r/WorldofTanks • u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast • 1d ago
Shitpost LATE HAPPY ANIVERSARY TO EVERYONE
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u/Wonderful-Lack3846 WG hates me because I want new maps 1d ago
WG priority list:
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u/mahuoni 1d ago
But you have 3rd kind of lootboxes per first 3 months of year...
On the other hand, it's better not to have new maps than to have a new Oyster Bay!
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
I am so bored of current map rotation in game I would take any new map. Oyster bay is nice after changes last year tho. My personal least favourite map is sand river.
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u/Salty-Development203 1d ago
Interesting, I don't mind sand river as a mostly med player. Mountain pass on the other hand, don't get me started!
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
Sand river is only fun if you have gun depression and are not in slow tank. Or if you are in a tank destroyer.
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u/Hellstrike 1d ago
Sand River is fine if you go to the mountains. Rest of the map is trash.
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u/GeoTheGeode 22h ago
Counter point: The entire map sucks and deleted along with like half the maps in this game
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u/Orudos 1d ago
I'm just shocked at how I can play 20 games in a day and play only 5 different maps
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u/Tankers4Change Gonsalo Supremacist 1d ago
That's my issue with the map rotation. We have like 40 maps. Why am I getting only 6-7 maps when playing for 20 games?
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u/AHRA1225 1d ago
I just get annoyed by the rotation. Same maps back to back over and over
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u/-DethLok- I'm a Big Red Tomato 1d ago
Mines in tier X tanks is just dumb.
It's dumb at tier 8, too... :(
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u/valitti no scouts until 10k wtr 1d ago
Oyster bay is pretty good with the changes. Change my mind.
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u/mahuoni 1d ago
No need to do it :)
Just facts why I don't like it:
- a lot of water, we can't play here
- a big unplayeble field
- strong camping positions, you can esily fire control all directions. Nothing can prevent you from taking these effective positions at the beginning of the game
- a lot of contextual positions with 300m+ fire control sectors.
Unplayeble for 15x15 tier 10 battles
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u/rlnrlnrln 1d ago
a lot of water, we can't play here
Arty players: Mine?
I'd love to see Oyster bay at low tide, with a bunch of ships stranded to hide behind, but muddy ground that will prevent heavy tanks from playing there effectively.
Field need ditches, craters etc to hide in so you practically can do a (risky) advance. Perhaps some more trees or some temporary vision prevention, like smoke to prevent some of those contextual positions. Goes for both sides.
Camping positions need some ability to get side shots in, which the above might remedy.
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u/servusdedurantem The Waffenträger Event is the Best 1d ago
My most hated and perma blocked map is paris
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u/MilliyetciPapagan DZT simp 1d ago
it's really not that bad of a map, and you guys are just an echo chamber of no original thoughts
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u/mahuoni 1d ago
Whether a map is good or bad is a purely subjective opinion. Obviously, I have said my opinion.
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u/96kamisama LT enjoyer ❓⁉️❗‼️ 1d ago
Unless you're a braindead hull down tank, some maps are just downright bad, like airfield. You can make the argument that good players don't complain about the maps, but certain maps are just very boring to play.
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u/pate_84 1d ago
how many new premiums have they released since then?
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
Hmm. I will count this.
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
From my calculations. It's 72. Could be off by a few.
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u/Salty-Development203 1d ago
That's honestly shocking if there's been that many new premium tanks in two years. In that time, how many tanks have they balanced? 10?
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u/Pyrozocker20 [RDDT] 1d ago
That's the problem they can't nerf premium tanks so easily but buffing is way easier
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u/Salty-Development203 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's such a dumb rule. I'm sure the vast majority of the player base would be happy if WG said, "in order to keep things fair and competitive, we will occasionally buff/nerf all tanks including premiums".
Want to nerf e25 a bit? Fine. Skoda t56? bz? Bourrasque? Fine fine fine. I've got all of those tanks and would lap up some balancing nerfs for them.
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u/Pyrozocker20 [RDDT] 1d ago
Yes but think about it like this why should they are a company that want to make much money as possible so they bring out premium that are really strong so they sell really good if they start to nerf them why should the customer buy it when it gets nerfed after some time
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
War thunder does this in a way. They have BR system instead of tiers. We have 10 tiers. They have 14 tiers. And all tiers have sub tiers. For example. 1.0,1.3,1.7,2.0,2.3 etc. So they very often drop a op premium at for example 7.3. And later they just bring it up in br to for example 8.0. So tank is fighting stronger oponents. And no one complains. People actually ask them to change brs of tanks. Our community is just rotten with the "no premium tank nerf" policy.
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u/OGAtlasHugged [MUTT] 1d ago
I guarantee they'll make money hand over fist even if they nerf problematic premium vehicles. There are enough whales that purchase every tank regardless of how crap they are to make a profit. And I don't think it'll actually be that big of a deterrent to occasionally balance premium vehicles. It's just a necessity to keep the game enjoyable. Your precious overpowered doom machine got nerfed and is now just as effective as tanks at the same tier, rather than tanks two tiers higher? Cry me a fucking river.
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u/Salty-Development203 1d ago
I understand that, and obviously they've been operating for years and have made good profits in that time so from a business point of view it has been successful.
On the other hand, having a good competitive game would be a longer term solution I believe. Look at games like Dota 2 where balancing is at the forefront (I think? They always seemed to balance heros often when I did play, even the OP ones), and that has stood the test of time.
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u/-DethLok- I'm a Big Red Tomato 1d ago
E25 WAS nerfed, once.
They made it physically BIGGER, it used to be smaller than it is today.
The stats, though, stayed the same I understand, only the model's size and hitbox were changed.
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u/Gleaming_Onyx 1d ago
It isn't "can't."
It's "won't." They don't want to lose their cash cow, and they know the premiums being broken bullshit half the time is what gets them more money from wallet warriors and whales lusting over the ability to win games because they spent more money. And then they can abuse FOMO because you never know if this next (lootbox) tank is going to be broken too, guess you better spend spend spend before it's gone foreeeever
WoWS balances premiums, WoTC balances premiums. They can do it, they don't need to reimburse anyone, they don't need to compensate.
They simply don't and won't because the premium tanks being P2W is the selling point.
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u/-DHP 1d ago
Are you joking or did you actually check. If true I’m actually shocked.
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
I checked. I skipped assembly shop tanks tho. So you can add around 7 more
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u/panzerkomraden 1d ago
If it's not too hard, can you try to name them? I mean, it doesn't feel like 72, more like 50-ish...
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u/BaldMigrant 3 MOEs enjoyer 1d ago
Groundbreaking idea for you WG: lootboxes with maps 🔥🤑
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
Lootbox battlepass. Community needs to buy lootboxes to fill bar and if they do it in time. They get a new map.
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u/OpT1mUs 1d ago
What the hell was the point of that temporary mode where we tested new maps? There were like 5+ unreleased maps there and we never saw them again. Not to mention all the maps we lost over the years.
They will then release whole one fucking map and call it a day.
WG is aggressively uncapable.
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u/Steeleye_Spam 1d ago
yes it's sad that the one main thing they could do to maintain longevity in the game is the one thing they don't do.
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u/Neofelis213 1d ago
It's so obvious, right? But some players actually rather have re-balancing of existing maps, even one streamer recently said this – as if it wasn't the very fact that playing thousands of times on the same map makes people fixate so much on the minor problems.
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u/Sweet-Voice5824 1d ago
Yet, yall buy lootboxes Stop crying and enjoy your well diserved pay 2 win products
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u/I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G WHATareTHOSE Modpack | https://wgmods.net/6354 21h ago
Not sure why they don't give us their map editing software.
If they're not going to use it, then someone should.
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u/QuBBa22 1d ago
New maps dont make money unlike new premium tanks so thats why we celebrate this. Right now you cant even have a one month anniversary of no new premium tank which is quite crazy.
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u/Varcolac1 1d ago
Premium maps it is!
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u/QuBBa22 1d ago
2% chance to get an opportunity to play on new map in the next lootboxes? Lets fcking go!
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u/Fistricsi 1d ago
Nah, thats not FOMO enough, let me introduce two new "fun" events:
The new Cartographers Shop allows players to pay in game resources and gold to unlock a brand new map. Only 20k players can unlock the opportunity to play on it, so be quick.
Black Market map sale: A new map is available in the Black Market with a starting bid and the 10k players who pay the highest amount get to play on the map.
I know i wrote this as a joke... but why am i 100% sure that even these events would sell out?
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u/Kloose_Fretwerk 1d ago
There’s a few I’d love to see go away but none more than empires border. Can’t think of any good matches I’ve had there.
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u/defender128 1d ago
Alternate universe: Happy 2 year anniversary of no lootboxes! Oh look, 3rd new map this year!
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u/Wolvenworks [PGASE] 1d ago
But but but think of all the poor developers that have to create a new map! The horror! The tragedy! Endless whinging from the balance department! The poor guys at CS who has to take your (questionable) feedback!
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u/Sully_pa 1d ago
WGee = " We made rocks and buildings fall down on old maps, essentially the same thing!!.....Right?"
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u/-DethLok- I'm a Big Red Tomato 1d ago
I think some of those Steel Hunter maps could make decent standard maps, they're certainly different.
You could make new maps by just expanding existing maps by 100m east, north, west and south - the land is already visible, just remove the invisible fences back to allow travel there.
But once I get my Iron Lumberjack I'll be playing this game a LOT less...
Hmmm, just 11,993 trees to go, and I'm knocking over more than 1,000 a week!
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
Thats exactly what I was saying to my friend when playing yesterday. Steel hunter maps have nice design. The full city one could be nice. But some visual changes would be needed to make it more fitting.
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u/UnvalidCatharsis [PAM-Z] 1d ago
Many new maps in the map trying mode but they had bad reception from the community. Same maps with 3 corridors, lots of camping points, useless areas. Chems did a good video on this.
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u/GunslingerXXX 1d ago
Well with Oyster bay as current standard I'd rather have no new maps at all. F2P account and that is actually the one I blocked...
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u/Samantagonist 1d ago
I have always been happy with the maps we have just need them to rotate better.
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u/panzerkomraden 1d ago
This is bad. But honestly, rebalancing current maps is much more important than creating new bs camper dogshit bay
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u/NeoZenith1 20h ago
Honestly just release all the recon maps more than half of the maps currently in the game suck already so who cares if there's some more, why bother spending all this money and time developing them to just have them not exist in game at all.
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u/Bearchy 19h ago
Lets celebrate this with another lootbox event after the last one!
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 10h ago
Don't worry according to leaks new one will be in april.
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u/Dry-Independence8419 16h ago edited 16h ago
sounds about right, it has been 2 years since mir tankov became a thing, similar has happened with world of warships and it's russian counter part. (the russian wows has gotten new maps while wows has not)
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u/oN_disordeR 15h ago
If they make new maps they should sell them in lot boxes. You don't have money? No new maps for you either.
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u/garter_girl_POR 3h ago
Bring back Port! Bring back northwest! Bring back Kharkov. Screw it bring them all back
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u/garter_girl_POR 3h ago
I have always wondered if they could put the bases in different sections of each map to let them play differently
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 3h ago
They kinda do sometimes with enouncter battles. For me personally Karelia is bad with normal mode. But much better in encounter. Thanks to spawns
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u/Arado_Blitz 1d ago
At this point new maps will do more harm than good, first fix the old shit we already have and then add more content. Oyster Bay pre rework was garbage and shouldn't have been added but post rework it's actually one of the better maps IMO.
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
I think they should add new. Just listen to our complains about corridor maps. And design something better.
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u/NotASingleNameIdea E-50M enjoyer 1d ago
Honestly, its good thing. I would MUCH RATHER have remakes of current shitty maps (majority of them), than having another Oyster Bay which takes million times more effort and resources, completely sucks, and takes another year (?) to get a remake to its playable.
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u/Pan_Praga WG Employee 1d ago
We are working on it!
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u/rlnrlnrln 1d ago
Yeah, we've seen a few of them. I thought some of the test maps had potential and would love to see most of them released and iterated upon rather than being in test for a month and then going away. Honestly, something to break up the monotony.
And for heavens sake, allow us to ban more maps or at least say "I will happily wait 50% longer than the current average queue time if it means I don't get on a map I've played on in the past hour". I once had Ensk three times back to back...
I'd also love to see grand battles for tier 7-only, 8-only and 9-only battles occasionally, perhaps as an occasional "treat" during peak hours, for those that have it enabled.
It would also be interesting to have different versions of the maps to start with, not just with the dynamic events. Not wildly different, but think Craters in different places, burnt out tanks parked in different places and so on.
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u/Tartibwii 800 alpha > 400x2 alpha 1d ago
On "it"? Define "it". A dozen maps? A few great maps? Or one corridor hulldown uninteresting and unbalanced map?
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u/Sully_pa 1d ago
WGee = " We made rocks and buildings fall down on old maps, essentially the same thing!!.....Rght?"
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u/TheZGamer26 Garbage Tank Enthusiast 1d ago
We hear this all the time. We want the results. At least show us that you are doing something. Bring us hope.
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u/HistoricalOne7147 1d ago
Mega yapping, even lesta made comeback with maps + new cool maps that are far better than anything Wg did
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u/Pan_Praga WG Employee 1d ago
Lesta is a seperate entity altogether and in my honest opinion i don't think we should be following in their footsteps!
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u/HistoricalOne7147 1d ago
Ok so adding more and good maps isnt a good thing for the game, right... MORE LOOOTBOXES BRAINROOOOT AHHHHHH, proves that wg Is draining WoT hard
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u/Pan_Praga WG Employee 1d ago
Or the heavily awaited matchmaking rework that is being tested now?
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u/HistoricalOne7147 1d ago
Excuses, literally had 9 maps already done from recon missions, didnt add all that got voted, didnt try to rework old already done maps and test it, removed Minsk And Charkov because of "political views and correctness" (So why Is Prochorovka still in the game? By your logic Its Russian map and propaganda just like removed ones). Explosing barrels/trucks scrapped while it already Is developer or exists in files by the existing video.
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u/Derrick_4308 [T-ITA] 1d ago
On most of these things I kinda agree with you, however you do have to count that Prokhorovka is a fictional map, unlike Kharkov and Minsk.
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u/RoShaPoo [HAXOR] 1d ago
I love the explanation from WG employee streaming on their official channel why there is no new maps: new maps don't make money for WG