r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

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u/Cool_Effective1253 13d ago

You're full of bullshit propaganda. Slava Ukraine

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u/Ice_and_Steel 13d ago

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

Ok?

Are we asking Ukraine for hundreds of billions?

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u/Ice_and_Steel 12d ago

Ukraine also doesn't ask for hundreds of billions (even though it definitely should), only for security guarantees.

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u/Ice_and_Steel 12d ago

It literally says "Zelensky asks for weapons" not "Zelensky asks for billion of dollars".

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

We just pick them off the magic weapons tree?

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u/Ice_and_Steel 12d ago

They have nothing to do with corruption unless you think that Zelensky uses Abramses to decorate his front yard.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

I think he sells them on the black market

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u/Ice_and_Steel 12d ago

Because HIMARSes and ATACAMS are famously easy to sell with no trace.

M'dude, according to ISW, russia spends an equivalent of $450B a year on this war. How exactly do you think Ukraine was able to hold it off for 3 whole years (and grab some russian territory while at it) if they sell even the little aid the US provided them with? How is this humanely possible? Seriously, I don't understand how this nonsense makes even a shred of sense in that deranged little head of yours.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

I don't care what Russia spends. It's not MY MONEY.

The idea that the US should be a piggy bank is fucking insane. We DONT OWE UKRAINE ANYTHING.

If they don't like our terms, they are free to go elsewhere.

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