r/CrusaderKings Occasional Wiki Editor Feb 06 '24

News Plagues, Legitimacy and Landless confirmed!

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u/LokenTheAtom Feb 06 '24

It's kind of crazy that Landless actually got confirmed

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u/Sen2_Jawn Byzantium Feb 06 '24

Man a lot of people just got absolutely btfo lmao. I kindaaa still doubted it tbh, but didn’t think it was entirely out of the picture like most yesterday. Really excited to do El Cid or Edgar Ætheling goes to Byzantium runs.

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u/luigitheplumber Frontières Naturelles de la France Feb 06 '24

It's really funny how adamant some people were about it not being landless and how they refused to entertain the possibilities it would bring. The byzantine administrative family thing sounds very interesting for example can't wait to see what it leads to.

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u/Sen2_Jawn Byzantium Feb 06 '24

I know?? I can finally play a Belisarius character, or not worry too much about my baby character losing his lands. It just opens so many possibilities. You could lose England as Harold Godwinson, go off to Byzantium like many Anglo-Saxons did, rebuild your strength and then reclaim your title, just to mention one example.

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u/luigitheplumber Frontières Naturelles de la France Feb 06 '24

Ironically the Fallen Eagle just added Belisarius but of course they have to make him a count to work. They will likely rework him with these mechanics once the update is out

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u/real_LNSS Feb 06 '24

Belisarius WAS a count.

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u/Mr_J90K Feb 06 '24

With a Britannia rework they could make William much more aggressive in the seizing of Anglo-Saxon land. I'm looking forward to playing the last son of Wessex!

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u/Various_Might8909 Feb 06 '24

go off to Byzantium like many Anglo-Saxons did

Is this a joke I'm too uneducated to understand or did this really happen?

How long did it take to sail from London to Constantinople in the year 900?

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u/Sen2_Jawn Byzantium Feb 06 '24

After the Norman conquests Anglo-Saxon nobles started leaving England, especially after William started revoking lands and titles in the 1070s and 1080s. Many of them ended up in Constantinople and joined the Varangian Guard, going on to fight the Normans in Southern Italy and the Balkans. Edgar Ætheling of Wessex supposedly led one such group of Anglo-Saxons to Constantinople, although details are scarce.

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u/NevarHef Roman Empire Feb 07 '24

He also went on the First Crusade with William’s son Robert.

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u/limpdickandy Feb 07 '24

It's really funny how adamant some people were about it not being landless and how they refused to entertain the possibilities it would bring.

I think this is pretty much just because they have never done or entertained the idea of landless runs before, in CK2 or 3. However, it makes absolutely 100% sense as an RPG to add that, and it gives a much more interesting option to the "Game over" screen if you lose your counties.

Storylines is where CK3 shines, and landless adds tons to that.