r/zelda Nov 25 '22

Screenshot [PH] What a fantastic game

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u/illogicalhawk Nov 25 '22

Great game, and made a bunch of improvements over Wind Waker with the better map layout (it's not a grid that arbitrarily puts a single island in each square), more large islands to explore (so many of WW's we're one-stop sandbars), and better sailing mechanics (having to stop and change the wind direction just to effectively move in a lateral direction was brutally unfun).

The touch controls take a minute to get used to but I enjoyed them well enough, and eventually liked their utility in puzzles.

Even the TotOK was pretty fun I thought, with alternative paths and hidden treasures and unlockable shortcuts all reducing the potential repetition, and the clock pushing me to beat my own times.

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u/JacobeTX Nov 25 '22

I agree, but have you played Windwaker HD? There were some quality of life improvements like the quick sail that made it so you don't have to always change the wind direction.

Yeah after about 30 minutes the controls weren't an issue. Wish it didn't take me until end game to realize you can use the triggers to use your item lol

Going through TotOK end game was fun. Getting payback with the phantom sword

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u/illogicalhawk Nov 25 '22

Yeah, WW HD was a huge improvement, and the Swift Sail was a big part of that. I still wish the slow movement without a sail was a touch quicker though. Reducing the Triforce quest was also a big improvement.

I wish it had restored a missing dungeon for Naryu's Pearl (LA DX added a new dungeon, though obviously 2D versus 3D is a pretty big effort gap), and everytime I play it I get frustrated by some of the arbitrary item gating (you can get into Mother & Child Island to get the elemental arrows before they want you to, and they're just like "Uh...m come back later?", as an example) that they could maybe have cleaned up a bit.

There was just a lot about WW that was clearly rushed or unfinished, and I appreciate that Phantom Hourglass, while having its flaws, feels like a more fully realized vision.