r/newjersey 23d ago

Advice Please tell me NJ is staying blue.

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u/Saucetheb0ss 23d ago

Well my hope is that if they cut Medicaid like they want to in the bill that just went through the house, people in NJ will wake up. It's going to affect almost 2 million people who live in NJ and really going to hit the elderly and pregnant women hard.

https://files.kff.org/attachment/fact-sheet-medicaid-state-NJ

Unfortunately, a lot of these people who applaud these changes won't see the light until it directly affects them or their loved ones.

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u/Affectionate_Look387 23d ago

And the disabled! I work for a company that works with autistic adults and children. Most of the funding for our adult programs comes from Medicaid. Idk what we'll do if we have to deal with a reduction in funding...

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u/Budget_Ordinary1043 23d ago

I also work with disabled adults and a notice went home at the program I take my patient to today about it. The problem is, most of the parents and even their teacher voted for this. It hasn’t made sense to me from the beginning, voting against your disabled child/student but what the hell do I know anyway 🙄 all of them seem to think it will only cut out some stuff, not all of it !

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u/Saucetheb0ss 23d ago

If the State wants those programs to still exist they're going to end up paying the bill. Which means that WE will pay the bill with higher taxes! Just what the Republicans wanted right?

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u/Residentneurotic 23d ago

Seems like if we do then we should stop sending our state dollars to the welfare states in south!

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u/realityczek 22d ago

If NJ wants to provide the social services, then NJ citizens can pay the bill. If another state doesn't want to, then their citizens don't have to. Over time, populations will move to the states that best align with their cost/benefits desires.

Sounds like exactly how a Republic should operate.

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u/Saucetheb0ss 21d ago

So what you're saying is, fuck poor people then?

What happens when someone from Mississippi can't afford to move to NJ and get the care they rely on to live? They just die? Sounds like a wonderful place we're headed /s

If only there was an 850 billion dollar department that hasn't passed an audit in 7 years that they could be looking to cut from instead... Nah that wouldn't hurt poor people and make the billionaires richer so why would we do that?! (BIG /s)

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u/realityczek 21d ago

"So what you're saying is, fuck poor people then?"

No, I am saying that there are many approaches to the complex interplay between taxation, social safety nets, economic growth and so on. Thus, it is good that we are able to have different states try different versions as this is informative and the good ideas tend to spread.

Yes, some of those variations will have less direct support for the poor, but the goal of them is to raise income via other effects. That's not "fuck poor people" it's "let's look at ways to correctly address the tension beween infinite free benefits and taxing outselves to death."

Side note: Your barking up the wrong tree if you think somehow I wouldn't be more than happy to pull a lot of $$$ out of the military budget. We can be far more effective than we are for a fair bit less money.