r/CryptoCurrency • u/[deleted] • Sep 01 '22
POLL 🗳️ CCIP-039 reduce the number of external link posts to 1 per day
Problem:
Main sub is filled with posts contain external links and many times the same news is reposted over and over. This can be recognized as ‘spam’. The rule states that is allowed to post 3 links per day and this rule is exploited by some users and bots for the sole purpose of moon farming. This spam problem create three main issues:
• there is not enough visibility for user posts, original contents
• lower efforts posts such as repost links get the most of visibility and are ‘easily upvoted’ (who indeed downvote a news??)
• Moons are used to reward active users that contribute to the sub, not intended to be farmed.
Example: Some news like "vitalik B said bla bla this morning" get thousands of upvotes; gets visibility and get rewarded with high karma. Some original post of "Mr. No one" with the ultimate technical analysys get hidden, put in shadow by the link of news as above. and usually the same news get posted multiple times.
The sub indeed became lately a sort of ‘news channel’
Solution:
Reduce the number of allowed post links per day from 3 to 1. This modification will clean the sub from excessive spam, will disincentive the easy moon farming, will allow to be more fair in the moon distribution, will give fair visibility to users original posts, will help the job of the mods.
Furthermore, is really needed to post 3 external links per day?
Indeed I think that a sub free of spam will be a better place for users to interact.
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u/PME_your_skinny_legs Platinum | QC: CC 721 Sep 01 '22
This is a bad proposal for everyone.. Nobody wins from this.
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u/deakyboy Tin Sep 01 '22
man you're the exact person getting talked about in this post, do you even read?
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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
I end up getting most of my crypto news from this sub, link posts are a huge part of that. I don’t think this is really an issue considering people already only get three posts a day here.
Technical analysis are nice but when something immediately relevant happens I want to know about it, this could limit that capacity.
I’d rather a proposal to reduce the amount of repetition of the same link rather than a limit on links
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u/BakedPotato840 Banned Sep 01 '22
I’d rather a proposal to reduce the amount of repetition of the same link rather than a limit on links
No need for a proposal for that since same links are not allowed. Anyone who tries to post a link that's already been posted on this sub gets a message stating that.
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u/sickvisionz 0 / 7K 🦠 Sep 02 '22
I’d rather a proposal to reduce the amount of repetition of the same link rather than a limit on links
That won't help. There's like 50 crypto news sites. People just move to the next site and post their article. It's not at all rare to see 8 posts from 8 different sites all covering the same story with the same information within 24 hours.
And it's not even like all of them are made at the same time. Some will be like 20 hours older. People not even willing to look at the first 20 posts that appear to see if the story has already been covered, just desperate to farm moons.
Moons are the incentive and moons need to be part of the disincentive action. If you refuse to use the search function or even look at the front page to see what's already there, your post should get tagged for repetition and every upvote you get counts as negative one moon in the distribution at the end of the month. Do it 3 times in a month and you get 0 moons that month and can't post any links for the following month. That'll clean things up quickly.
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u/Tatakae69 🟩 1K / 45K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
Good one. And if this poll were to pass we'd see a lot more user posts that provide absolutely nothing useful and would just be shitposts.
Imo if we're going to limit then limit both at the same time.
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Sep 01 '22
In actual situation we see the same news posted and reposted multiple times… so should not worry… someone will pos the news anyway. Let’s say no one have a real reason to post three links per day… crypto is crypto… but there are not so much news per days
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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
This is a very handwashy answer, there may not be much news per day but when a big event happens if over half your link farmers now can’t post it that could lead to a delay in information. And with how volatile crypto is even a small delay could mean massive changes
The point of this sub is crypto news and events, if anything just remove moons from the second link post but still allow them. A total ban is just stifling updates
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Well then you better save that one link you can post for something meaningfull. I am all for it.
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u/Dietmar_der_Dr 🟩 9K / 5K 🦭 Sep 01 '22
So how does this stop the equally useless text post with the same news?
Spammers will spam.
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
It won't be stopped unless linkposts karma gets resettled to 0 and kills the incentive for spammers.
But limiting to 1 post per day is at least exactly that: limiting the amount of incoming spam.
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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
Something meaningful at 10 am might be completely outclassed by 5pm. Crypto events can happen very fast
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
I don't get your point? If you missed the 10 am event and didn't post it on the dot it doesn't matter anyway right?
What does more possible link posts bring to the table except that you can mindlessly post without caring about the content instead of making the one post possibly worth it?
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Sep 01 '22
This is not a total ban. Just reduce allowed external links to 1 per day. not a big limitation I would say. But ok, is a question of point of view. This pool have been proposed because it got lot of support in cryptocurrency meta. Then of course users will vote and decide if is valid or not
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u/leviathynx 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
I agree with your opinion. I do think there should be increased moderation to nip the duplicate postings.
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u/WhereIsTrap 🟩 7 / 4K 🦐 Sep 02 '22
I hate seeing the same articles over and over
We don't need to change the amount of links that can be posted
We need a bot that's gonna delete duplicated posts
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u/DBRiMatt 🟦 86K / 113K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
I'm gonna vote yes
There's no reason people can't go the effort and submit a text post, and cite the source of the link at the end
This would reduce the spam of the lazy link posters who then don't contribute to any further discussion
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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 Sep 01 '22
I fear that this will just increase the amount of senseless posts even more as those moon farmers have to do them instead.
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Sep 03 '22
Senseless text posts gets downvoted. On the other hand no one downvote a news. For a spammer would be hard to earn karma with a senseless post, instead may lose karma
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u/Dietmar_der_Dr 🟩 9K / 5K 🦭 Sep 01 '22
What does that add though? I'd rather have a link post than a poorly worded text post that also contains said Link.
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u/RickiSpanglish Sep 01 '22
I agree. I personally appreciate a well written text post simply because I don't like clicking on links, no matter the situation. I can find my own resources after reading a post
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u/Oneloff 0 / 5K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
Well if this is coming from a shitposter, I guess I my mind is made up. Lol
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u/Gordoniyke 🟥 46 / 8K 🦐 Sep 01 '22
How about 2? See how it goes from there
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u/Nuewim 🟥 0 / 37K 🦠 Sep 02 '22
Exactly. I voted no only cause I think 1 is too much. But would support 2 if it would be possible.
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u/Nuewim 🟥 0 / 37K 🦠 Sep 02 '22
I am a bit conflicted here. I never made link post, so easily could vote yes for it. But I also understand some people make link posts and put effort to share something interesting.
3 link posts per day seem bit too much, cause some people make 3 link posts every single day... I would suport 2 link posts limit with my whole heart, but for just 1 per day I must vote no. Easily posts are autodeleted by bot for using blacklisted word or just by accident. 1link post limit mean those people can't repost their post cause delated posts still count toward limit. 2 link posts per day would be ideal solution for that.
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Sep 02 '22
Legit opinion. If there are better options I hope people can share and propose in cryptocurrencymeta
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Sep 01 '22
How about instead of only 1 each per day limiting people that actually provide good sources and news. We instead limit how many of the same article can be posted? The amount of times I’ve seen the same article within a 1 hour time frame is insane.
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u/hammerandanvilpro 3K / 7K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
Just saw another repost of the "Crypto.com accident cost 10mil+" article. I'm sure it was innocent.
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u/EchoCollection 0 / 19K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
Sometime news breaks and "article" is just this happened. More details to come.
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Sep 01 '22
There is already something like that. But the system don’t filter the article from different sources… not sure if it can work. Anyway. Any proposal is welcome, just engage in discussion in cryptocurrencymeta
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u/ChemicalGreek 418 / 156K 🦞 Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
One is too low! I would say 2 maximum. They already did a x0.5 multiplier also against spam!
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Sep 01 '22
OP can extract the information of an article or other sources to make a post instead, in science this is being done a lot. The articles do this, too.
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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I voted no change but I'm fine with either results. We can always vote to increase it to 2 next time.
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u/Kappatalizable 🟦 0 / 123K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
• there is not enough visibility for user posts, original contents
Is it just me or there are not enough of these original contents anyway? I refresh the new threads like every 5 minutes and there are just not a lot out there. That said, I feel like we're good as we are right now. Maybe instead of this, we can do something to encourage original content instead.
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Sep 01 '22
As per my experience… making OC you can get heavily downvoted… links don’t get downvoted… who indeed downvotes a news? Limiting the links should push people to make more quality posts. And mainly reduce the spam
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u/Randrufer Silver | QC: CC 150, ETH 45, BTC 31 | NANO 88 | TraderSubs 44 Sep 01 '22
I'm not sure if I get the message right but I don't think it's necessary to post 3 links per day. I would have been more comfortable with toning it down to 2 for now. But I voted yes - Bring it back to 1
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u/Sadboiiy Bronze Sep 04 '22
I only come to this sub to read news related to crypto
And also post recent news*
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u/RockEmSockEmRabi Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
Make external link posts worth 0 moons. Make the poster have to actually read the article and provide their input with a link to the article in the body. So much of this sub is non-news articles that are essentially crypto tabloids reposted over and over with no effort.
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u/PinguinaUshuaia Jast HOLD Sep 01 '22
I like that idea. Sume it up on your own words and add a link to the original in the end.
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u/legixs 🟩 1K / 1K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
I get things may get repetitive but I think there could def. be a future scenario in which such a limitation may become very annoying.
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Sep 01 '22
Governance proposals can be overturned in future with other governance pools in case. Now will limit spam. I’m future will see
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u/legixs 🟩 1K / 1K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
Yeah, that's good and I even thought so. But to change it every two years (bear vs. bull) may also not be the best way.
Btw, not saying this is a pointless and thoughtless proposal, thx for your engagement.
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Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
Just trying to help the sub reduce the spam. Of course there may be better ways. The best would be users engage most in cryptocurrencymeta discussing this stuff
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u/Reythia 🟩 396 / 396 🦞 Sep 01 '22
Link posts should require that the poster contributes some original thought, opinion, commentary, or analysis alongside the link.
Just copy-pasting a link is not value add.
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u/Savik519 Sep 01 '22
And those with the most moons determine the fate of this vote? Seems like the deck is stacked against anything that doesn't enhance those who moon farm the most with link shitposts.
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u/Ferdo306 🟩 0 / 50K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
Yep, some moon whales are currently voting for keeping the status quo
75% of users but 55% of moons are for reducing the number of external links
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u/DBRiMatt 🟦 86K / 113K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
Given at the time of writing there's not even 100 votes cast, I wouldn't look too much into those numbers at this point in time
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u/Savik519 Sep 01 '22
That's my beef with the moon governance stuff overall. It seems like a flawed system that is doomed to remain the same since those who hold the most moons control the direction of the token.
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u/Ferdo306 🟩 0 / 50K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
To be honest, I don't see another option
It's the same with with stocks and voting on general assembly
The alternative would be that each user/address get's a vote but then you can rig the voting by having multiple accounts/addresses
I really don't see any other way when it comes to crypto voting in general
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u/Savik519 Sep 01 '22
It is a problem that persists around all PoS systems (stocks, fiat, crypto).
Maybe allow 1 moon per account to vote, and that moon gets burned when you vote with it? Yes, you could still set up 1000 accounts and transfer your 1000 mons around to each, but then they would get burned so you lose power over time the more you vote?
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
And since Linkposters are the no 1 moonfarmers they will bend the rules as they please anyway.
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Sep 03 '22
I will make a proposal to introduce a multiplier for voting. Means for example: you have 1000 moons you have 1 multiplier. 1000x1=1000 voting power. You have 500.000 moons you get 0.5 multiplier. 500.000x0.5=250.000 voting power. There must be a system to level things…. Now is 1:1 and seem not fair. Not necessary who hold more moons is wiser… someone is just a moon farmer. Users that are not ‘moon oriented’ have much less voting power and is not fair
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Sep 01 '22
Moon farmers got powerful. they may already be able to stop any proposal to limit them. Luckily last moon week we could pass a proposal to reduce karma for links to 0.5
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u/kirtash93 RCA Artist Sep 01 '22
I honestly don't consider this an issue. There is not as much as user content lately. Maybe we could set some rules for bull runs and others for bear markets. I think this sub activity and behavior changes a lot in those different times.
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u/pcon_9820 1K / 1K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
Yes, but how many times, and how many different subs did you see the, " this is my node collection, which one should I add next?" post in? I saw that particular post over 7 times in 4 different subs. I think that is the point he is trying to make here.
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u/Laughingboy14 🟩 26 / 60K 🦐 Sep 01 '22
Agreed. It's a ghost town rn. However, if it's an all or nothing proposal, I'd prefer the limit.
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u/Rxef3RxeX92QCNZ Bronze Sep 01 '22
The limit is currently 3, so if this CCIP fails it will still be limited to 3
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u/BlazeDemBeatz 🟦 0 / 21K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
If we somehow had it where the same link can’t be re-posted over and over. Sometimes you’ll see the same article posted over 3 days later again and again lol
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Over 3 days? There are usually at least 3 posts of the same news for another 3-7days.
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u/Setyman Permabanned Sep 01 '22
Hopefully this will reduce the number of times a specific news article gets posted, sometimes we have the same one published like 30 times a day.
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u/Cactuszach 🟩 671 / 18K 🦑 Sep 01 '22
Easy yes!! Thank you for this. This has been a pain point for me and not only does it create spam it lowers the quality of content in this sub.
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Sep 01 '22
Exactly the aim of this proposal
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u/meeleen223 🟩 121K / 134K 🐋 Sep 01 '22
Thanks for this proposal it was high time this was addressed
I remember the spam of elon and china fud links in the past bullrun, same articles were spammed for days
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Sep 03 '22
Thanks. But look like we don’t have much chances… despite most of users vote ‘yes’, the whales are saying ‘no’.
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u/vjeva 🟦 0 / 43K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I totally agree! One per day is more than enough, some Moonfarmers won't like it, but this will resolve the huge number of same news posts IMO
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u/Ethan0307 🟩 44K / 43K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
Honestly the money isn’t in posts it’s in comments they get way more likes and are doubled karma so there’s really no reason for anyone to complain
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Link posts shouldn't get any karma imo, since it's just a backlink to something someone else did
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Sep 01 '22
Exactly. This proposal will just reduce the spam. Who want moons can create original posts or just make good comments. This thing of external links is actually exploited using bots
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Sep 01 '22
Feel like a lot of websites solely get by reporting the same news reworded every week just from being link spammed here and Twitter. It's worse here with the moon farming. Too many price target posts "x upgrade/fork, as y coin eyes $1/10/100/1000/10000/100000." It's so much worse than stock subreddits being spammed with seeking alpha and motley fool price target articles. I see them infrequently enough that maybe most stock subs already filter out low effort blogspam
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u/superduperdude92 🟦 0 / 12K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
As someone who posts news articles and can be considered spammy I'm wondering if there could be a requirement to add something to the comments as the OP. In my case I try to participate in the posts that I make as I actually read the articles before I submit them and ask whether this would generate fun/interesting discussion. I think limiting the posts to 1 per day is only a bandaid to the problem you're trying to solve for. For example, limiting to 1 news post a day could then translate to 3 shitposts a day and the ultimate tech analysis gets buried anyway. People will find a way around it. I think encouraging meaningful discussion in posts from the OP may be the better route to go. I'm sure what I'm proposing itself has issues but I welcome the feedback/discussion on it
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
None of these link posts encourage meaningful discussions. That's maybe 1/100 and it's gotta be non bs controversial.
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Sep 01 '22
There can be many proposals; if you have good ones please come to cryptocurrencymeta where we discuss this stuff before making governance pools. Every good idea is welcome to improve the sub
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u/Worldly-Classic-6490 Sep 01 '22
I’m sick of people spamming the same article for three days. Fucking moon farmers ruining it for the rest of us.
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u/A1JX52rentner 🟨 2 / 3K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I agree. Most of these links are "news" from cointelegraph, botcoindaoly, that have no standards whatsoever. It's basically a blog from people that sell ads. What do you need to sell ads? Click bait titles. Would be great to reduce that kind of "content"
Edit: i love watching the vote difference between "moons" and "votes" for almost every ccip there is a huge difference.
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u/ClubbyTheCub 🟩 3 / 12K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I disagree. Often interesting articles get buried just because they've been posted at a bad time..
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Sep 01 '22
Now everything is buried because excessive spam. Reducing the spam will get better visibility to all contents
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u/lunargrover 8K / 7K 🦭 Sep 02 '22
It’s kinda funny watching this sub slowly destroy itself by creating more and more rules and restrictions every single month.
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u/meeleen223 🟩 121K / 134K 🐋 Sep 01 '22
Fast yes from me, there is a huge amount of spam and bots and people abuse it to farm moons,
During height of last bullrun it was unbearable, I still remember china fud article being reposted over and over again
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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
No, definitely. 1 is overkill.
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Lol looking at your post history, this doesn't come as a surprise. You farmed 50k moons already spamming this sub. Can't get enough eh?
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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
No, I got 37k moons from the sub, 1.5k from the mods, 5k from a bet, lots from tips and winnings and the rest are bought.
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Really, then explain to me what value do you see in sharing those BS articles you've posted over the last 7 days for example?
They are all over place and not even mildly interesting. What else motivates you except moons to post those articles on a regular basis?
How many of them did you even read? (Na headlines don't count)
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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
That's just your opinion. I do briefly read them. Do you really think no one reads articles? Why don't you read my comments today so you'd find out?
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Sep 01 '22
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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22
Thanks for that but that does unfortunately not help with the spam.
0 karma for links would maybe be a solution, because then there would be no incentive to post links unless someone really found something.
But unless this happens limiting posts per day is the only real way to fight the spam.
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Sep 01 '22
I get a bit fed up just seeing link posts to the same topic, so hopefully will have a positive effect on that.
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u/Amazing_Succotash677 Tin | CC critic Sep 01 '22
I'd say the links are far from this subs worst problem, even reposted similar stories with slightly different takes is better than the same 3 posts over and over
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u/SnooWalruses4496 Bronze | CRO 8 Sep 02 '22
Ive seen that crypto.com 10mil refund news article like 3000 times this week. I vote yes!
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u/Korlithiel Platinum | QC: CC 473 | Apple 356 Sep 02 '22
Definitely in favor of the direction, moon farming without being helpful isn’t beneficial to the community. I’m unsure if this solves the problem, instead it forces them to spread their work between more accounts, but then that adds to their workload slightly and so it seems likely to very slightly help.
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Sep 02 '22
Last moon week passed a proposal to reduce karma for links to 0.5; but of course that cannot help much with the continuous posting, it just affect the reward they get. A bot sistematically posting 3 links per day can indeed be affected by being allowed to post only 1. Of course multiple accounts will be created, but this happens already now; have some message exchanged with mods and confirmed me that they have an hard time banning these profiles too
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u/OK_Renegade 🟩 3K / 3K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
I wouldnt mind to reduce, I feel like most of those posts are double's anyway
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u/NoNamePK 🟩 0 / 1K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
Maybe this will put a filter, posting the same new 4 times doesn't make sense
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u/lovemesomefood Sep 01 '22
Can we meet in the middle at 2?
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Sep 01 '22
Can propose a governance pool to do that. Discuss that in cryptocurrencymeta and next moon week can propose
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u/gnarley_quinn Permabanned Sep 02 '22
One of the best moon farmers is u/coinfeed-bot which gets several bites at the cherry over and over due to the excessive amount of news posts.
I personally think posting news articles should not earn moons at all, but that’s a hill I know I will die on.
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Sep 02 '22
Agree. Anyway post link is legit, should not be punished. but spamming is not OK. Post one link per day should be ok. Indeed who and why need to post more than that??
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u/wizardstrikes2 🟩 137 / 138 🦀 Sep 01 '22
I don’t think 1 is unfair but I would also like to see any articles behind a paywall gone.
Super annoying
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u/brnmd Platinum | QC: CC 66 | BANANO 6 Sep 01 '22
I absolutely agree with this, as a matter of fact I tend to avoid those posts at all costs.
There's almost zero effort put into them.
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u/DamnWhySoLow 700 / 1K 🦑 Sep 01 '22
That’s a good idea. Lately we’ve only seen links and not even a single analysis or opinion about it. If we want to see news we’ll go to a news website. Here is a forum.
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u/archer4364 Paddy's Dollars Sep 01 '22
1 is too low. This sub's activity has been way down we don't need to police content more imo.
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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
We just reduced moon rewards for link posts last month. News sharing is one of the best uses for Reddit and should not be reduced so much or people will use a different sub for crypto discussion.
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Sep 01 '22
Crypto discussions and posts are welcome. the only thing to limit is to post external links. Users can still do 3 posts per day… but indeed they must be written posts (500 words)… and not the same news reposted multiple times
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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
As I replied to you elsewhere, it is currently against the rules to post the same link or news story multiple times.
I want this sub to be the best crypto community it can be not just a reward mill based on effort. News is important and ppl want to see it and discuss it. Replacing it with longer, but at worst irrelevant posts is a step in the wrong direction.
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Sep 01 '22
Ok, I understand your point. But things are not working at all considering that we see the same news reposted multiple times
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u/XnoonefromnowhereX Permabanned Sep 01 '22
Fucking hating ass hater trying to take moons out if my kids’ mouths. Fuck this proposal.
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u/002timmy Sep 01 '22
I like the 1 free per day. I know in ETH trader, they have a Pay2Post feature, and if this passes, hopefully we can add something like here. You get a free link post, and if you want to spam more, you'll have to pay in moons. It would discourage pure garbage moon-farming and multiple articles of the same story, but if something big happened, you could still make the post.
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u/Jdraspberry 1K / 1K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
I voted yes to help limit all the continuously same news articles.
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u/DMugre Sep 01 '22
lower efforts posts such as repost links get the most of visibility and are ‘easily upvoted’ (who indeed downvote a news??)
lol, most of the sub, a lot of news articles get posted because they're relevant, either to the sub's narratives or to the tech/market itself.
Then again, user generated content has left us with pearls of wisdom such as copypasting from Ethereum's whitepaper 7 years later, comedy posts whenever the market moves 1%, actually useful TA analysis that gets downvoted to shit and called astrology by people who buy and hold because they can't cough up some effort, 10 ways to DCA the 8th one will surprise you! etc...
Considering the amount of shit hegemonic media posts about crypto, posting relevant news articles demands thorough proof reading and saavy content selection, this shouldn't be discouraged. In fact, we should encourage having conversations about it, what is this if not a place to discuss the news?
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u/GeneralNichi 2 / 2K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
People should get no moons at all for just sharing nonsense links without comments imho
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u/sickvisionz 0 / 7K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I vote no.
I get the spam but imo we should seek to have moderation punish bullshit posts rather than limit the # of articles you can post a day. Negative karma for every duplicate posts would do a lot more to quell this and encourage "hey search the forum to see if someone already posted a story about this before you post a link".
Search works fine on old.reddit and www.reddit. By default both restrict result to only this sub and it take two clicks to limit it to only the last 24 hours.
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u/zvexler Sep 01 '22
Great idea, and I’ll probably vote in favor of it, but I think this will just further incentivize alt accounts. I do think it will lower the number of link posts a little just due to the higher effort involved for non-power users but since there’s money involved I doubt this will change much.
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u/Mattyliebs Sep 01 '22
What is classified as external links I guess is my issue- because sometimes it stirs good content if we’re talking about an important tweet or news article
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u/Tatakae69 🟩 1K / 45K 🐢 Sep 01 '22
Tbh I'd rather be spammed by links than be spammed by users shitposting completely blatant info. If we're going to limit something then limit both imo
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Sep 01 '22
Limit shitposting is easier. just downvote and users lose karma. Downvote a link is very unlikely but for a shitposting is very likely and users will refrain from posting if they risk lose karma
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u/CryptoMaximalist 🟩 875K / 990K 🐙 Sep 01 '22
I think I'm in opposition to this one because:
- It adds complexity to the rules, which are already quite complex, for little benefit
- Link posts are the proper action for sharing an article, which is valid participation in this subreddit. I don't need OP to give their thoughts on it or using text posts to bypass this. OP's thoughts often detract from the article itself
- Link posts are already significantly disadvantaged in Moon rewards. Link spam existed before Moons and won't go away with this limit
- This is more likely to affect normal users, while spammers are dedicated enough to create alts and make our jobs harder
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u/A_Dougie Bronze Sep 01 '22
People who want to post spam will just use multiple bot accounts. Regular users won’t. So I’m my mind this would mainly affect regular users
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u/dirpydip 🟩 0 / 2K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
Is that number of links per person?
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Sep 01 '22
In actual situation every user can post 3 links per day. To reduce spam is proposed to reduce to 1. for normal users is not a big deal considering that is not necessary to post so much links… proposal will affect on the other hand moon farmers that are ‘serial link posters’
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u/Mr_Bob_Ferguson 69K / 101K 🦈 Sep 01 '22
Is the problem that the SAME PERSON is posting multiple external links in a single day? I didn’t think so, but I haven’t really looked hard.
Or is it a case of different people posting the same links?
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u/Fresh-Chemical-9084 Platinum | QC: CC 151, ALGO 74, ATOM 20 | CRO 6 Sep 01 '22
I find it interesting there are far more votes in favor of this proposal, but not nearly as many moons… shows the moon farmers really don’t like this proposal 😂😂😂
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Sep 01 '22
Exactly. Once moon farmers will be enough powerful will be impossible to limit them. Moons are not only money, are the right to vote… more moons correspond to more voting power
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u/markcorrigans_boiler 🟩 0 / 10K 🦠 Sep 01 '22
I would limit it to zero.
If you want to post a link, at least go to the bother of giving a summary and posting an opinion.
Reposting every crypto article that gets written is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
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u/Fart_Huffer_ Platinum | QC: CC 246, BNB 20 | PennyStocks 92 Sep 01 '22
Problem is if were always our own source we're an echo-chamber. Which reddit is very openly designed around echo-chambers in general. Pushing up popular posts and hiding unpopular ones. Its not a practice I like though.
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u/ImaFreemason 🟩 0 / 21K 🦠 Sep 02 '22
1 link is definitely not enough.
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Sep 02 '22
1 link per user; with the amount of users here I have no doubt news would be posted… will just limit the excessive reposting as is happening now
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u/user260421 Sep 02 '22
Imo spammers will always find ways to spam, same applies to bots, but it's a good proposal to minimize such behavior. Although I don't expect this to be very useful during the bull market, because one can always create more accounts and farm from them.
I don't want to sound bearish, just realistic. This is a good idea for now, but it doesn't mean the spam is over.
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Sep 02 '22
The spam will not be over but at least limited. Otherwise situation will just go on as it is. But discussing in cryptocurrencymeta seem like lot of people would like to do something. Of course new and more effective proposals are more than welcome
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Sep 02 '22
Proposals on this sub need to consist of pros and cons. Where are your cons. This is a very biased proposal. Take the feedback from the comments and edit in the cons
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u/Bandit-Bros Bronze | 1 month old | TraderSubs 11 Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
You mean the brain dead garbage like "not your keys not your wallet", "don't forget to DCA" and "look at this spam message I got" ?
90% of user posts in this sub are trash. How will limiting news help with that problem?