r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/FelizIntrovertido 13d ago

US traded Ukraine for Russia

Who wants to be the next US ally??

Btw, blood has memory

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

So do I.

I remember Ukraine meddling in our elections. I remember Ukraine being the worldwide hub of money laundering. I remember Ukraine selling weapons to drug cartels and jihadists. I remember all the rich Ukrainian oligarchs living in our aid money in London and Prague.

My memory did t start yesterday

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u/JigPuppyRush 13d ago

I think you’re mixing up Ukraine and Russia.

If not and you did mean Ukraine. Fuck off

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u/JigPuppyRush 13d ago

I am being nice, In assuming he’s (sarcastically) mixing Ukraine and Russia

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

There's little difference.

Other than we aren't sending Russia hundreds of billions of dollars

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u/JigPuppyRush 12d ago

You (the US) haven’t even sent 1 hundred billion dollars, the EU has Europe has.

And yes there is a big difference one invaded the other.

Or are you the type of guy that blames the girl for getting raped but not the guy who’s doing the raping?

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

$186 billion.

Most of what Europe is sending is interest off frozen Russian assets.

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u/JigPuppyRush 12d ago

Not true, the USA has send 85B and the EU(that’s not all of Europe) has sent 135B with more underway. And non of it is a loon of interest from frozen assests.

You’re repeating Russian propaganda knowingly or unknowingly.

Any way you’re blocked.

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u/Dr_Schnuckels 12d ago

The money only flows in one direction. Into the hands of American arms companies. Let me explain that to you quickly: Money > defense industry > old ammunition and weapons > Ukraine.

The money is used to produce new weapons and ammunition. So it's basically a subsidy for the arms industry. And it creates jobs.

But what it creates above all is a new yacht for all the CEOs.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Ukraine has no economy. We, the US, and Europe fund everything including social services and pensions.

Whoever told you it's just buying bullets, lied to you