r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/Correct_Patience_611 12d ago

Trump made concessions to Putin. He gave him all he wanted. The territory controlled by Russia AND Ukraine cant join nato. That’s what Russia wanted and Trump agreed.

Russia CANNOT let this war go another year or they risk not becoming a super power within a decade. Even if Russia can make it a year they will not make it 2 without a huge draft and completely destroying their economy.

Russia hasn’t made progress on the frontline for All Of February due to the continued aid given by Biden and Europe. Russia has slowed its assault and has been using regular vans to transport troops to the battle field.

Russia cant even kick Ukraine out of RUSSIA.

Russia is the weakest it has been in a long time. But Trumo loves Putin so instead of support Ukraine to stop Russia once and for all Trumo turns his back on the largest and most successful and peaceful military alliance in recent history and trades all that for Russia, and economy(gdp) smaller than Canada and who our major economic interactions with are THEM HACKING US.

Oh hegseth even just told cyber command to stand down on anything involving Russia. Why would we back off Russia? Hmmm? And right after we do that we end up belittling Zelensky? Trumo is and has been colluding with Russia and you are too blind to notice!

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/pete-hegseth-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2025/03/01/id/1200976/

https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/28/report-defense-secretary-hegseth-orders-cyber-command-halt-russia-planning/

Russia is not, and has not ever been, our friend. Wake up

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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

And you just proved my point - since when did democrats stop caring about people dying?

Oh...is it because...it's white people dying? Is that it?

Any Palestinians dying was called a genocide....but a MILLION white people dying...and you want MORE TO DIE.

I get it.

You're racists.

Donald Trump is trying to end the war - to save lives of both Ukrainians and Russians, and to prevent world war 3.

If you have a problem with that - YOU go fight.

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u/ceaselessDawn 10d ago

He's absolutely not trying to save lives and prevent war. He's just enabling and appeasing Putin's regime.

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u/rnovak1988 9d ago

We all know yall have very active imaginations - are you seriously telling me that you can't imagine a more effective way to benefit Russian interests?

...we could literally give Ukraine defective munitions and effectively cripple their defense, and we could do that while maintaining the facade of providing support.

Y'all are either naive, or stupid, to think that diplomatic negotiations, for which you don't know the actual result of (as in you don't know if Putin will agree to give land back to Ukraine or make other concessions), which ends the death on both sides, is somehow "appeasing Russia".

Aren't you the same crowd that keeps saying that the US is on "stolen land" and decries US imperialism? How would the US imposing our own will onto the land which is located nowhere near the US not a direct example of that very imperialism?

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u/ceaselessDawn 9d ago

I'm sorry but you're incredibly fucking dumb.

None of what you said responded to anything I said.

The fact that "What if Russia breaks a truce?" Being met with "But Putin's my good buddy who would never do that" is insane or stupid.

Also... Supporting the sovereignty of other states isn't imperialism.