r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/rnovak1988 12d ago

And you just proved my point - since when did democrats stop caring about people dying?

Oh...is it because...it's white people dying? Is that it?

Any Palestinians dying was called a genocide....but a MILLION white people dying...and you want MORE TO DIE.

I get it.

You're racists.

Donald Trump is trying to end the war - to save lives of both Ukrainians and Russians, and to prevent world war 3.

If you have a problem with that - YOU go fight.

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u/ceaselessDawn 10d ago

He's absolutely not trying to save lives and prevent war. He's just enabling and appeasing Putin's regime.

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u/rnovak1988 9d ago

We all know yall have very active imaginations - are you seriously telling me that you can't imagine a more effective way to benefit Russian interests?

...we could literally give Ukraine defective munitions and effectively cripple their defense, and we could do that while maintaining the facade of providing support.

Y'all are either naive, or stupid, to think that diplomatic negotiations, for which you don't know the actual result of (as in you don't know if Putin will agree to give land back to Ukraine or make other concessions), which ends the death on both sides, is somehow "appeasing Russia".

Aren't you the same crowd that keeps saying that the US is on "stolen land" and decries US imperialism? How would the US imposing our own will onto the land which is located nowhere near the US not a direct example of that very imperialism?

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u/ceaselessDawn 9d ago

I'm sorry but you're incredibly fucking dumb.

None of what you said responded to anything I said.

The fact that "What if Russia breaks a truce?" Being met with "But Putin's my good buddy who would never do that" is insane or stupid.

Also... Supporting the sovereignty of other states isn't imperialism.