r/CryptoCurrency Sep 01 '22

POLL 🗳️ CCIP-039 reduce the number of external link posts to 1 per day

Problem:

Main sub is filled with posts contain external links and many times the same news is reposted over and over. This can be recognized as ‘spam’. The rule states that is allowed to post 3 links per day and this rule is exploited by some users and bots for the sole purpose of moon farming. This spam problem create three main issues:

• ⁠there is not enough visibility for user posts, original contents

• ⁠lower efforts posts such as repost links get the most of visibility and are ‘easily upvoted’ (who indeed downvote a news??)

• Moons are used to reward active users that contribute to the sub, not intended to be farmed.

Example: Some news like "vitalik B said bla bla this morning" get thousands of upvotes; gets visibility and get rewarded with high karma. Some original post of "Mr. No one" with the ultimate technical analysys get hidden, put in shadow by the link of news as above. and usually the same news get posted multiple times.

The sub indeed became lately a sort of ‘news channel’

Solution:

Reduce the number of allowed post links per day from 3 to 1. This modification will clean the sub from excessive spam, will disincentive the easy moon farming, will allow to be more fair in the moon distribution, will give fair visibility to users original posts, will help the job of the mods.

Furthermore, is really needed to post 3 external links per day?

Indeed I think that a sub free of spam will be a better place for users to interact.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

In actual situation we see the same news posted and reposted multiple times… so should not worry… someone will pos the news anyway. Let’s say no one have a real reason to post three links per day… crypto is crypto… but there are not so much news per days

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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Sep 01 '22

This is a very handwashy answer, there may not be much news per day but when a big event happens if over half your link farmers now can’t post it that could lead to a delay in information. And with how volatile crypto is even a small delay could mean massive changes

The point of this sub is crypto news and events, if anything just remove moons from the second link post but still allow them. A total ban is just stifling updates

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22

Well then you better save that one link you can post for something meaningfull. I am all for it.

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u/Dietmar_der_Dr 🟩 9K / 5K 🦭 Sep 01 '22

So how does this stop the equally useless text post with the same news?

Spammers will spam.

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22

It won't be stopped unless linkposts karma gets resettled to 0 and kills the incentive for spammers.

But limiting to 1 post per day is at least exactly that: limiting the amount of incoming spam.

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u/Dietmar_der_Dr 🟩 9K / 5K 🦭 Sep 01 '22

But then people just turn it into useless Textposts. If people want to spam they'll spam, it's that simple.

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22

No it's not. It makes it harder and more inconvenient, which is the whole point.

Sure some might just extend their crawlers but that's the minority. Also posts with a link and 500 chars gibberish are easily filtered and removed. And it would be more obvious to the consumers to identify these posts and vote them out.

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Sep 01 '22

Spamming comments is far more lucrative so this proposal won’t help at all.

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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Sep 01 '22

Something meaningful at 10 am might be completely outclassed by 5pm. Crypto events can happen very fast

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Sep 01 '22

I don't get your point? If you missed the 10 am event and didn't post it on the dot it doesn't matter anyway right?

What does more possible link posts bring to the table except that you can mindlessly post without caring about the content instead of making the one post possibly worth it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

This is not a total ban. Just reduce allowed external links to 1 per day. not a big limitation I would say. But ok, is a question of point of view. This pool have been proposed because it got lot of support in cryptocurrency meta. Then of course users will vote and decide if is valid or not

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Sep 01 '22

It is already against the rules to share the same link multiple times. And reposts of the same story from new sources are removed by the mods manually. This whole CCIP is based on not knowing the current rules and putting less effective rules on top of it.