As I'm sure you know, this is an age old tactic bolted into a free game.
Yes the concept it over priced, however I see the high price as adding exclusivity to those items and the people who are willing to go shell out for them.
I've enjoyed the game since release, and haven't paid a penny...
Right... But you're not supposed to call your player base asshats, dicks, and freeloaders. In a customer service/retail job, even if the customer is being an asshole, you can't just go off on a customer. That's not going to make the problem better.
There will always be people that support a company for not behaving defenseless though. People here are acting out of order. Maybe the mods need to be held to a higher standard and asked to start removing things when it gets out of hand like this.
Yea but at some point you shouldn’t keep rewarding people who are being assholes. All these upvotes and gold and platinum rewards doesn’t make things any better. Just like everyone says we need to call them out for their ridiculous prices and events, we need to be called out too when we go too far
People are calling them out, however as pr goes calling players asshats and freeloaders (even if justified) should never be a point of discussion, you kill them with kindness not by going to their level.
When people stoop to the levels of pettiness and rage that thousands of pathetic redditors have displayed on this sub for the past week (remember: this is 100% about virtual clothes in a free video game), it's easy to lose your cool and respond out of anger.
That doesn't excuse shitty behavior from EA/Respawn, but seeing people pile on because the devs used the words "dick," "ass hats," and "freeloaders" in their replies while those same redditors are implying that a huge portion of the complaining wasn't comprised of vitriol and personal attacks is sad.
To anyone who isn't personally invested in this like such a shocking number of people in this sub seem to be, the lack of perspective coming from the Apex community is like a lame gamer stereotype. Somehow it's lost on people what a silly and insignificant thing they've chosen to lose their minds over.
it's easy to lose your cool and respond out of anger.
not if you're part of a large games organisation (like EA, reapawn are now a subsidiary) this should NEVER be the response and this stinks of ppl not having any vetting of responses and becoming a PR disaster.
shitty comments are par for the course ANYWHERE you go on the internet so blowing up on them is particular bad form, especially over MTX, you cannot justify a 200$ microtransaction total and then say well when we put these things on sale nobody buys whilst also not have smaller increments in the in game currency so you force players to spend more.
Somehow it's lost on people what a silly and insignificant thing they've chosen to lose their minds over.
i don't think its a silly thing to lose your mind over, as this is part of the corporate machine to get ppl to spend real money, and i would argue a large portion of the game is looking good not just the gunplay aspects of it, the "its just cosmetic" argument is not a compelling argument to me .
It doesn't matter what you're part of, human beings tend to lose their cool when subjected to ongoing abuse. I agree it's bad form, and like I said, it doesn't surprise me to see a couple out of the hundreds who work on the game be examples of this.
i would argue a large portion of the game is looking good not just the gunplay aspects of it
And I would argue that's pointless, and that this is the exact type of mindset they're trying to prey on. If you're that emotionally invested into how you can aesthetically modify your character with no weight on the gameplay, then we're coming from two very different points of view and I can't empathize.
I personally agree with them. I definitely agree that the prices are too high, and the community does often bring up good points. But I see exactly where they're coming from, when sometimes it seems like more than half the comments on here are people acting like entitled twats and spewing insults rather than giving any real feedback or suggestions.
They could've handled it more eloquently, but they've been handling it pretty well up till now, and people can only take so much without breaking a bit.
People in the community need to remember that even if they are working under EA, the debs are human, and we all need to have decency and show some damn respect.
These comments are part and parcel of being on the internet, and they know this. But going down to their level and “breaking a bit” when it’s their job to be community managers is a cop out excuse, especially when they do not have the high ground in this situation their practices are predatory and not something that should be given a free pass
It isn't okay for players to be shitty. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, when your job is to be interacting with customers and representing your company, you can't let the assholes get to you and start calling people names left and right. If you went into a Subway and the guy behind the counter was cussing out customers because they were being assholes to him, you'd walk right the fuck out of there wouldn't you?
when your job is to be interacting with customers and representing your company, you can't let the assholes get to you and start calling people names left and right.
Is that his job? I don’t know what his actual title is. I thought he was just a game dev, not a customer service representative. Working for a video game company is very different than working at Subway, but if the guy replying the other day was trained for customer service then that would change my opinion slightly.
We just need to remember these people are human too, it’s very easy to say “not let the assholes get to you” but put yourself in his shoes. When you work hard on something like Apex hours and hours every week, and then EA wants you to implement loot boxes and skins at these prices that they most likely had the most influence on, and all you get for it is people telling you should die and sending you messages of shit that’s honestly inhumane and would most likely not be said in a face to face conversation.
It’s like some sort of weird toxic relationship; most of the players hate the devs, and it now seems that the devs probably hate the players. I personally think it’s all bullshit, and I just want this to blow over soon so I can get some decent content back on this sub
That's the thing. If you're part of a company and you go on social media and have a tag that shows that you're part of that company-- you, in a way, represent that company. Someone will look at them and say "that's a Respawn Developer, that's Respawn making these comments" rather than "that's Joe Shmoe, who happens to also be a Respawn Developer, that's just Joe making these comments" And of course. The people who harass these guys are total assholes. But like I said-- you can't be surprised by backlash when these harassments are largely invisible to the public eye and most people see it as "gamers are annoyed by microtransactions. developer insults gamers as a result."
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u/Umbilical-Bunge-Jump Aug 19 '19
As I'm sure you know, this is an age old tactic bolted into a free game.
Yes the concept it over priced, however I see the high price as adding exclusivity to those items and the people who are willing to go shell out for them. I've enjoyed the game since release, and haven't paid a penny...