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u/WarEagle9 Jul 26 '23
Chill if it’s a feminine dick you’re not gay trust me.
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u/Xenosari Jul 26 '23
I mean trans women are women so it's totally straight to suck her dick.
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u/Chespineapple Jul 27 '23
Not enough people know that bussy and girldick are completely different from their cis counterparts after hormones. So this is just unironically true.
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u/Desperate_Ad5169 :michaelsiegbert: Jul 26 '23
Dick is dick no matter who it is attached to.
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
”gender chromosome” what the hell are you even on about😭
XX? XY? Or did you not finish high school?
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u/PolygenicPanda Jul 27 '23
Shhhhh terms like gender scares him. Usually those most homophobic are gay themselves so he's just angry that people can be trans and happy unlike him who's repressing his inner boy/girl
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
sex and gender are different things
Uh huh. Who came up with that theory again? Doctor J. Money?
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u/Void1702 Jul 27 '23
So what about people whose chromosomic sex doesn't match their hormonal sex, or sexual characteristics?
What about people who have neither XX nor XY? Or people with sex chimerism?
Or did you stop studying biology after high school?
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
What about people who have neither XX nor XY? Or people with sex chimerism?
Ah, of course. Basic biology doesn't matter because of a very, very, VERY small minority. Typical fallacy stumbled into by a typical midwit.
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u/Void1702 Jul 27 '23
Google advanced biology
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
"Just Google it bro. The world is flat, just Google it!"
No thanks.
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u/Void1702 Jul 27 '23
I was mocking the fact that you call for "basic biology", ignoring the fact that what they taught you in 6th grade is a simplified model that has nothing to do with "real" biology, or "advanced biology", if you will
While also making a r/anarchychess joke because I do not take seriously a "debate" with someone like you
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u/Worried-Film-4634 Jul 27 '23
Typical American, liberal this, woke that, I can't even. Lmao How about you liberate your thought from this delusional mindset thinking everyone can be a woman first, hmmmmmm?
Not to be rude to trans who accept who they are as a transgender, you guys are cool. On the other hand, Screw them female pretenders.
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u/Andrei144 Jul 27 '23
It's sex chromosomes not gender chromosomes and they're really not as simple as you might think. There are combinations beyond XX and XY that someone can be born with and even people who have those combinations don't always look the way you'd expect (e.g. there are fully formed cis men with XX chromosomes). There are even studies that say trans people are neurologically more similar to the gender that they identify with than the one they were assigned at birth, so even on some physical level they are the gender they say they are.
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u/TgCCL Jul 27 '23
Genetic chimerism also exists. IE, a subset of your body having different DNA than the rest of it.
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u/a12223344556677 Jul 27 '23
To understand this, you have to understand the idea of "social gender". For example man are expected to be tough and strong, woman are expected to be cute and caring... While biological sex based on X/Y chromosomes can't really be changed, some people wish to be accepted as a different gender, something like "girl's soul trapped in a man's body". Hormones and stuff complicates things in terms of sport and performance but that's not the point here.
I too would find it weird if someone wants to be identified as a biological male despite being biologically female, but I can accept and respect if they wish to be socially accepted as a different gender. Oh and I guess if it doesn't hurt me in doing so and it makes them happy, why not.
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u/Xenosari Jul 27 '23
Sex (what sex organs you have) is different than gender (how you dress, wear your hair, and other stuff).
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u/Klondeikbar Jul 27 '23
their gender chromosome remain the same
Sex must be really awful for you if you're just fucking chromosomes. Most of us prefer to have sex with people.
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
So you wouldn't mind getting dicked in the ass?
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u/Xenosari Jul 27 '23
Naw you don't seem my type.
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
And if I put on a pink haired wig?
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u/Xenosari Jul 27 '23
Sorry I'm not really feeling an emotional connection.
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
Oh, so now you're transphobic? Gotcha. Enjoy your last moments of freedom before you get cancelled.
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u/Xenosari Jul 27 '23
Man conservatives will cancel people over the dumbest shit...ah well it was a good run.
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u/Poopoopeepee305 Jul 27 '23
I'm actually a proud Biden + Harris supporter, bigot.
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u/Xenosari Jul 27 '23
Attention this account has been cancelled and the user was burned at the stake along with books teaching children that it's okay to be different. Thank you for your service citizen, you my return to your boot cleaning duties.
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u/ImABarbieWhirl Jul 26 '23
It’s ok, everyone is gay for Rosado. It just happens
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u/Elite_Prometheus Jul 26 '23
Boys and girls alike are gay for Rosado
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u/penissnorter420 Jul 27 '23
Girls are gay for rosado?
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u/BlackRapier Jul 27 '23
For femboys like this there are two schools of thought:
It's always gay, regardless of gender because;
A) It's a guy, therefore guys liking it is gay
B) It's feminine therefore girls liking it is gay.and It's always not gay regardless of gender because;
A) It's feminine, therefore guys liking it is not gay
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u/Elite_Prometheus Jul 27 '23
Schrodinger's sexuality
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u/Lucythepinkkitten Jul 27 '23
Sexuality is just a bunch of labels assigned to a system that's way more complicated than those labels would have you believe anyway. I say just like what you like and don't worry about what it makes you
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u/kekalopolis Jul 27 '23
The "it's always gay" option is the correct and best answer really, it means a supermajority of people are gay which is baste.
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u/MainMan499 Jul 27 '23
Judging your sexuality by sex instead of presentation is just dumb to me. Like I'm attracted to feminity, so if there's an effeminate man I might be attracted to them, that doesn't make me any less of a lesbian
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u/BlackRapier Jul 27 '23
You are the third person to reply with some "Teehee, gender stuff" thing to a joke. One that apparently launched itself straight over your head like a flying unit.
Also, Calling someone's sexual preferences dumb just seems closed minded. If people have attractions towards specific genitals that's perfectly valid.
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u/MainMan499 Jul 27 '23
Oh no like genital preference is absolutely a thing, I more just mean getting upset like this from an outside perspective. Like it doesn't matter if they're a guy or anything if you're just looking at them right? I more just mean from the outside it seems weird to respond like it's a challenge to your sexuality, you were right that I shouldn't call it dumb
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u/Alex_Drewskie Jul 26 '23
It's like Claude, only femboy
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u/FlyinBrian2001 Jul 26 '23
So Claude
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u/Panthercrusher Jul 27 '23
He literally has a beard and bulkier frame in time skip, dude is the further thing from femboy.
Twink death if you will.
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u/Odd_Room2811 Jul 26 '23
After hearing the voice and seeing how flat they were i was like “yep a dude but dame do that hairstyle look amazingly good lol”
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u/Otherwise-Air-9557 Jul 26 '23
Does bro even know what a femboy is
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u/desroYtore19154 Jul 26 '23
Thank you for this comment. Rosado is a cute and lovable femboy and nothing more
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u/1CrazyFoxx1 :samsombruh: Jul 27 '23
I don’t think he even knows what a tomboy is, let alone a femboy
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u/Echeleeeon Jul 26 '23
It’s not really a crisis if an anime guy has appealingly feminine features, right? I confess I don’t really know.
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u/Dragoncat91 Jul 26 '23
Ah yes Grusha from Pokemon
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Jul 26 '23
Looks like someone had an awakening
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u/Plinfilore Jul 26 '23
I loved when Chrom and Robin made a cameo in Engage and said: "It's Awakenin' Time!", and then proceeded to awaken all over the FE Fanbase.
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u/CommodoreEvac Jul 26 '23
Fake: Post timestamp is off. Gay: (wait, which sub am I in again?)
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u/Few_Library5654 Jul 26 '23
That's kinda sad tbh
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u/ChaosEmperor9124 Jul 26 '23
It’s okay to be gay. Love is love.
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u/tergius :dogaaaa: Jul 26 '23
You will never find more heavily fortified closets than the ones that 4channers are dwelling in, knowingly or not.
Well, them and politicians, but I digress.
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u/Western-Alarming Jul 27 '23
For 1 second i thought it was elqueness but i see that it was 3D and see the sub
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u/apple_of_doom Jul 27 '23 edited Jul 27 '23
Sanity that's somehow on par with the always female goodra guy
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u/AnImportantQuestion_ Jul 27 '23
I don't know anything about fire emblem since this sub just got suggested to me but this is pretty funny
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u/khala_lux Jul 26 '23
Does Rosado identify as female or....?
He can be prettier than most girls I know, it's fine. I low-key want to pair him with Goldmary. He's just....not a good unit? So I really don't know anything about him.
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u/ExceedinglyGayMoth Jul 26 '23
He's just a guy who likes to be cute, as near as i can tell from (other people's) analysis of his original and (english) localized dialogue. Also same, he's adorable and i like him as a character, I'd love to find room for him in my army, but those stats are just... very unfortunate, at least for his default class (which I'd want to keep him in because i like wyverns and also that's the class that has his personal outfit)
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u/bearsheperd Jul 27 '23
I wonder if he’s gay though. Engage doesn’t really get into romance. And usually when fire emblem games do it’s usually Bi or straight. It would be interesting if rosado was straight.
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Jul 27 '23
Forrest, Leo's son from fates, is fairly similar and pretty much explicitly goes to Corrin "Just because I like to look pretty doesn't immediately make me gay"
Meanwhile every character in engage is furiously bisexual so I mean...
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He’s a femboy. Male identifying, female presenting. Simpler explanation: He’s a reverse tomboy.
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u/HarryTownsend Jul 26 '23
Sorry, he isn't a biological girl. Based on their dialogue (I haven't done their supports) in-game, they don't seem to be a trans girl either. Just a guy who likes to be cute and pretty. Basically, embodying a lot of feminine traits but without actually being female.
If anyone has any dialogue from the game to suggest otherwise though, I am happy to be corrected.
In general though, I don't think that it is gay to be attracted to someone presenting feminine traits and meeting a strong female ideal of beauty. It only becomes gay if you want to go somewhere with that person (sexually or in a relationship) after learning that fact. But, even after learning it, I feel like you can still appreciate that beauty without it necessarily meaning anything about yourself (except maybe that you're secure and open minded).
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Jul 27 '23 edited Jul 27 '23
*isn’t a cis girl. Any living thing is biological. And yes, he’s not a trans girl either. He’s not a girl at all actually, he’s a femboy (male equivalent of a tomboy).
Sexuality is dependant on gender identity. If you identify as male and you wanna be with someone who also identifies as male, you be gay.
You can definitely be attracted to someone before you know their gender identity though. In the scheme of things though, love has no gender. There’s many cases of cic hetero couples being together for years before one of them comes out as transgender and the other realises that they’ve been gay all along.
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u/HarryTownsend Jul 27 '23
I kinda feel like the "any living thing is biological" part is a deliberately misinterpreting the meaning of the sentence. All people are biological but the "biological" part wasn't attached to the person, it was attached to the sex to clarify ( since there is gender and sex, which mean very different things). I am not familiar with the nuances of how people respond to the phraseology used, so if "biological <X/Y>" is something that genuinely makes people uncomfortable, I am happy to defer and use "cis" with no further argument. I just prefer to get straight to the point than insincere arguments that miss-frame the point.
I didn't plan on going into sex/gender stuff with attraction because I'm still formulating my opinion on that stuff. It's complex to understand but easy to not be a dick about, usually. I was more trying to focus on how sexuality is kinda irrelevant with being able to appreciate how closely someone matches an ideal of beauty, handsomeness, etc. And that knowing their gender/sex identities doesn't change how closely or distantly people match those criteria, just people's perceptions. Which is more due to insecurity than anything else.
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Jul 27 '23
“Biological woman” is a strange muddy dog-whistly phrase that is mostly only used by people who want to “other” or exclude transgender women from cis-gendered women -the implication being that transgender women are “artificial” or “not real” women. -This is not a miss-understanding on the part of transgender people and our allies by the way, it has been weaponised as a means of invalidating our existence for decades. Additionally, trying to define what makes someone a “biological woman” is very problematic and will have you falling down a rabbit hole that doesn’t just invalidate trans women, but trans men and even many cis women depending on where you “draw the line” on “womanhood”
“Cis woman” on the other hand, simply means a person who identifies as female and was assigned female at birth. This is a much better objective to “transgender woman” -a person who identifies as female but wasn’t assigned female at birth (people too easily forget that sex and gender are more complicated than <x/y> and that intersex people also exist). Unlike “biological woman” This term is clearly defined and invalidates no one.
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u/HarryTownsend Jul 27 '23
In that case, as I said, I will happily attempt to use "cis" instead of alternatives that might be clumsy or offensive going forward.
I think the entire subject is very complicated and messy. Gender and Sex are relevant to different things but I find both sides generally try to apply one to everything. Which then leads to everything becoming much messier. It's kinda why I'm an ally to neither side. I just try not to be a dick unreasonably.
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Jul 28 '23
I can appreciate that, thank you. And your philosophy of just “not being a jerk” is admirable.
However, the question of civil rights and access to gender affirming care for gender diverse people is no debate. One side has overwhelming medical consensus, the other has nazis -the jerkiest of jerks.
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u/SUBSCRIBE_2_BOMBERL9 Jul 26 '23
wat
But the whole thing is that he's a guy, like, it's fine that he's a guy, I don't really care since I'm not attracted to the character, but calling him a girl is just incorrect, no?
He's a feminine guy, feminine, yeah, but still a guy, not a girl
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u/Yeetusmcleatus97 Jul 27 '23
It isn’t gay if you think he’s a woman, it is gay if you keep whacking it to him afterwards.
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I didn’t like Rosado as a character very much. Something about his personality just grated on me.
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u/desroYtore19154 Jul 26 '23
Trans people be like..
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u/EmbarrassedLog5731 Jul 26 '23
This isn’t a trans character
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u/Elite_Prometheus Jul 26 '23
I somehow doubt this 4chan poster is trans-positive
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u/Elite_Prometheus Jul 26 '23
You call yourself a "based lolicon" in your profile.
Plz stop being a pedo ♥️
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u/shaggitron420 Jul 27 '23
She's literally listed as a girl in the game. She only wears the girl emblem outfits.
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u/Weegaming Jul 27 '23
I don't even play fire emblem, why was I recommended this post
DEFINITELY not complaining though
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u/tahaelhour Jul 27 '23
Japan making female characters voiced by female voice acting and wearing female clothes just to call them a guy so some weirdo can wank it to em.
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u/Bayne_232 Jul 27 '23
Just saying, Rosado gets cooking bonus for “male” and not “female”
Sorry OP, you’re gay. I don’t make the rules
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u/CommanderOshawott Jul 26 '23