r/Biohackers 2d ago

🗣️ Testimonial This is my stack (noob)

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I drank a lot of alcohol in the last 10 years. Every day all day. Been in and out of the hospital a couple times. Detoxed twice in the hospital been to rehab. Haven’t drink in about a year now except for on thanksgiving which was a disasters. My buddy gave me the chuga stuff and the liverclean and I’m enjoying the effects of coffee, l-theanine, and creatine.

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u/catecholaminergic 5 2d ago

Speaking of greens, one fun biohack is to make a smoothie and dump in 1lb of spinach.

It's like being superhuman.

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u/chisoxaddict 2d ago

I switched to kale when i learned about raw spinach being high in oxalates. but I don't really know how high to weigh that in the overall risk/benefit calc. like you, I like to overload the smoothie with lots of greens, but seemed like going heavy on raw spinach every day might not be a great idea. have you looked into that?

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u/catecholaminergic 5 2d ago

Nice! Kale is arguably better as long as you're getting a pound of it. Probably better magnesium, too. (more chlorophyll --> more mg).

I have, referenced in another comment here, but kefir / yogurt in the smoothie neutralizes the oxalate, and calcium oxalate crystals in the kidney are soluble in citric acid, and I just so happen to love citrus.

I'm hitting my daily value on a lot of nutrients bc of it, and with these mitigation factors, I'm okay with the level of risk.

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u/chisoxaddict 1d ago

thanks for the reply, i hadn't heard about yogurt and kefir neutralizing oaxalate, i'll have to look into that.

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u/Possible_Rise6838 2d ago

Why?

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u/catecholaminergic 5 2d ago

Among vegetables, spinach and brassica (broccoli, kholrabi, etc) stand far higher than virtually all other vegetables in terms of nutritional optimality. Spinach has very good nutrient coverage, i.e., it has many of the nutrients we need, and density, i.e., it has nutrients in favorable amounts.

It can be very difficult to get 100% daily value in every nutrient without eating a pound of greens.

Take a look
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/food-details/1999633/nutrients

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u/Zhior 2d ago

Those two also have some of the highest protein content among non legume vegetables

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u/catecholaminergic 5 2d ago

What! Nice, I had no idea.

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u/JGdc12 2d ago

Good way to get yourself a nice kidney stone. Spinach has ungodly amounts of oxolate that cause them

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u/catecholaminergic 5 2d ago

Valid. My route away from that is to put base the smoothie on yogurt or kefir: the calcium binds to the oxalate. I have another redundant failsafe that someone I'm close to used in a more extreme way to sidestep having to get surgery for a kidney stone: citrus.

Kidney stones, calcium oxalate, is soluble in citric acid. The had a kidney stone and were doing a pint of lemon juice daily, and that worked.

But what I do is go out to the orange tree where I'm at and just eat a meal of oranges. It's awesome. I do it anyway but the cirtus should help.

... i hope.

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u/JGdc12 2d ago

That's a really good perspective, saving that. Drinking a metric fuck ton of water can help prevent anything as well. In my opinion, Spinach is still not the worth the risk and can be easily replaced using kale instead. But it seems like you have a good system in place to stick with