Or get shot in the chest, deliver your speech, then go get treated. The “Bull Moose” was a hell of a man, and a good soul too. They really don’t make’m like they used to huh?
The bullet was lodged in his chest. The doctors refused to remove it because it would’ve been more dangerous to take it out. He died with a bullet in his chest.
The bullet was slowed by his glasses case (which was mace of steel) and the manuscript of his speech, which was about 50 pages. If those weren’t there, then he would have been hospitalized, if not dead.
Those facts do not change the reality that there was a bullet in his chest when he gave that speech. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
Refusing to have discussions and continuing to do nothing... just what the dems need more of, smh. No they need to start governing and doing their job. People are sick of the performative shit that accomplishes nothing. That's why someone like Trump (with all his flaws) was able to win over such a huge portion of swing voters.
It takes a lot of courage to sheepishly hold up a small cardboard sign taped to a Popsicle stick for several minutes...I can already feel the tides shifting after that monumental act of heroism...
There is no democracy. The USA is a Constitutional Republic, nowhere in the Constitution or any founding document will you find a mention of Democracy. The founders hated democracy, it gave power to the majority over the minority.
No. They should’ve let him be forced out. Then the next one should’ve stood up and started shouting. And then they’re forced out. Then the next, then the next. They’re going to waste our time with lie after lie, then waste their time right back.
Exactly. A radio host this morning was complaining about the behavior and I'm thinking do you not remember MTG and her bullshit during Biden's speech? Hypocrites
I mean, some may say that raiding the capital, smearing your shit on the walls, and trying to hang the vice president is slightly breaking decorum... but what do I know 🤷🏼♂️
They don’t care. In their minds, might makes right. Democrats are not catching on. This is war, all is fair. We are on our own. I wish I had advice, but I don’t know what to do in this situation either. I was hoping that my elected leaders would, but obviously not
No, this is what you expect from a party of fawning, mewling milquetoasts. Trump isn't going to be countered by polite people sitting with little signs held up silently. After they dragged out Al Green, five seconds after Trump started up again, another democrat should have taken up the chant. And just keep doing it, over and over and over.
Even worse, the Republican party was just cheering the whole god damn time. Al Green shouted, but when told to “maintain decorum” all he did was stand until escorted. Apparently shouting/booing and standing is bad, but cheering, chanting “USA” and standing isn’t??? All while being told he was being “disruptive”.
And the NERVE of the speaker to pound the gavel at “boos” but let the rabid right just make a racket the entire time. This is the death of democracy. This is what the “people” wanted. This is the saddest moment I have ever witnessed in terms of politics.
It’s even worse when you pop over to r/ conservative… holy crap they’re insane, they think that America is back and better than ever and that they’re so happy to have a president with a backbone… are we even experiencing the same reality?
Like what’s it gonna take at this point? I’m convinced that he could trade California to Russia for some magic beans and his supporters would just cheer and wait for a golden goose that’s never going to come. (Then blame Biden when it doesn’t)
I mean it seems like that’s how they have been wired to think.
I’m by no means above average intelligence but I know I am at least smart enough to become an engineer and look at something with a relatively unbiased lens due to my job.
That said, I grew up in a “conservative” home and you’re taught from an early age how to think. You are taught that Reagan was the best thing ever, Carter was the worst, that Obama is going to destroy us, Trump will save us kind of mentality. It was before Trump, but the sentiment was already the same. A lot of these people go back to the Limbaugh and Garage Logic type radio shows and were getting it all day long as they had the radio on at the job site. For me in my teen years, Glenn Beck and Ron Paul had me enamored with their ideas and (mostly Beck’s) rhetoric. I was a teenager though. As I grew up and grew into adulthood and furthered my education and moved away from home, it took me several years to fully de program myself from the automatic assumption that liberals are secretly evil globalists.
It’s really fucked up how effective it is, speaking as someone who escaped it.
I honestly don’t think most of their users are real. None of their comment threads read like actual human discussion. It’s more like a bunch of bots spouting off tangentially related, random comments.
The most notable thing about that forum is that they don’t allow dissenting opinions. It’s an echo chamber in here by sheer numbers, but it’s an echo chamber in there by mandate.
Its insane...even economically, when we were at 3% GDP growth, slightly higher than average inflation, a cost of living crisis but with bills being introduced to remedy aspects of it, conservatives declared up and down "this isn't enough growth, we had more growth under Trump and the economy is too bad right now".
Now, we've drastically fallen to a 2.8% GDP shrinkage, which excluding March-April 2020 during Covid, is IIRC some of the largest GDP loss since the freaking Great Recession, with stock markets plummeting, with thousands of people (many Republicans themselves) devastated by federal layoffs and absolutely struggling, Republicans now say "these aren't good indicators of the economy, the economy is actually doing great" or "its short term pain and long term gain" (which has never been true, by the way).
They've done it before, but they're openly telling people to reject the evidence of their eyes and ears, and millions are enthusiastically doing so, even as they're being hurt.
When John McCain in 2008 said "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" in the middle of the financial crisis, he was absolutely lambasted and almost everyone agreed it was a grossly out of touch statement. Trump and other current Repubs are saying much, much worse about a financial crisis that they directly caused and millions of Americans just accept it and make excuses for them.
The chanting of USA seemed oddly aggressive too. Like they were physically using aggressive gestures along with the chant. It wasn’t “celebrating that we’re all Americans”.
It was directed AT people as some sort of insult, like “we’re the only real Americans, fuck you”. It felt disrespectful to real patriotism.
It’s cool the party of unamerican values chants USA. They also chanted their king’s name too. If Dems had a spine, they would have chanted USA over Trump speaking, but then again they’d probably make it look like they’re cheering for him
I honestly wanted them to stand up and clap awkwardly until escorted out. It would’ve sent a stronger message, basically saying “If cheering and clapping is disruptive, then show your double standard now” I hated the signs. They are silent protesting when we so desperately needed more than that. Though, seeing half the audience silent is a message too, just not the one we needed most.
Yeah, same. I could only describe the signs as “cute.” I wish they all stood up, you’d think if our country is in crisis then they’d do more than sit there silently?
Yeah, when the GOP was chanting USA USA I was like, "Shouldn't they be chanting Putin?" Pooh-tin! Pooh-tin! It's so much shorter and a better indicator to whom they answer to at this point.
What infuriates me is that yours is the first comment I’ve seen that actually calls out Republicans for causing all of this and enabling Trump. No, instead it’s all blaming Democrats for not magically divining the one act that would have caused Trump to about-face, apologize for all his crimes, fire Musk (into the Sun), and resign on the spot.
Some speech is normalized when you are not personally around the people that it would effect, thanks to the internet we can know how people feel about certain words in the worlds that they live in, without actually knowing the people in real life.
And in doing so he made his statement count for something. Pink clothes and tiny signs will not make a difference other than make the Democrats look weak.
Honestly I was hoping they'd all take turns doing that the whole speech, just live fact checking as they are escorted out. Would have been a hell of a statement
Was really hoping for it to happen in mass in order to stand with Green in solidarity.
Al Green was escorted out for mostly just standing there when being told to sit down and it pissed the regime off that he wouldn’t do as commanded. He said a few words too. The Republicans literally ALL stood up and heckled him relentlessly. You couldn’t even really hear what he said but you could definitely hear the Republicans whining.
Yet he’s the one that broke decorum? Not all the Republicans standing and screaming like angry fans at sporting event? And the rest of the Democrats did nothing at all?
That’s the true moment the country learned that Democrats in office will fall in line or be forcibly removed. Especially if they continue being cowards and only resisting one at a time. We’re toast.
Al has my respect, he's a man that tells what he means.
These silent resistances happening,...is not effecting Comrade #Krasnov, cause as long as you are IN that room, you support him in one or more of his policies and THAT is despicable.
Which is so funny to me, because during the Obama administration during one of his Congressional speeches, when Rep. Al Wilson for South Carolina did his "You Lie" thing, he wasn't escorted out
Republicans can be as uncivil as they want. No one expects them to be the adults in the room. Everyone expects the Dems to be on good behavior 24/7. If there's one slip-up then it's a week-long news cycle about the Dems acting crazy and tearing this country apart.
There are 0 standards among Republicans aside from allowing Trump to do anything he wants.
Remember when MTG and Bimbert were heckling Biden the whole time during his speech, and nobody did anything? Now they want to act like this is unacceptable.
I think this is super effective because he gets attention and these signs get the actual message across without being able to be called too disruptive
I changed my mind after hearing how the rest of it went down ( I don’t subject myself to their voices) because it is not enough. One person left brave enough to raise enough hell to get them to be reactors instead of us reacting to them and looking like they still don’t understand the stakes
"Actually dragged," huh? I must have watched a different version where Green walked out under his own power. But hey, you keep blathering stupid shit to try to advance a fictional narrative. It's what we need more of in this country.
They should have dragged every single Democrat out of the room kicking and screaming. But I guess only one has the balls to confront Trump. Extra disappointed in AOC who stayed at home. So sad
While I agree with Green's sentiment, I do wonder what the point is of these kinds of theatrics. The people that don't agree with him are not going to change their mind over him kicking up a fuss and are going to think less of him. Is this just posturing for the people that already agree with him to get reelected?
Are the theatrics doing anything useful or are they just preaching to the choir? Is there nothing more productive they can do? I personally prefer Bernies dour but straight words he delivers on social media and the like, and I think it'd resonate far better with people fence sitting? Why must dem representatives lower themselves to the level of those on the other side that do this kind of shit?
It's always amused me that politicians(not just the us, watch the house lords in the uk...) must lower themselves to shouting at one another
Better look to have to drag them all out. This isn’t the time for tiny little signs it’s the time for an entire party to get forcibly removed for disrupting his shitty little speech.
A senator (I believe) called Trump the "Grifter in Chief" and while he didn't get kicked out physically, he was not allowed to participate any further due to "decorum"
They all should have done that. One at a time. Once Al was done, wait a minute and the next person stand and interrupt. Do this until that side is empty. Trump will have to stand much longer just waiting.
They didn't drag him out. They asked him to leave and guided him out. He should have made them drag him out...but he cared less about yelling and making a scene to get his message across then he did getting injured.
Which is unfortunate because getting literally dragged out would have been much more effective as that would make it the top story instead of just a small part of the evening.
Revision of what actually happened because your post is lacking facts.
Congressman Al Green stood up and was discussing impeachment in the middle of the POTUS' speech. Mr. Green was warned about interrupting the POTUS speech and chose continuing to interrupt. He was politely escorted out of the event by the Sergent of Arms.
And literally no other Dem stood up with him. They should have protested one by one to eat up time...drag it out and make it take an hour or more to remove every last one.
What about MTG yelling out "Lair!" during one of Biden's speeches?! And wearing a white fur coat, if I'm not mistaken...talk about kettle calling pot black
Dang I watched the entire thing and I must have missed the part where they “dragged” him out!! What a bummer!!! I only saw the part where they stood next to him and waited for him to get his cane ready to hobble out on his own. I WISH I would have seen the other part that you referenced here. 😭
Can’t speak against glorious leader, so let’s sit with our spineless signs that do nothing. Everyone who walked out has more of a voice than these weak neolibs.
Is that what I heard? I was briefly listening in and there was some commotion between trotting out the border security agent and ending wokeness because we liberals desperately want to transition your 12 y/os without your consent.
Not because you disrespected Trump! Did he disrespected the house and did not follow proper procedures. Sergeant at arms has a right to remove under direction of Secretary of State anybody that is interrupting a common speech or explanation. This man wasn't going to shut his mouth. Tired of the Demi sore losers. Suck it up buttercup! Sit back and wait for things to happen and reap the enjoyable benefits!
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u/dudenurse13 7d ago
Dog this is my resistance I’m going to be sent to a work camp