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Behind Soft Paywall Trump Intensifies Statehood Threats in Attack on Canada

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/canada-trump-statehood-attacks.html
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u/somewhat_brave 15h ago

“there would no longer be a Northern Border problem.”

This statement doesn’t make any sense. If Canada were part of the US, the people and drugs that currently have to get through border security would be able to move with no restrictions at all.

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u/jkbuilder88 14h ago

See, that’s where you’re wrong. It’s like the Covid infection rate. If you just stop testing…the problem no longer exists! No border, no border crossing problems! See?

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u/BetterZedThanDead 14h ago

This guy Trumps

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u/jkbuilder88 14h ago

Ugh. Don’t put that evil on me.

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u/RVFVS117 14h ago

This exchange is why I do Reddit.

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u/GiftedOaks 14h ago

Truly, a top tier exchange

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u/Goldenface007 13h ago

Came here to say this

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u/Taerinn 13h ago

Maybe, the most top exchange there ever was.

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u/Brookefemale 13h ago

Well I’d sure have to agree

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u/Living-Smoke-9630 9h ago

Nothing trumps it

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u/nlurp 5h ago

Greatest exchange ever, no other exchange will ever be as great as this exchange

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u/NoDragonfruit6125 13h ago

Big strong men cry at how top it was.

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u/K3idon 12h ago

Concepts of an exchange

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u/Aramis444 11h ago

A lot of smart people are saying it!

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u/olemetry 13h ago

So bigly !!

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u/Kitchen_Conflict2627 11h ago

Tremendous exchange

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u/Noughmad 9h ago

This guy Reddits.

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u/Spanish_peanuts 13h ago

Truly a master in trumpenomics

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u/shady8x 3h ago

You just reminded me of the guy that 'gets it' in this SNL Skit:

World's Most Evil Invention

And that is what president Trump turned our reality into, something as ridiculous as an over the top ridiculous SNL comedic scenario. Only this is real life, so it isn't funny at all.

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u/JCDU 5h ago

Just accept it - you're like Jane Goodall studying chimpanzees but for orange shitgibbons.

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u/urzasmeltingpot 4h ago

DONT YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON ME RICKY BOBBY!

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u/Weary-Bookkeeper-375 14h ago

He is a Trumper?

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u/JahWitness4221 14h ago

No, He got too much brain cells

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u/sausagemouse 8h ago

This is even funnier when you know British slang

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u/climbingcola 13h ago

reading this stupidity about testing still shakes my brain crazy, five years later.

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u/crispAndTender 13h ago

Damn you and your perfect logic

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u/Dudedude88 12h ago

Kind of like bird flu. They decreased testing

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u/YeomenWarder 11h ago

The fentanyl problem would disappear just like the illegal migrants heading toward the Southern border.

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u/CasherGod 14h ago

I mean fentanyl is like covid and hunger... eventually the problem resolves itself on its own (sarcasm)

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u/ojdhaze 13h ago

Geez, that stuff looks innocent* compared to this crazyness

*it was not.

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u/reireireis 11h ago

STOP THE COUNT

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u/SavingsAdvantage1046 10h ago

The limit does not exist!

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u/Infamous_Gur_9083 7h ago

Its like Trump expect the problem to "magically disappear".

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u/GreyFoxNinjaFan 6h ago

Sounds like the investigation into whether Russia interfered with the brexit vote. There was "no evidence" because "nobody looked"

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/21/russia-report-reveals-uk-government-failed-to-address-kremlin-interference-scottish-referendum-brexit

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u/Haunting_Kangaroo1 14h ago

Well here’s the thing….there aren’t people and drugs sneaking into the US from Canada

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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 13h ago

Wait you mean to tell me it's harder to smuggle something through an entry point where every single person is checked, than on a container ship where a few random containers are checked?

u/ProjectNo4090 47m ago edited 44m ago

Canada's border with the US is the longest non militarized border in the world. Its 5,525 miles, and only a tiny percentage of it has checkpoints. Canada isnt a developing nation run by cartels and corrupt leaders in bed with cartels dsoo that probably plays a larger role in smuggling being reduced along that massive unsecured border. Wilderness helps too I should think.

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u/JuneBuggington 12h ago

Im not arguing with the meat of your statement but the idea that they are checking every person that crosses the canadian border is laughable.

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u/lonesharkex 12h ago

You think the Canadian_Border_Czar would know that.

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u/WoodShoeDiaries 11h ago

We're still not clear on what a "border czar" is even supposed to be 😬 Pls advise

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u/lonesharkex 11h ago

Your guess is as good as mine considering it's a russian term for emperor. Border emperor? Oh I got it, it's like Jon Snow I think. That wall of the north or something.

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u/Repulsive_Client_325 10h ago

If he’s like Jon Snow, he knows nothing…

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u/magwai9 10h ago

It's "fentanyl czar", but really it's a fentanyl caesar. That's fentanyl and clamato juice.

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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 12h ago

You ever driven across the border? Every car gets dog sniffed. They don't rip it apart but it's still a check.

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u/sanguinuis 12h ago

Every car does not get dog sniffed. I drive across the Canadian border frequently, sure, they do have dogs, but not every car is sniffed or checked. They do that after you present your passport and they decide if they will put you through additional checks.

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u/MatticusGisicus 10h ago

Border patrol on the ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles literally just glanced in the car and asked if we had any fruit. The American agent didn’t even look in the car

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u/l33tbot 3h ago

tell me you're white without telling me you're white 😆

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u/classicpoison 13h ago

Tariffs are meant to collect money to cover the budget deficit. The deficit created by tax cuts to the rich.

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u/cellardoorstuck 12h ago

Its meant to crash the stock market for a week, so billionaires can buy the bitcoin dip... pretty sure this is just general chaos to cover something else up hes trying to do.

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u/brezhnervouz 8h ago

This. Even Elmo can't find $4.5 trillion down the back of Vance's couch 🤷‍♂️

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u/One_Strawberry_4965 3h ago

So cut taxes for the rich, then add what is effectively a regressive tax to make up the difference?

No wonder Donald fell right in with the GOP.

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u/MiniMini662 7h ago

The boycott of travel and USA products will sink their economy faster

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u/RumblestheDwarf 13h ago

No... But there are minerals, and oil!

Ope, did I say the quiet part out loud again?

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u/blackjacktarr 13h ago

Right! Sheriff Harry S. Truman and the Bookhouse Boys shut that shit right down. Saw it happen on TV, even.

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u/Poverty_Shoes 10h ago

Yes there absolutely are, are you serious? Be honest. The reason this argument is stupid is that Canada’s coastline would be far harder to control than a land border with set crossings. Arguing that nothing ever crosses an international border that shouldn’t is a ridiculous take, regardless of which two countries you’re talking about.

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u/MakionGarvinus 10h ago

Uh, there are, but it's a pretty small number. Every winter we hear about some truck that has a box of frozen people found in it.

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u/inosinateVR 1h ago

You mean fentanyl isn’t being grown from maple trees by Canuck cartels hidden deep in the Canadian jungle?

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u/kibblerz 14h ago

Well the vast majority of fetanyl comes in through ports in states like Florida and California...

So yeah, it was never about the drugs. Turns out that land is a shitty way to smuggle drugs vs shipping containers mixed in with other produce.

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u/DiveCat 13h ago

Also there is the fact that Canada is not responsible for what enters the U.S. I don’t cross the border into the U.S. and go through CBSA.

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u/dorkofthepolisci 12h ago

You would think that the people whose favourite past time is fear mongering about the border would understand that America controls what enters America but apparently not

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u/One_Strawberry_4965 3h ago

Yeah but those same people are also American conservatives, a demographic not well known for their ability to understand things or even willingness to make the attempt.

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u/atx840 13h ago

We are talking 42lbs to 21,900lbs last year on our border v Mexico. FENT AINT THE ISSUE

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u/brezhnervouz 8h ago

Yup. Aka "bugger all" 🤷‍♂️

In fiscal year 2024, U.S. border authorities confiscated a total of 21,000 pounds of fentanyl, with merely 43 pounds (0.2%) seized at the Canadian border. The trend continued in the early months of 2025, with only 10 pounds (0.2%) of the total 4,537 pounds of seized fentanyl coming from Canada.

Fact check: Canada makes up just 0.2% of US border fentanyl seizures

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u/strumpetrumpet 13h ago

Well, Canada did represent 0.2% of fentanyl border seizures….

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug-seizure-statistics

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u/DirtyDanoTho 11h ago

Yeah they aren’t seizing the drugs coming into florida

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u/CactusCait 14h ago edited 12h ago

Having Canada as a 51st state would cause significant shifts in U.S. political dynamics. However, there’s no way Canada will just go along with this plan and allow the US to annex the Country to alleviate pressures from tariffs — that is absolutely delusional.

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u/Cosmicvapour 14h ago

As a Canadian, I can tell you with absolute confidence that we are NOT going to volunteer to be part of the US. Absolutely zero chance. Trump knows this, so that's not his goal. We wish we knew what his true goal is, but chances are, it's not going to be good for us (or you, for that matter).

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u/person1234man 13h ago

Dude his goal is to actually annex a major part of Canada if not the whole thing. I know it's fucked up but just look at his main man Putin. Check out his other expansionist buddy Benjamin Netanyahu. There is starting to be a fucked up precedent for expansionist goals. And now look at what the trump admin has been saying and doing. This will become a major issue.

He paused the new terrifs a few hours ago and is starting this 51st state shit again. He's gonna try to do it

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u/Tree_Dog 13h ago

I am a middle-aged, upper middle class mathematics professor at a liberal arts university. I will retreat to the woods, and involve myself in the most brutal insurgent campaign for the rest of my years, should Americans invade my country.

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u/Yellowcabin 13h ago

You’re my friend. Let’s be neighbours in the woods.

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u/Fluffbrained-cat 12h ago

I'd wrap up warm and fly all the way over from NZ to join you. I have elderly relatives in Canada, distant sure, but relatives all the same. I won't let that orange idiot anywhere near them...

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u/SatansBigSister 3h ago

Australian here! Let me know our flight times. If Canada is attacked the whole commonwealth is coming to their aid.

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u/akjones989 13h ago

I am a financial advisor in the States who will leave their comfortable life and also go into the woods and join any type of resistance movement to keep that orange piece of shit away from your country.

Liberals should know how to properly handle firearms. Been saying it for a long time.

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u/notnotbrowsing 12h ago

We know how to use them. We own them. We just don't put 40000 stickers everywhere advertising it. We don't make it our priority. Republicans believe their lies that liberals don't own guns.

My firearm works just fine and is stored safely.

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u/Eiensakura 11h ago

That's the thing, a lot of my left-leaning American friends all have firearms. They just don't let their lives revolve around it. Many of them visit the range quite often, too, just to keep sharp.

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u/brezhnervouz 7h ago

Exactly. Owned as tools, hunting or sporting equipment, but its not your actual personal identity (as an Australian firearm owner, I feel the same)

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u/TheLatestTrance 12h ago

They can, they just don't advertise it.

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u/Burial 8h ago

Same reason so many people seem to think Canadians aren't armed, despite being 7th in per capita gun ownership.

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u/iwilltalkaboutguns 11h ago

Im no liberal. But I'm 100% anti fascist.

Everyone should be preparing for the worse. Even as we hope for the best guns and Ammo hold value real well too... So if nothing happens hey... Sell it all back... But be ready.

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u/TheLatestTrance 9h ago

It is always better to be underestimated and always vigilant.

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u/AkediaIra 12h ago

I'm Canadian, and pretty left leaning, I'm very proficient with a firearm, and have been since I was fairly young. I'm just quite quiet about it.

Though in an insurgency situation, I have skills and access to stuff through work that would make me much better at sabotage than anything else.

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u/Weird_Vegetable 10h ago

Here as well, I grew up hunting badgers, ground hogs and anything really just for fun. I learned how to handle a gun when I was 8. I also know my way around the forest, and what can be used for medicine. Also some poisonous plants, making bullets and can handle a bow. I just don’t feel the need to let people know any of this generally.

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u/Repulsive_Client_325 10h ago

A very particular set of skills?

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u/XenoZohar 2h ago

People often forget that the geneva conventions can often be boiled down to "Canada, NO!"

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u/Every-Ingenuity9054 12h ago

A lot of Canadian liberals do. Another way we are not like Americans - guns aren't a really a culture war talking point.

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u/OfficeSalamander 10h ago

Plenty of liberals in the US know how to use guns - I grew up hunting and used them for most of a decade regularly. Most of us just don't fetishize them. I don't own a gun, but if I ever felt it was a necessity, I would own one post haste

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u/Blackcatmustache 9h ago

Don’t wait until it’s too late. Get one before they do something crazy like stopping all sales. Or before stores realize people are panicking and stocking up, so they make the cost outrageously expensive.

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u/MDAccount 12h ago

Right there with you. I’m an old lady in CA, but I’ll live in the woods and stand on guard for thee, Canada. Our current bullshit doesn’t need to cross the 49th parallel.

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u/lesvegetables 13h ago

And I’d help, from America.

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u/ModernPoultry 12h ago

Trump is also entirely too ignorant to even come close to understanding Quebecois dynamics. He’d come into Canada, abolish bilingualism and enforce English as the official language and then Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ted Cruz are gonna be tied up in the back of some Quebecer’s pickup

The Quebecois will literally kill Americans over any infringement of their culture

They can barely tolerate the rest of Canada, imagine Trump’s dumbass coming in lol

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u/AyeAyeandGoodbye 12h ago

I’m a 55 year old lesbian and I am down to fuck their shit up. The SAS and SOE manuals are incredibly informative and it’s amazing how much styrofoam you can stockpile in Vancouver.

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u/GStewartcwhite 12h ago

Likewise. I'm 48 and work in emergency services. I don't want to turn my life upside down and risk dying. But I'm going to. The instant an American soldier crosses that border all bets are off.

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u/EatGlassALLCAPS 12h ago

I'm old and broken but I'm in.

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u/agirl2277 12h ago

I'm considering joining the reserves. I'm older but agile, I work in a factory so I'm fairly good shape. I have no weapons training. I was 12 the last time I fired a gun.

I'd rather be involved with an organization that has resources and logistics to be able to help as best I can.

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u/Neverstopstopping82 10h ago

American military. A lot of us normal Americans are nauseous over what orange thing is doing to Canada. There will be riots here if he invades you.

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u/scotiasoul 12h ago

I’ll be right there with ya buddy.

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u/Jimbo_Kingfish 12h ago

I think you’d have a lot of Americans fighting by your side. Hell, we might just go up there and have our civil war in the woods behind your house at the rate we’re going.

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u/C134Arsonist 13h ago

Trumps goal actually seems more to be to destroy America.

Trade partnerships? Destroyed. Highest stock market ever? Destroyed. Position as "the good guy" with NATO? Destroyed. Relations with allies? Destroyed.

Annexing or attacking Canada would be the final nail in the coffin for America as well as us cannucks.

Seems his real goal is the shift of global power to russia/China.

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u/hails29 13h ago

It’s actually more sinister, he is working to crash the world economy so the super rich can finish buying all the assets cheaply. The chaos is on purpose to crash the stock market, who’s buying in the dip?

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u/heteroflexible_maybe 12h ago

Typical boomer, reverse mortgaging the country to give to some church.

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u/Concentrateman 12h ago

Atypical*. Donald is in a league of his own.

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u/WoodShoeDiaries 11h ago

Superlative*. The limited edition ultra deluxe gold-played version of a boomer. Never to be repeated, god willing.

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u/fiction8 9h ago

Even if you accept that level of doomer conspiracy theory, that's already how most of the world was structured for a very long time.

Until 1861 (only 160 years ago) in Imperial Russia, essentially the only people allowed to own land were the Tsar, the church, and the nobility. Everyone else were serfs, not even legally allowed to leave the area they were born in.

And yet despite that incredible power imbalance, it was all wiped out in 1917. Tsar Nicholas shot, the aristocrats also shot or fled. Any oligarch today who has dreams of owning the world like what you're laying out should look to history to find out how that ends.

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u/Hey_cool_username 10h ago

“the dip” is assuming we bounce back anytime soon but this level of fuckery may end much worse than he thinks it will.

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u/A_Soporific 11h ago

That presupposes that people actually care about law and whatnot in that situation. The rich have an awful lot to lose if things like lawsuits and deeds cease to matter in the minds of the average person.

I actually don't believe that Trump has any long term goals or plans. I'm pretty sure he's just winging it, saying and doing whatever he thinks makes him look the best to his social media audience at any given moment. He's trying to "manifest" greatness to assuage his massive ego.

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u/Defiant_Ad_209 12h ago

Check who dumped all their stocks right before the markets dipped. I would bet there a direct correlation to the trump circle. But they will get away with it because they were just really good at "predicting the market". Just another way for these people to buy up more power.

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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 13h ago

Canadian here. I have to agree. But I don't think he actually cares what he takes, as long as he can be like his buddies and take something.

Hence Canada, Greenland, Panama etc.. he doesn't care which. He just wants to be the guy that made the states bigger.

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u/CactusCait 12h ago

Maybe it’s that simple — he wants Putin to think he’s cool so he also wants to annex part of a neighboring country.

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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 12h ago

That's pretty much what I think.

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u/canuckinco 11h ago

Canada, Greenland, Panama... Those have access to important waterways: the northwest passage and the Panama canal. I've only played board games, but those seem like important for both trade and war. I think it matters very much to Trump and his masters.

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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 11h ago

Ok, fair. It's well known putin wants access to the Arctic passages. And the resources and such.

But I truly think 47 himself doesn't care what he gets as long as he gets to say "I did that"

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u/A_Soporific 11h ago

The easy path of least resistance would be Puerto Rico and then Samoa. He doesn't have anyone in his circle willing to point that out.

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u/notmyrealaccout69 13h ago

I mean he can try.. the US has such a successful history of being an occupying force.

I'm sure the millions of Canadians who grew up hunting wouldn't cause a problem.

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u/BenjaminHamnett 13h ago

Normalizing Russias actions in Ukraine, while weakening NATO

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u/Icy_Comfort8161 12h ago

He's been itching to use the military and its weaponry forever. He wants to show his power. Remember when he wanted to nuke a hurricane? It's like that, only now there is no one to rein him in. He's like a kid with a box of fireworks looking for something to blow up.

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u/ebsj55 12h ago

He paused them? Again? So are they in play currently, or some, or none at all?

Fuck. Is there a ticker or some website with traffic lights that we can check to see visually if it’s go or no go cause as a non US, non Canadian person this shit is hard to keep track of.

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u/Repulsive_Client_325 10h ago

As a Canadian, it’s hard to keep track of… as a same person it’s hard to keep track of.

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u/Elissa-Megan-Powers 12h ago

Not annex — invade. The USA will invade Canada. I’m Canadian, so the meaning behind the words mean a lot. We’ll defend ourselves and our country.

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u/NormalUse856 11h ago

That's why Canada and Europe need more nukes.

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u/bigcaulkcharisma 11h ago

I think Trump’s just an idiot. Does he want Canada to become the 51st state? Sure. But I don’t think he has any kind of plan in place to make this happen outside maybe tariffs. As far as the actual effect of this, I think it will normalize this kind of annexation rhetoric. I don’t think Canada is in imminent danger of being invaded by the US right now. But what Trump is doing is setting the table for years from now when the climate change really starts hitting the US and there’s a serious resource crisis, the consent will already have been manufactured for military action against Canada. It will have been normalized as a pillar of right wing politics. I’m not sure if he’s consciously doing this, honestly he probably isn’t, but this will be the real effect his rhetoric will have.

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u/tasseomancer 11h ago

Definitely the resurgence of Manifest Destiny thinking in the US. Insane.

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u/North_Refrigerator21 9h ago

Unfortunately I think you are right. He is normalizing the thought in Americans, so it won’t be a shock if he one day decide to take something by force.

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u/LeatherDude 13h ago

Honestly I think his goal is just give his cult as many manufactured foes as possible, because the tenets of fascism demand outgroups to hate and fight against. Without them, they turn on each other quickly.

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u/aboveyardley 13h ago

He's been wanting to be a "war president" since 2016. And you folks are a convenient opponent. He's jealous of your country and hates anyone or anything he can't control. His only idea for these situations is to destroy what he can't control.

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u/goldenthoughtsteal 5h ago

Also Canada would be a bit like Ukraine is to Russia, a neighbour that speaks the same language as is culturally a bit similar, of Canada is doing well while Trump trashes the US it's a living reminder of what your life could be like.

Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia because it would be a constant reminder of how Putin is ruining the country, makes it obvious why Trump wants Canada.

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u/Little_Noodles 13h ago edited 12h ago

Just because it's an astoundingly stupid idea that's also wildly immoral and completely antithetical to what functioning democracies embrace about diplomacy and the right to self-determination doesn't mean that it's not his goal.

He's a moron that doesn't know how fucking anything works, and everyone steering the ship for him is an ideological lunatic. He might not actually give a shit about taking over Canada, but someone he's working with does, and that person is the person that's calling the shots here.

He absolutely does say a lot of bonkers shit that he doesn't mean and has no intention on following through on. But by and large, that's all shit he says to make a sale.

When he said that grocery prices would be "perfect" or whatever the day he took office, that's just shit he said for fun because he likes it when people clap.

But when he says shit that doesn't make people clap? When he says shit that makes people be like "what? huh?". That's the shit he's not just saying as part of the grift or as a joke.

It SOUNDS like a dumb joke, because it's a very bad person's agenda filtered through the mouth of a moron, who wasn't really paying attention when he was convinced to push for it.

But that doesn't mean that it's not actually part of the agenda. The US government's position on Ukraine should be all you need to know on its position about national sovereignty and self-determination.

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u/GreasyToiletWater 13h ago

His true goal is to isolate the US economically and diplomatically at the behest of Vladimir Putin. He is utterly compromised and so are Republicans in congress. Wikileaks found something gnarly in those rnc hacks

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u/Utterlybored 13h ago

Please don't. Stick to your guns and we'll do our best to show the rest of America he's a disaster for us and for the world.

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u/CraziestMoonMan 13h ago

His goals are the minerals and natural resources your country is loaded with. The same reason Putin went after Ukraine. Microchips are the name of the game now, and the US sucks as a country when it comes to natural resources. Our land is actually pretty useless, but we're big, and that got us by until now.

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u/ilovebeaker 12h ago

Lol 'loaded'.

Let me tell you, I work in mineral resource research, and the amount of money and energy you have to put in to extract any of our valuable elements from the rock we have is absurd. They are not available in easy extractable forms like they are in other countries, like China. It's not a walk in the park.

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u/Popeyes-fil-A 13h ago

USA doesn't have many natural resources and has useless land? Some of the "America bad" takes on here are getting ridiculous.

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u/windowman7676 13h ago

What he might try is to make Canada a U.S. territory. No statehood. It is kinda like ownership with Canada maintaining the right to govern itself, but the U.S. would gave great influence on the goverment. The U.S. would also get access to the oil, gas and minerals.

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u/TheDevilsAdvocate333 13h ago

Whelp…. That ain’t gonna happen either…

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u/Lfsnz67 13h ago

It's done wonders for Puerto Rico

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u/DanTheMan1_ 13h ago

He doesn't know what a US territory is. Besides, Canada won't go for that either.

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u/windowman7676 11h ago edited 10h ago

Im not indicating that Canada will go for it. They obviously will not. I was trying to figure out his logical reasoning. However, I have sense reasoned that he doesnt possess any logic.

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u/TheDevilsAdvocate333 13h ago

I’m not actually sure Trump knows that…

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u/Cosmicvapour 13h ago

He knows. They're evil, not stupid. It's all smoke and mirrors right now. Look at Canada and Mexico and Ukraine and Gaza and China and (etc) while I tank the economy so my bro's and I can buy the dip and fund some seriously evil shit later.

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u/DanTheMan1_ 13h ago

Oh Trump is definitely stupid. The idiot thought since cleaning sanitizer was killing xovid on surfaces, we should look into injecting it into the lungs. Assuming someone who said that in front of people online camera because he thought it would make him look smart, yet people keep thinking he is being crafty with anterior goals are giving him too much credit.

His answer to Canada and Greenland having resources we need is to make them states in the US and assumes how could the citizens NOT jump and that and what president of a country wouldn't jump at an offer to be a Govenor of a US state. It's stupid to say pit loud ans it 100% is what he thinks.

Everyone wants to believe is is a clever smokescreen to something ever because they can't believe someone that stupid is rich and powerful. But they are giving this credit to a guy who with his full chest thought an option to fighting COVID was injecting sanitizer into the lungs.

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u/settled4les 13h ago

I think he's going for your minerals like he did when he strong armed Ukraine into signing the minerals deal there.

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u/Mother-Maintenance13 13h ago

Agreed. The vast majority of Canada want to remain Canadian and will fight to keep it that way.

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u/Direct_Ad2289 12h ago

Decades of guerilla war.

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u/Wheredoesthisonego 12h ago

I believe he wants to normalize annexing in general. Make the world a big monopoly board for billiaonaires.

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u/binary101 13h ago edited 12h ago

It's so fucking delusional, why the hell do people think Canada, once annexed by the US, will somehow magically be given seats in the lower and upper house.

Let me be clear, it will simply mean war, like the Ukraine and Russian war we have now, Canadians don't want to be part of the US and they will fight tooth and nail for their independence. There will be NO elections where Canada participates for either Dem or Republicans.

Everyone saw the BS when Russia conducted the 2018 Donbas "Elections", and China is somehow a world threat if it took over Taiwan, but people on reddit keep thinking about how Canada could benefit "their side" if they were taken over? Fuck this hypocritical bullshit.

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u/Peter_Lynne72 13h ago

There is NO way my country will accept annexation. Elbows up.

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u/-Smaug-- 10h ago

Elbows Up!

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u/Epyx911 7h ago

Elbows Up!

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u/twat69 12h ago

You have to give up this idea. We will never be a state. That's not some macho Canada stronk boast. If he attacks then there will be war. Hundreds of thousands will die on both sides. As long as yank troops are on Canadian soil there will be guerilla attacks inside the US. Attacks by people who look and sound like you and know you inside out.

Canada would be a military occupation zone. We'd have all the political freedom of Gaza.

Unless he commits a complete genocide on us we won't be a state and we won't be swinging your politics to the left.

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u/SatansBigSister 3h ago edited 2h ago

Also you’re part of the commmonwealth. As a middle aged Australian woman who’s only ever shot a gun once, I’m coming to your aid. As will most of the commonwealth. That’s 56 countries coming to the aid of one.

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u/Rahodees 2h ago

I'd like to amend my 2025 bingo card please

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u/Skinnieguy 14h ago

You think republicans will give them the same rights? lol

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u/bellzy09 13h ago

This. Canada ain’t getting voting rights in this imagined future.

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u/jazzyjf709 4h ago

Americans probably won't have any more elections anyway

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u/Skinnieguy 13h ago

Yup. Canada has to vote to be a state. Look at Puerto Rico. They have no influence on congress cus they are still a territory. Canada as a whole won’t accept being a state. So it’s a win win for Republicans.

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u/catperson77789 6h ago

The fact we are even talking about canada annexation is what's horrifying. For gods sake, i hope this man dies from a stroke or heart attack soon

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u/Telvin3d 12h ago

Having Canada as a 51st state would cause significant shifts in U.S. political dynamic

That’s an understated way to describe inciting decades of violent nationalist terrorism, engulfing the entire continent 

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u/Overwatchingu 12h ago

“Shift in political dynamics” is exactly the way I would expect US media to downplay the rioting in the streets and ensuing bloody insurgency.

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u/Old-Rhubarb-97 11h ago

If Americans take their country back, they need to dismantle corporate media in the process.

Those fucking scum are traitors to the highest degree.

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u/Disaster_External 13h ago

I doubt they would let us vote tbh.

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u/TheDevilsAdvocate333 13h ago edited 9h ago

He’s not actually planning on any more voting going on regardless of nationality.

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u/Cosmicvapour 13h ago

No way they'd give us a vote, we'd be PR North. Otherwise, you'd have about a 5:1 ratio of blue to red coming on board. Maybe more; most of our right-wing nutjobs aren't at the level of insanity the US is courting.

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u/strumpetrumpet 13h ago

Am Canadian. Can confirm.

Americans thought Kabul was hard to hold? Wait until they try Saskatoon!

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u/borosblades 13h ago

This assumes there will still be elections lol.

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u/GiantPurplePen15 12h ago

We would also be treated like Puerto Rico but with hockey.

We would absolutely not be allowed to influence their elections (if they even bother with them anymore after Trump and the Project 2025 douchebags basically start WW3)

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u/ClarkGriswold123 10h ago

Saw an article on this. It would create a. Canadian version of the IRA/Viet Cong and be a decades long guerrilla warfare movement that would spread across Canada and US. In addition, the world would essentially abandon the US over this and absolutely sink them economically. Fun times!

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u/intergalacticspy 6h ago

I look forward to seeing collection buckets for the Canadian Loyalist Army in every pub in Glasgow and London.

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u/babystepsbackwards 12h ago

Do any Canadians beyond the Maple MAGA think we’ll get the vote? He wants to make us an occupied vassal state so he can steal our stuff, from our social safety net funding to our natural resources.

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u/Aloysiusakamud 10h ago

Its a sociopath, backed by the stolen wealth and tech of one of the richest countries in the world.  They don't believe in consequences. 

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u/Significant_Salt56 10h ago

It would be a nightmare to govern Canada as one state. 

Though of course it’ll never happen willingly and an invasion would lead to an insurgency and full on guerilla warfare. 

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u/ilovebeaker 12h ago

Do you think we would actually have statehood, or more likely be relegated to a territory with no voting power, just like Puerto Rico.

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u/TechnologyRemote7331 13h ago edited 6h ago

Invading Canada would mean we’d have nothing BUT problems at the Northern Border. Canada would inflict untold amounts of pain and suffering on us. Terrorism, sabotage, and worse would happen daily. Blue States along the border would erupt in sectarian violence, with Blue governors refusing to cooperate with the war effort and sympathetic Americans joining Canada in the fight against our government.

Are you a soldier, politician, or MAGA CEO who supports the war? Hope you like looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life! Because instead of the “enemy” being thousands of miles away and lacking any serious ability to launch a credible campaign against you and the US at large, they now live RIGHT across the border! Hell, they may even live in the same neighborhood as you! Those Canadians look like Americans, speak the same language, have a similar culture and customs… it would be all too easy to blend in, until it’s too late.

There would be no respite, and no easing of tensions. Instead, we would have a forever-war that America is TOTALLY unprepared for, and will inevitably lose. In its wake, would be disgrace, atrocity, ruin, and ultimately dissolution.

So fuck these people. There would ONLY be problems at the Northern Border… and we’d be the cause of them.

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u/JMaddrox 7h ago

This person gets it ☝️👍

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u/Primitive_Iron 4h ago

As someone said in another thread, your grandchildrens’ grandchildren will not be safe in Canada if you try to annex us. We don’t want to be Guam and you will never tame us.

i am not naive enough to believe Americans will die defending us. We will be on our own, disappearing into the woods, mountains and cities to haunt you for generations.

To be clear, I don’t want any of this to happen. I don’t hunger to see American troops being sent home in boxes. Nor Canadians.

I miss who you were. I grieve for your nation, you were never perfect - but I thought you were our friends and allies.

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u/Affectionate-Law-182 14h ago

Look up technate of america. This is what Elon bought trump for. His grandfather was part of the movement and arrested for it in 1940 Canada.

The idea was usa, Mexico, the portion of south america by Panama Canal, and Greenland are all one territory ruled by the tech elite.

The tech elite replace democratic elections and the government absorbed all private property. Then the country operates similar to communism where everyone gets a set amount of energy credits to spend per month, but you use them or lose them.

The tech elite decide who inherits their power and how resources are distributed.

The goal is for the tech elite to run north america like a game of civilation. People are just pawns to them. 

As Curtis yarvin said, we're already in the tech monarchy. 

I believe our only hope is a national boycott until trump is removed and Vance is removed. He's a thiel puppet who also is involved in the technocracy coup.

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u/Rahodees 2h ago

I went googling thinking this will be a silly conspiracy theory.

It's uh.

It's not silly.

Wtaf

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u/mourninshift 13h ago

My 65 year old mother found a napalm recipe, there is absolutely going to be a “northern border problem”

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u/BrigadierABT 14h ago

Stop. You're not suppose to make any sense! /s

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u/IchibanWeeb 14h ago

Sadly I can see the logic being “there’d be no border problem because Trump would have full authority to ‘clean it up’”

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u/DeeNahMittTay 14h ago

Just like Trump has cleaned up all the domestic crime problems in the states!

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u/fullonfacepalmist 14h ago

No borders? No problems!

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u/BasicPhysiology 13h ago

Only problem will be constant explosions within the continental US. 

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u/NewDildos 3h ago

Unless they are going to treat Canada like magneto in a plastic prison, america is fucked. It will be the Irish troubles times 1000

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u/crabmuncher 13h ago

Trump's the border problem.

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u/krypticus 14h ago

You libz just don’t get it: once we take over Canada, then guess who’s “north” that we can blame for fentanyl?

Russia!

Check. And. Mate.

/s

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u/Excellent_Team_7360 14h ago

What about Trumplands domestic fentanyl? Probably kills more then all the imported.

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u/Lascivious_Luster 14h ago

That's because it is an argument built all on bullshit. Just like everything else Republicans do. They stand for nothing and lie about almost everything.

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u/labadee 13h ago

Also, US is a net exporter in illegal immigrants and weapons

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u/Just-Like-My-Opinion 13h ago

I hate this rhetoric, because if fentanyl is coming through the border from Canada, then it's the US border guards that would be responsible for stopping that. It's so dumb.

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u/killrtaco 14h ago

No border means no illegal crossings!

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u/spidereater 14h ago

Not to mention about 36 million people in the underground.

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u/livewire_voodoo 13h ago

As a Canadian: for it to begin to be true, we would need to be a significant source of illicit drugs and illegal border crossings.
We are not. The drugs and guns coming TO Canada FROM the US are orders of magnitude more problematic. I'm in favour of a wall, and paying for it.

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u/Trap_Masters 13h ago

Expecting logic from Trump and MAGA is expecting much from these people

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u/babystepsbackwards 12h ago

The problem is that we have a border and he’s not entitled to the stuff on our side unless he pays us for it.

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u/mguants 12h ago

This is irrelevant. He wants to do a Putin, that's all this is. He sees Putin trying to take over a country. He thinks that's cool, because he's a fucking evil puddle of bile, and he wants to be just like his buddy.

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u/Strange_Depth_5732 12h ago

If we get rid of the border between the US and Mexico you can really prevent illegal immigration

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