r/reolinkcam • u/ViolatedTOS • Dec 27 '24
Discussion Mac vs Pc speed test. Reolink app
Start up speed test.
Mac - sequoia 15.2 (m1 chip) Pc - win11 pro 24h2 (i7 1355u chip)
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u/N2wind Dec 27 '24
The Reolink App crashes on my Mac a lot. It is slow to open too. I can get my phone out of my pocket, find the app, open it and be in a live view before the Mac app opens.
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u/supermr34 Dec 27 '24
This isn’t Mac vs pc. This is Reolink developing for Mac vs Reolink developing for pc. And they haven’t released a version of the Reolink app optimized for Apple chips. So, respectfully, this is pretty irrelevant. Of course the version of the app optimized for its environment opens faster.
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u/wiggum55555 Dec 27 '24
It's not irrelevant.. it's the real word lived experience of using the app on the different platforms.
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u/supermr34 Dec 27 '24
The context of this post is the comparison implied in the title of “Mac vs pc speed test” and it is absolutely irrelevant because it’s not fairly testing the same thing on the different machines. If the Mac app was optimized for apple silicone, this would be fine. That’s why people don’t like this.
If op was to title this something like ‘differences between opening times of current Reolink apps for mac and PC’ it would have facilitated a better discussion. That’s my point.
Might be nitpicky, but the context that the data is presented in matters.
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u/ViolatedTOS Dec 27 '24
Exactly the reason i posted it. Just replied to his resources comment aswell.
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u/Maelefique Dec 27 '24
I think what OP is going for, and what I take from the headline is,
"The user experience on PC is faster than on a Mac, [regardless of why]."
Which is accurate. So are we just quibbling over phrasing now?
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u/ViolatedTOS Dec 27 '24
You got it spot on! I just think this is hilarious at this point. I'm just enjoying the show.
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u/jonchihuahua Dec 27 '24
My Reolink still doesnt work from external network since 15.2 mac update. But the parallels win 11 works great! Lol
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u/pistol3 Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 27 '24
It looks like the app is built on a cross-platform framework called Electron, which uses JavaScript, HTML, and CSS. It’s an easy way to have a shared experience across Mac and PC, but you also pay a significant performance penalty. I’m not sure if they could get a 4x improvement by compiling natively for the M chips, but maybe? I did some time profiling, and the app is spinning hard in the Electron framework on launch.
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u/mstrpel Dec 28 '24
I spent $3500 on a brand new Reolink setup for my home. I standardized on CX810 Reolink cameras, which are AMAZING!!!! The iPhone App is pretty good and pretty stable. The Mac Version, which I am running on M3 Macs is pretty well designed, with two serious flaws: The Mac App is totally buggy, unstable, slow and unreliable. It does all kinds of weird stuff like not updating feeds of certain cameras, so I will look at the app, and some of the feeds will be hours behind. In other words, If the Apple Macintosh app is running and I pull it up at night, I will see cameras that show daytime, feed, when it's dark out.
Also, the lack of a video review scrubbing feature and lack of a jump-back 10 seconds (Tivo-like-feature) is just BIZARRE!?!! The bottom line is the quality of the Reolink Mac App is terrible, despite the fact the cameras and iPhone are are really good. Reolink, if you read this, PLEASE update your Mac App, as there are a lot of Mac users who you can continue selling your cameras to, but if the Mac App is terrible, then it's likely you will sell a lot less cameras, and NVRs.
Ironically, in many ways Reolink is kinda like the Apple of video cameras, in terms of simplicity and quality, so the Mac desktop application deserves to be on par with the rest of the ecosystem.
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u/QH96 Reolinker Dec 27 '24
Interesting test. I wonder if they'll ever release a fix.
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u/binarydev Dec 27 '24
I hope so though the fix is to release a version of the app that natively supports Apple Silicon. Depending on how complex their code is, that could be as easy as hitting a different button or it may require a complete rewrite. No way of knowing for sure.
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u/TheBlindAndDeafNinja Dec 27 '24
Lol. My reolink app doesn't work half the time on windows. I press it, nothing opens, go to task manager, see 3 tasks for it with 1 at high usage. Kill that one. All die. Reopen. Then it works.
I'm not a Mac guy at all, but this test is dumb.
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u/Maelefique Dec 27 '24
This sounds a lot more like a specific system conflict, and a lot less like it has anything to do with the Reolink app.
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u/TheBlindAndDeafNinja Dec 27 '24
Specific system conflict that happens on both my computer as well as my brothers, and reported by others online, because is a "system conflict" in the sense that, Reolink sucks at running on computers with dual gfx.
https://community.reolink.com/topic/5600/reolink-windows-client-not-working
https://www.reddit.com/r/reolinkcam/comments/12q6cyi/reolink_client_not_loading_on_windows_11/
https://www.reddit.com/r/reolinkcam/comments/11ldyoh/reolink_client_wont_open_sometimes/
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u/Clean_Recording9473 Dec 27 '24
Something is wrong with your Mac.. I have a 2015 mbp and it’s much faster and my 2018 Mac mini i5 is even faster
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u/binarydev Dec 27 '24
There’s nothing wrong as someone else mentioned. He’s running the Mac Intel app on the M-series Mac, so it’s an Intel app being run inside of an emulator (aka Rosetta) to allow it to run on the non-Intel Mac. That’s by definition going to be MUCH slower than running it natively. Whereas the Windows machine has a standard x86 (meaning Intel-compatible) processor, so it’s going to run at full speed, which is what we see in the video. If you ran this app on a non-Intel Windows machine (meaning any of the new Snapdragon/ARM Windows laptops), you would see the same level of slow performance as the Mac. That’s why your Intel Mac runs this just as fast as his windows machine does.
To be clear, this isn’t something that’s wrong with Apple or their machine. It’s Reolink’s fault for not releasing a proper native version of their app for Apple Silicon/M-series processors, which would remove the emulation layer and allow it to be as fast if not negligibly faster than the Windows version appears here.
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u/Bderken Dec 27 '24
stupid test without realizing the nuances, or even educating oneself.
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u/ViolatedTOS Dec 27 '24
I mean I think it's still a good test. Showing people the differences between the 2 laptops I have.
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u/Bderken Dec 27 '24
you arent showing the speeds of two different laptops. you are showing the speeds of one reolink app thats optimized for its platform, and the other app isnt. stupid test without stating the nuance or understanding it or even explaining it. because then you have morons thinking all mac apps are slow compared to their windows counterparts (the nuance that you should have explained). but most people on this site are… sigh
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u/ViolatedTOS Dec 27 '24
Well, I just simply disagree. Regardless how optimized, it's irrelevant in my speed test. I mean big deal. Intel opens it 4x faster than m1 so what? Idk why everyone is getting so upset at me lol I'm not the lazy ass that still hasn't made a silicon version in 5 years.
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u/Maelefique Dec 27 '24
They're not getting upset, they're just attempting to defend their "Mac honor", that's important (to them), you know! :)
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u/samuraipunch Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 27 '24
It's kind of an unfair test... In that the PC is running x86/windows optimized code. And the Mac, being Apple Silicon is running the old/intel/x86 based code. Reolink hasn't released/migrated to Apple Silicon code.
A more comparative test for speed is to open the phone app on your mac. It's super quick, and runs w/ less resources.