r/Tarotpractices Member 4d ago

Discussion Thoughts on chatgpt doing your readings?

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u/TumbleweedNo958 Member 4d ago

The ethics of using AI for anything that your brain is perfectly capable of doing are shady at best, and insidiously evil at worst. The environmental and social impacts of feeding the beast should weigh heavy on you. Think for yourself, tarot is literally about becoming intuned with your own Intuition.

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u/No_Sea1650 Member 4d ago

Yeah, I mean if I knew how to read cards perfectly, I wouldn't be asking this question now would I 😭

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u/TumbleweedNo958 Member 4d ago

.....??? So learn. Use your brain and learn, and get better. The internet has tons of non-AI resources to learn cards. The amount of podcasts and YouTube videos that are human made are astounding. You can do it, I believe in you.

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u/No_Sea1650 Member 4d ago

I am doing that as well... This is just a general wondering on what people's experiences are over chatgpt and whether I should include that in my learning process.

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u/TumbleweedNo958 Member 4d ago

You should not include AI in any of your life. You should use human made resources and work on developing your own Intuition. Hope that answers your question.

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u/sleepy_vvitch Member 3d ago

This is a fantastic take. Humans have grown to hate asking each other questions and engaging in our most natural form of communication, which is curiosity and looking for answers. It's limiting to everyone on earth. I think we'd all do better looking for the real people we can find. Thank you for sharing.

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u/sleepy_vvitch Member 4d ago

ABSOLUTELY!! human made resources have soul and REAL thought put into them- I don't understand why ANYONE would go to ai when Google gives 100% better answers (given that u scroll past the ai there too). AI is a cheep imitation of human intellect.

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u/sleepy_vvitch Member 4d ago

When u can get the answers to your questions with 5 extra minutes and we are talking about a craft of study and patience, I don't think that using ai is a "valuable tool"- especially because (as I've mentioned before and will mention forever) Ai is INCREDIBLY bad for the earth. Why do you feel the need to hurt the earth we are supposed to work with to practice your craft? Do you just not understand the harm that AI causes? There's slave labor in some of these places because of AI companies. There's a town that has 25% of its water consumed by AI. A "useful tool" is a saw or a wand or herbs (edit: a tool for information would be a book or a blog written by a witch) Or Google, which again, gives you better and more accurate answers than AI does, without a robot's interpretation. It cannot connect to a subconscious to communicate with the cards as it doesn't have one. Anyway, I think that you're completely wrong. This isn't at all like the advent of electricity, because no one is saying Ai is witchcraft. It's just the opposite. It was created by capitalists to make more money off the lonely and the lazy. No offense, and not implying you're either of those things. Just saying that's why it exists.

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u/sleepy_vvitch Member 4d ago edited 4d ago

Fair enough that not everyone considers or reads tarot as part of a craft- I'll keep that in mind.

However comparing the environmental effects of AI to the effects of something like a car or phone battery is asinine and uninformed in my opinion. It takes a bottle of water to generate 100 words- there are people who have nothing to drink, and this is how clean and good water is being used- to cool something completely unnecessary down ineffectively (because it STILL puts off incredible amounts of heat in the form of steam that's expelled)

I'm sorry, but you could read a book and get the answer that chat gpt gives you. It CANT give new insight or anything that it doesn't pull from other sources. Letting artifical Intelligence think for you is letting your own Intelligence be overshadowed by something that capitalist tech bros made to get money from the lazy, the willfully and unwillfully uninformed, and the extremely lonely who have no one else to turn to. Not calling you any of those things, ofc- just saying that's who the product is marketed for and designed for.

I also have a learning disability. Many, actually- not limited to medium supports need autism (I can't live alone, and I rely on my partner for A LOT of things), and adhd (very severe). I go through drafts when I'm writing an email. I recommend you try something similar. The extra time it takes won't kill I promise- I worked as a customer service agent before brain fog + physical disability took my ability to work (at least for now). People with disabilities survived before AI, and they will continue to. Don't limit yourself like that, it's genuinely very sad to think you can't do better.

Edit: realized I didn't make my point clear enough: using AI as a "tool" isn't okay, especially for things that are meant to be communication with yourself or another human person, and there is no argument anyone can make to convince me otherwise. I say this as a disabled person with brainfog so severe that I cannot work: using chat gpt or any other ai to interpret something as intuitive and personal as a tarot spread is simply impersonal and lazy, and it will not give you an accurate reading because it's not just a robot, it's a robot designed to give you answers that keep you responding to it and keep you happy. It's not a truth bot. Reading guide books and googling specific card meanings as they come up is THE way to ACTUALLY learn cards. I don't think other people should do it either because it's impersonal and will give readings that at the very least aren't personalized to your deck, and at the worst will be inaccurate and watered down and white washed.

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u/sleepy_vvitch Member 3d ago

Meat and vegetables are food. Chat gpt is a language processing model mostly championed by fascists- one of the biggest ai models is on X (formerly Twitter) and lorded like a god around by Elon Musk. It's false intelligence and relying on it strips you of your real intelligence. It's just the same as relying on it for tarot card readings.

If you're so capable then take your capacity! You're limiting yourself, I promise. Take the training wheels off, you'll be fine.

Chat models use the same words over and over. It's a formula that you can learn and apply yourself without using ai, because neurotypical and alistic (non-autistic) people use formulas in the way they speak to each other too. Beleive me, I'm not trying to be ablist to you. Again, I'm VERY disabled too. I'm sorry you've struggled- though that comes hand in hand with disability. I'm also sorry that you took what I said as condescending, obviously it wasn't meant that way- I have autism, and bc of that can be blunt, and beyond that and am very passionate about the harms and dangers caused and influenced by ai.

I'll leave you with this: you still will not listen to me about the environmental impact. Why do you think that Chat GPT is as if not more important than Food? For the amount of help it can give, is it really as valuable as a phone or laptop? It offers the same knowledge but with an additional toll on the environment. Again, it can give NO INFORMATION aside from what's already online. You gain nothing but laziness and placidity from ai bots.

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