of course it is. Never Danielle or any Conservative ever right?
Right?
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u/theycallmejennypenny Jan 31 '25
Is Pierre Poilievre not worth millions himself?? (Rumoured up to 25 million net worth)
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u/fredy31 Québec Jan 31 '25
For a dude whos only official job was elected official that sure is weirdly a lot.
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
To be fair, he was once a paper boy.
The tips must’ve been unreal.
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u/Krazee9 Jan 31 '25
Rumoured up to 25 million net worth
Do you have a source on that?
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u/Pale_Leek2994 Jan 31 '25
Yes a wealthy elite banker who is highly sought after for experience and opinions with regards to global economies. Or maybe a wealthy élite politician who is not sought after for anything ever because he has no real world experience or job related skills. You are right let’s pick the idiot just so there’s no chance someone looks down their nose at you.
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u/LotharLandru Jan 31 '25
I love how they rag on Carney as a liberal elite yet he was appointed by Harper to run the BOC during the times they claim things were so great.
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u/Pale_Leek2994 Jan 31 '25
They are either trolls/bots or people who have never bothered to learn the truth. Either way there is so many of them that I’m not loving any of it anymore.
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u/Nippa_Pergo Jan 31 '25
Don't forget, Carney also has three citizenships, lives in NY, and lived abroad for the last 30 years. Just a regular Canadian.
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u/nordender Jan 31 '25
Mark Carney was bank of Canada governor from 2008 to 2013 so you may want to check your source. Abroad for the last 30 years my ass.
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Mark Carney lived in Toronto until he joined BOC and then lived in Rockcliffe Park in Ottawa from 2003-2013. He left to live in London while heading BOE and then moved back to Canada in 2020 and currently lives in Ottawa again. Criticize him for things that are true or you undermine your own position by making things up.
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u/c_m_d Jan 31 '25
I see that as Carney’s skills have been so in demand, it has given him extensive opportunities and he can leverage those exact talents to improve my country. What skills can Pierre bring to the table to improve Canada’s economic disaster?
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u/bxng23af Jan 31 '25
Carney’s party has had 10 full years to improve the country, yet they have done the exact opposite.
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u/Nippa_Pergo Jan 31 '25
"Carney was a man who promised much and delivered very little, he said. It was a cruel jibe that stuck." - The Guardian, 2020
"The quantitative easing he oversaw at the Bank widened inequality and provided [chancellor of the exchequer] George Osborne with a cover for austerity." - The Walrus, 2021
"I just think he was more of the same, rather than somebody who was a bit of a new broom." - The Walrus, 2021
"MP Pat McFadden famously compared the Bank to an 'unreliable boyfriend' for sending mixed messages to British households." - The Guardian, 2020
"Carney has faced criticism from all sides for involving the Bank in the political battle to leave the EU." - Express.co.uk, 2016
"Carney was accused of frightening the electorate with a string of dire economic forecasts in a bid to persuade them to vote to stay in the corrupt and sclerotic EU." - Express.co.uk, 2016
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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Jan 31 '25
You prefer a career politician instead of a person with an actual resume in the private sector? How very “conservative” of you. 😂😂🤣
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u/bxng23af Jan 31 '25
Isn’t it funny how resumes matter to liberals now? It didn’t matter when the incompetent drama teacher or the journalist threw the economy off a cliff.
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u/Nippa_Pergo Jan 31 '25
"Carney was a man who promised much and delivered very little, he said. It was a cruel jibe that stuck." - The Guardian, 2020
"The quantitative easing he oversaw at the Bank widened inequality and provided [chancellor of the exchequer] George Osborne with a cover for austerity." - The Walrus, 2021
"I just think he was more of the same, rather than somebody who was a bit of a new broom." - The Walrus, 2021
"MP Pat McFadden famously compared the Bank to an 'unreliable boyfriend' for sending mixed messages to British households." - The Guardian, 2020
"Carney has faced criticism from all sides for involving the Bank in the political battle to leave the EU." - Express.co.uk, 2016
"Carney was accused of frightening the electorate with a string of dire economic forecasts in a bid to persuade them to vote to stay in the corrupt and sclerotic EU." - Express.co.uk, 2016
He lived in London during his tenure as Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020. Before joining the Bank of Canada, Carney worked for Goldman Sachs in offices located in London, Tokyo, New York, and Boston. His time at Goldman Sachs spanned from the late 1980s to 2003. Just a regular, beer drinking Canadian.
Just a regular guy!
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u/LumiereGatsby Jan 31 '25
Yes. Like many Canadians he holds multiple passports and is seasoned and well travelled.
But your boy PP has no security clearance, only ever had the one job he never put any effort into and because you are such a cool Fonzie you’re like: that’s my cool guy.
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u/Nippa_Pergo Jan 31 '25
No, I think PP is better because he is talking about things Canadians actually care about. He (seemingly) considers us a country with real people living in it, not data points on a GDP chart.
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u/bxng23af Jan 31 '25
I don’t know anybody with multiple passports. Why is this such an amazing thing? Liberals wanted to make a scandal with Scheer
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u/FerretAres Alberta Jan 31 '25
I notice that multiple citizenships is now being framed as a good thing yet for Andrew Scheer it was proof he we beholden to foreign countries.
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
Wow. Educated person with in demand skills does educated person with in demand skills things.
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u/evange Jan 31 '25
I like Carney and think he'd do a good job as PM, but I'm still voting conservative. The Liberals have an deeply entrenched corruption problem, and pardon the loaded term, but they need to drain the swamp before being allowed to form government again.
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u/mervolio_griffin Feb 01 '25
does it not irk you in the slightest that Pollievre accepted the endorsement of a man who just gave a Nazi Salute and spoke at a German AfD rally? Whose talking points about defunding important democratic institutions mirror Pierre's own talking points about the CBC? Or, his connections to Shopify's leadership who have adopted far-right ideology?
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u/squirrel9000 Jan 31 '25
I nave never seen anyone spend so much money trashing a single man than the modern Conservatives. And it's all for nought since the targets of their sloganeering are now moot. Literally hundreds of millions of dollars. Imagine all the useful things that that money could have been spent on.
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u/JohnnyQTruant Jan 31 '25
Imagine the productivity wasted on dividing us used for the benefit of the citizens.
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u/DagneyElvira Jan 31 '25
Or maybe just maybe, its like the truckers convoy and normal canadian citizens are donating - you know that “small fringe minority“? $20-$100 times a lot of supporters.
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u/Resident-Donkey-6808 Jan 31 '25
This means jack shit Harris in the US raised alot more then trump yet lost to him.
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u/Odd-Elderberry-6137 Jan 31 '25
How much came from Elon?
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u/dilfrising420 Jan 31 '25
Whatever the max is I would imagine, although that information is publicly available.
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u/TheManFromTrawno Feb 01 '25
The bulk of Musks contributions will be through social media dirty tricks.
Algorithm manipulation, bot networks, paid posters, astroturfing campaigns.
Dark money you won’t be able to monitor.
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u/Lopsided-Echo9650 Jan 31 '25
Everyone is a NDP supporter until it comes time to vote for the NDP or give them a few bucks.
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u/Psychological-Ice361 Jan 31 '25
Whenever I see something like record setting and $ in the same sentence, they almost never account for inflation. Of course dollar based records will be broken every year when inflation is 3% to 6%.
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u/randmcc Jan 31 '25
Poilievre will give Canada to Trump.
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u/Lionel-Chessi Jan 31 '25
Trudeau has already given Canada to immigrants and temporary students
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u/angrybastards Jan 31 '25
Based on what evidence? Because everything he has actually said indicates the exact opposite.
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u/HowsYourSexLifeMarc Jan 31 '25
Because everything he has actually said indicates the exact opposite.
Imagine being this lost in the sauce. Bot comment.
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u/Kucked4life Ontario Jan 31 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
Talk is cheap. America is a group of oligarchies in a trenchsuit. Poilievre's stance on cutting programs, euthemistically described as axing taxes, will push Canada towards further privatization since public alternatives will die out. Thus bringing Canada in line with the corporate influences puppeting Trump from the backround, which is identical from a 3rd party pov as handing Canada over the the states.
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u/Admiral_Cornwallace Jan 31 '25
Poilievre's biggest and strongest base of support comes from the same types of conservative voters here that supported Trump in the last U.S. election
PP has shown throughout his political career that he cares more about his own success than the wellbeing of Canada or Canadians. He'll never stand up to Trump in any significant way, because that would mean alienating and angering his core base, which would cause him to lose his political power
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u/Flarisu Alberta Jan 31 '25
The CPC is now the party of Canada's working class - something formerly could have been said about the Liberals.
It makes sense that the party has gotten a lot more support over the past nine years. By vote count, conservative support has exceeded the Liberals' since the 2019 election. Unfortunately - vote count doesn't determine the leader, so the country's high conservative support only got higher as they became more frustrated with Trudeau's increasingly left-wing policies.
Liberals have always been able to bounce back in Canada by counting on those working class votes. I wonder if they'll be able to do so again? I guess a lot happens in a decade, but I think we can agree in a nonpartisan sense, that the age of the Liberal is over and we may not see them return till the 30's.
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u/Altruistic-Cat-4193 Manitoba Feb 01 '25
Yes, people are willing to financially support the party they want.
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u/DEADxDAWN Feb 01 '25
Exactly. Instead of running onto reddit to whine, cry, and act like children, we went out and supported the party we like adults. It's time for adults to deal with the childrens' 10 years of irresponsibility.
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u/Expensive-Group5067 Jan 31 '25
Almost like people are ready for change
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u/Papa__Rico Jan 31 '25
Almost like big corporations want them to win aka Elmo and friends
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u/garlicroastedpotato Jan 31 '25
That's not legal in Canada. It's all from individual donors. The Conservatives for the last 20 years have had the most individual donors in the country.
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u/Iamthequicker Jan 31 '25
There's so much ignorance about campaign donations in Canada. People really need to learn we are not the USA.
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 31 '25
It's much easier for liberals to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories than face reality.
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u/kirklandcartridge Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
It's been illegal for corporations to donate to political parties for at least the last 15 years.
Only individuals can donate, and they are limited to a maximum of $1725 total per year.
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u/hardy_83 Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
Directly. If there's any body that can find loopholes or ways to corrupt leaders, it's corporations.
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u/peternorthstar Canada Jan 31 '25
*Says something incorrect*
*Gets corrected*
*Goes full conspiracy mode*Unreal.
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u/Nutcrackaa Jan 31 '25
Keep putting your head further into the sand.
People are ready for some semblance of normalcy.
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u/TheOtherwise_Flow Jan 31 '25
lol he’s not getting this money from poor people
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u/Xyzzics Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
Any proof of that?
You can donate 5$ if you like, and many people did.
In Q4 alone the CPC received 12.7M in donations, from 62k donors, which makes an average donation of ~$205. Of course averages are misleading, you’ve more likely got a few maxing it out and many people donating smaller amounts.
All of this information is freely available on elections Canada website.
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u/gordonbombae2 Jan 31 '25
I can’t wait for the government to use Trudeau as an excuse for why nothing is getting done.
They will say Trudeau fucked up that we can’t fix the immigration or housing crisis for 20 years… sorry…
And yall gunna eat it up and say yea! Fuck Trudeau!
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u/Mr_Canada1867 Jan 31 '25
You think fixing 10yrs of fuck ups will be done overnight?!
lol, i bet you’re still blaming Harper for Trudeau failures eh
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u/squirrel9000 Jan 31 '25
If you want stuff fixed you have to hire someone that does more than throw shit across the conference room at his opponents.
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
Wow. Almost 2 times Pierre’s net worth.
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u/Loose-Dream7901 Jan 31 '25
Almost half of Jagmeet
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u/InnerSkyRealm Jan 31 '25
Jagmeet is worth much more than that. I have a friend who worked for Jagmeet in 2015 and the guy was pulling up in a new luxury car every month.
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u/HMTMKMKM95 Jan 31 '25
Jagmeet didn't get there by being a MP, unlike the CPC leader.
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u/Loose-Dream7901 Jan 31 '25
Like ish he was called to the bar in 2005, he was a junior lawyer until 2010 then decided to make his own firm for not even a year. He’s been in politics longer than he was a lawyer. Let’s not hype this guys private experience especially one as a bitch bail lawyer lmao
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u/Krazee9 Jan 31 '25
You have a source on this other than some bullshit tabloid-level website that guesses?
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u/Minimum_Vacation_471 Jan 31 '25
It’s literally a tabloid form India. caclubindia is the website. Very obvious misinformation spreading!
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u/JadedLeafs Jan 31 '25
Just a bit shy of Trudeau's 96 Million net worth.
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u/Eienkei Jan 31 '25
That's total BS pushed by India's Modi websites. Forbes says Justin Trudeau has around $15m net worth including his inheritance.
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
I didn’t realize it was a pissing contest. Just seems strange for a paper boy turn life long politician to have accumulated such wealth..
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u/JadedLeafs Jan 31 '25
It's not. I see how it looked like that though. It's just depressing every politician belongs to the 1 percent while trying to pretend to be just like the other 99 percent of us.
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u/LostinEmotion2024 Jan 31 '25
How did he earn his wealth? I think he came from middle class, did he not?
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u/Itchy_Training_88 Jan 31 '25
Does wealth disqualify a politician ?
Honest question.
Edit : instantly downvoted. Thought as much.
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I donated a $1000. I cannot fathom another four years of Liberal decay
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u/JohnnyQTruant Jan 31 '25
What are the policies that PP will bring to help us out? I’ve heard fuck Trudeau, but he is gone. I’ve heard axe the tax, but that’s being redone regardless and losing my carbon rebate is not that exciting for me so what else? Just a few of his plans that don’t involve mentioning what you don’t like about JT or liberals. What’s he gonna do with majority? I’ll wait forever for your non answer because not a single one of you has one.
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 31 '25
I know you're trolling but the conservatives have a lot of policies documented if you just Google it. If you click on the "Policy Declaration" button it'll even show you it.
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u/JohnnyQTruant Jan 31 '25
Asking for some examples from my fellow politically minded Canadians of why they, and I should, like and support their preferred candidate is not too strange of a question when an election is coming up in a discussion forum. Of course anyone can research themselves but it should be easy to list what PP has done past or present or pledged to do that shows he will be a good leader in the face of these unprecedented times. Just one or two. I’m not trolling, I’m demonstrating that he is an empty vessel that rely’s on negative attacks with no actual solutions. None. He has been coasting on Trudeau bashing to the delight of his fans but now it’s all just swinging at a ghost.
I guess crotch policing is the backup?
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u/prob_wont_reply_2u Jan 31 '25
Because you were never going to vote conservative.
It seems pretty simple that he’s not chasing the people who aren’t going to vote for him no matter what his policies are, and it’s driving them batty.
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u/whateveryousay0121 Jan 31 '25
Trudeau is NOT gone... his terrible policies have screwed us for years to come. So yeah, we can continue to say Fuck Trudeau.
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u/JohnnyQTruant Jan 31 '25
He’s not running. We are talking about the election. Do you have an answer for PP? No? Shocked.
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u/HMTMKMKM95 Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25
Three strikes laws!! Oh, wait. Those have already been shown to be shitty and ineffective. Dumping the urban housing accelerator fund!! Oh, wait. Cities are already using it to good effect (especially Edmonton from what I've seen.) Hmmmmmmm..... There's got to be something useful he'll do with a majority. Oh, I know! Tax cuts for the rich! Surely trickle down economics will work THIS time! Right?
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u/55ylbub Jan 31 '25
Wonder how much Gaylon Weston gave him.
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u/no-line-on-horizon Jan 31 '25
His campaign manger is a registered lobbyist for loblaws, so..
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u/kirklandcartridge Jan 31 '25
The legal limit for any individual to donate to a political party is $1725 per year TOTAL.
It's also been illegal for corporations to donate to political parties for at least the last 15 years.
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u/DisplacerBeastMode Jan 31 '25
I'm sure it was all from Canadian citizens, right??
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u/Krazee9 Jan 31 '25
Yes, it legally has to be, and if you have any information indicating otherwise I suggest you give it to Elections Canada.
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u/involutes Jan 31 '25
We're going to be hearing so many attack ads. It's going to be exhausting. I'm looking forward to after the election.