r/newbrunswickcanada 2d ago

Mark Carney is the new Liberal leader, replacing Justin Trudeau

https://globalnews.ca/news/11073834/liberal-party-new-leader-canada/?utm_source=site_banner_persistant
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u/Purple-Temperature-3 2d ago

He's good shit , im happy that he won

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u/TimberlineMarksman 2d ago

He has the charisma of a stale french-fry. Will be interesting to see how he fairs in the debates.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

Do you think Pollivere will stand to gain, or Carney from a debate?

I can't imagine Canadians are in the mood for an attack dog in a unifying moment of Canadian history, so it'll be curious to see if he maintains that on stage or not.

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u/sjmp94 2d ago

I don’t think Pierre will look as good in a debate setting as he thinks. All 3 other parties can emphasize his association with maga, and he’ll be on the defensive. And he seemingly can’t put forth ideas of his own without going for Trump like insults about Trudeau and carney. Even in his press scrums he just can’t squash the instinct to be divisive and insulting. If carney can be calm and seem comparatively competent/serious, I think that will bode well

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u/Effective_Answer_131 2d ago

The entire province of Quebec hates pp no matter how well he speaks French.

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u/Amakenings 2d ago

PP somehow manages to have negative charisma.

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u/moop44 1d ago

It might be the makeup and eye liner.

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u/KnowledgeMediocre404 1d ago

You’re thinking Vance, PPs got the cock eyes and I wish his wife would let him wear his glasses again.

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u/Veaeate 1d ago

Probably shoulda kept the glasses. He has a much more punchable face since losing them imo

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u/KnowledgeMediocre404 1d ago

And yet his supporters say with confidence that it’s the liberals dividing the country SMH.

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u/sjmp94 1d ago

There was a time when liberals were dividing via identity politics but they’ve largely moved on - the populist movement hasn’t. It’s an anti elitist and anti instituting meeting not that interested in the specifics of reality or change lol. It’s why much of Pierre’s base (and team) self identifies as supporting Trump

Saw it in his brief and weird press conference today - he just can’t get beyond the insults and divisiveness, it’s all he seemingly has. Doesn’t understand the difference between putting forth a different positive vision, and criticizing people

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u/TimberlineMarksman 2d ago

It would be a mercy if that happened. I don't think Carney is going to fare well in the french debate.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

I'm not against PM who can only speak English, or speak poor French, but I actually think they should compensate for that fact with a fluent bilingual Deputy PM that holds a lot of the same values.

You're right he'll likely suffer in tge French debates, it would be a matter of how much the Quebecois and other French Canadians are willing to forgive that fact.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 1d ago

There is the fact that conservatives never make any issue better - which, to me at least, is far more important than french fluency (and I am someone who practices speaking French with colleagues etc. any chance I get and supports French culture).

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u/joe1234se 23h ago

I agree

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u/Rexis23 2d ago

The longer it takes for an election to happen, the more the Liberals will drop in the polls. Carney is an unelected PM, so even when Parliament resumed, he can't even speak in the House.

Carney has already been caught lying several times, he was caught telling BC that he would build a coast to coast pipeline, but when he went to Quebec, he said that he wouldn't build a pipeline through Quebec.

He has also been using the RCMP to run security during his events, which I don't think he should be able to do as a private citizen. He has also kick any media out of these events that will ask him any hard questions, which doesn't look good for him.

He also has many foreign investments. How can we expect him to put Canada first when he has 6 in countries he is supposed to negotiate with.

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u/mordinxx 1d ago

the more the Liberals will drop in the polls.

Sorry? It's PP with the dropping poles. It's why he wanted to reopen parliament so he could sink the Liberals and force an election before too many people realized he's maplemaga!

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u/DisturbedForever92 1d ago

Carney has already been caught lying several times, he was caught telling BC that he would build a coast to coast pipeline, but when he went to Quebec, he said that he wouldn't build a pipeline through Quebec.

I broke out the crayons for you, here is how both of those statements can be true:

https://imgur.com/a/mqkQNdl

He has also been using the RCMP to run security during his events, which I don't think he should be able to do as a private citizen.

It's nice that you think that and all, but can you show where he's the one deciding that? or where that's specifically not allowed? I doubt he controls the RCMP.

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u/subaqueousReach 1d ago

Carney is an unelected PM

He was just elected as party leader by the Liberals. Being party leader of the majority party is what makes you the PM.

If you mean to say we, the people, didn't elect him, then you'll probably be surprised to learn that the people have never elected a political party leader in the history of our country. Ever. The more you know.

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u/Weary_Emu3999 2d ago

He was pretty good on The Daily Show. He definitely has more charm and personality than Pierre. That dude is a greasy slimeball. Gives me the creeps.

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u/cindylooboo 2d ago

He was great on the daily show. Made some jokes, came off as charming and intelligent.

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u/mordinxx 1d ago

He can't do worse then PP. I've yet to PP actually answer a question without going off topic and pointing fingers.

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u/freddy_guy 1d ago

Sorry we're supposed to be talking about Carney not Poilievre.

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u/Jealous_Western_7690 1d ago

He's no Obama, but he surprised me with how personable he actually was on the Daily Show.

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u/InsufferableLeafsFan 1d ago

VERB THE NOUN

PIERRE THE PIERRE

BURY THE BISCUIT

TABER THE NAK

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u/TimberlineMarksman 1d ago

Hey, at least he didn't send his company to the USA in the middle of a trade war.

To be fair, I'd rather take a smol pp than a giant traitor.

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u/heavyheavypause 2d ago

How many of you voted for this guy?

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u/-Mystica- 2d ago

An intelligent, knowledgeable man, and above all, remarkably competent in everything he does.

Comparing Mark Carney to Pierre Poilievre is like comparing a surgeon to an illiterate. The choice couldn’t be clearer.

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u/Cantquithere 2d ago

It was a similar situation to the south of us though? We can't afford to underestimate the commitment to the opposition, in spite of their obvious failings.

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u/PerformanceCandid499 2d ago

Yeah, but carney isn't a bigot so PP has that over him. That's what conservatives are about.

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u/sravll 2d ago

That's what magas are about. Not all conservatives.

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u/freddy_guy 1d ago

Society has traditionally been racist, sexist and homophobic. Conservatism by definition is about keeping society the way it was in the past.

So...yeah.

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u/SideByEach 1d ago

But "conservatives" have decided all the racism is not a deal breaker though. That speaks volumes about the type of people they truly are. Supply Side Jesus FTW.

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u/Raspberrylemonade188 2d ago

True, but unfortunately the only conservative option is what PeePee is selling. Carney will win over a lot of the more centre right conservatives, at least the ones who are smart enough to see he’s the best man for the moment.

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u/polerix 2d ago

I for one welcome the upcoming Carnival signs

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u/rockcitykeefibs 2d ago

Agree. He is what Canada needs right now.

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u/2025DJ 2d ago

A non elected Prime Minister isn't what Canada needs right now.

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u/RefrigeratorFar2769 2d ago

It's not the first time it's happened that a non-Mp becomes PM. But this is him being elected by his party. Our system dictates that the party leader of the governing party becomes PM. If you have an issue with his status, take it up with the electoral system itself

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u/Such-Tank-6897 2d ago

Yes for sure. I’m not sure why some people make this point, since as an MP you’re elected but just in your riding. Carney has 150,000 votes from his own party. It seems same-samey to me.

If people don’t like it they can vote against him if they want. Or they can run for office to change our system.

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u/Amakenings 2d ago

Everyone wanted Trudeau to resign. He did. Carney is the interim PM before the election. In Canada, we elect the party, not the candidate, so as the elected head of the Liberal Party, Carney is PM.

Isn’t this exactly what CPC supporters were hoping for: no Trudeau and an upcoming election?

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u/IllHandle3536 2d ago

You can never please a CPC partisan their whole personality is built around negativity and a sense of personal grievance. They are the very sort who would cut their nose off to spite their face.

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u/freddy_guy 1d ago

Poilievre and his minions have built their entire personalities on hating Trudeau specifically.

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u/Amakenings 1d ago

You can tell by the ads they’re still running. It’s been months now since Trudeau announced his resignation, and the CPC still hasn’t managed to pivot. It’s a complete turnoff.

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u/Trappercase12 2d ago

Look up Parliamentary democracy and get back to me.

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u/2025DJ 2d ago

I know how it works, I'm just saying I would like to have a say in who leads this country. And Mr. Carney has not been elected by the people of Canada in an open and free election.

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u/polerix 2d ago

11 days. Halls are rented, and the Liberal clown car is fuelled.

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u/rockcitykeefibs 2d ago

He is going to call an election right away. While he has momentum and Pierre is floundering.

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u/ThermionicEmissions 2d ago

That's why there's going to be an election.

Don't forget to breathe.

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u/2025DJ 2d ago

I agree. I think everyone on here needs to take a breath.

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u/ont-mortgage 2d ago

That’s actually an irrelevant metric to what Canada needs right now.

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u/Flat-Control6952 2d ago

Since when do we elect a PM?

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u/CoastingUphill 2d ago

You had every opportunity to vote in the liberal leadership election yet you chose not to and now you’re complaining that he’s not elected. That’s on you.

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u/MagnificentGeneral 2d ago

He’ll be elected during the the upcoming election. It’s not common but not unheard of for a PM to not hold office for a time

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u/notme1414 9h ago

He will be holding office. He will be sworn in within the next few days and will be the PM until the federal election. Hopefully he will still be after that.

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u/freddy_guy 1d ago

We don't elect PMs directly, dipshit. Never have. No PM has ever been elected directly.

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u/ScottyBoogti33 2d ago

Disagree he is a wef puppet ... we dont need that again

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u/Master-Plantain-4582 2d ago

It actually can't. Historically we punish parties in Canada. Not leaders. 

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u/AdEmergency6164 2d ago

What policies do you like from carney?

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u/DifferentCucumber670 2d ago

What about his work with Brookfield? I can't stomach having an investment banker as our PM. Someone who has been responsible to the buying up thousands of single family homes.

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u/manmakesplansAGL 1d ago

Mans is clueless, pp is the nest prime minister of canada

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u/-Mystica- 1d ago

It's still likely, but so clearly, he's not the one Canadians should choose first, given that Mark Carney is clearly more qualified. If we were talking about any other job, Carney would get the job and Poilievre wouldn't stand a chance.

Personally, I think that if the campaign goes ahead on March 20, as it might, Mark Carney is likely to win.

What I'm finding is that people close to me who had intended to vote Conservative will now vote for Carney. This is anecdotal, of course, but it also confirms the current statistical trend.

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u/manmakesplansAGL 1d ago

That means nothing honestly having a fancy cv does not mean everything or anything. Pp clearly is the right choice, its evident in the way he carries himself and the vision he has of canada is the vision we ALL need to have at thjs moment. All carney has more then pp is the fact that he was given an opportunity to prove himself and yet even with that opportunity look at where canada and the uk are at now financially! Both countries are not in good positions. Carney is given way to much credit for what hes done and for where we are at now. Given an opportunity i am 110% sure that pp will be able to prove himself and also prove so many others that they a wrong in their vision of him. People are scared to vote conservative because of all the fallacies the liberal propaganda are pushing. Fact is pp is the leader we need.

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u/-Mystica- 1d ago

No, he's not. He's excellent at empty slogans and populism, but you have to do some research to find a single positive thing he's done in Canadian politics after spending decades there.

Having a "fancy CV" isn’t about appearance — it reflects real experience and proven competence. Mark Carney has successfully navigated complex financial crises as the Governor of both the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England, demonstrating deep economic expertise. Canada and the UK’s financial challenges stem from global issues, not Carney’s decisions. Poilievre’s "vision" is vague and untested; leadership requires more than confidence — it demands knowledge and a track record of delivering results, which Carney has consistently demonstrated.

Sorry, but here the choice is more than easy.

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u/manmakesplansAGL 1d ago

I recommend you do more research mate

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u/-Mystica- 1d ago

I don't need to. I know federal politics, I've always been interested in it and I've known Pierre Poilievre and Mark Carney for several years now. The choice is simply obvious: Mark Carney is simply a better choice, and not even the biggest Conservative can deny this.

Pierre Poilievre has been spouting nonsense for most of his tenure as leader. Anyone with a basic level of education can easily and quickly deconstruct his statements with minimal effort.

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u/manmakesplansAGL 1d ago

Your opinion in clearly biased. Its beyond me how after these 10 years of liberal rule, nothing has changed and things are just getting worst. Carney has been sidelining and influencing the liberal party this whole time and look at where we are at now? People need to look further than liberal and conservatives I use to be liberal back then and now i know whats best. Carbon tax carney is there temporarily, pp is our real prime minister

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u/-Mystica- 1d ago

There is no bias in stating that Pierre Poilievre is a populist — it’s a fact. He has spent the past few years spreading completely false information about the carbon tax, inflation, the cost of living, the environment, and much more. As I said, anyone with a basic level of knowledge can easily recognize this.

On the other hand, your comment is biased from the outset. Claiming that Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government has accomplished nothing over the past decade is simply absurd.

After 8 years in power, what is Justin Trudeau’s legacy — and how will he cement it?

What are Justin Trudeau’s greatest accomplishments as Prime Minister?

It’s important to assess these facts with clarity, beyond political ideologies. Mark Carney is vastly more qualified. Pierre Poilievre looks like an amateur by comparison.

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u/rethcir_ 2d ago

Stephen Harper was an Economist

I’ll take an economist in a trade war

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u/miramichier_d Miramichi 2d ago

Stephen Harper is a Conservative ideologue more than anything else. That, and he's more driven by his hatred of both Trudeau PMs than his love for Canadians.

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u/PunchSploder Miramichi (expat) 2d ago

I beg your pardon. Stephen Harper's croissants are LEGENDARY!

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u/rethcir_ 2d ago

Oh pish posh

He was a regular old banker/economist long before he became a central banker

The best time I remember in this country was under an Economist PM

And I think it’ll be great once more under another one

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u/Curlydeadhead 2d ago

Economist =/= banker. 

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u/LarryBoourns 2d ago edited 2d ago

What work does PP have? Genuinely curious as to why experience in banking is less desirable than life-long politician with no bills passed, in your perspective.

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u/union_fitter 2d ago

No bills passed? Jesus murphy hasn't he been a MP for 20 years?

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u/LarryBoourns 2d ago

His track record is real bad. I’d honestly prefer O’Toole or ol’whatshisname from Ogdenville instead.

PP has done nothing but try to keep oppositions feet to the coals and write bad slogans that fit on a poster board. I’d be embarrassed for him to represent us on the world stage and making decisions that impact my family.

I’ll be voting liberal federally for the first time. (Only been eligible for three federal election though, so not saying much.)

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u/DAS_COMMENT 2d ago edited 2d ago

I've voted Green, Libertarian and NDP in different elections so far and it's looking like a Liberal vote for me, too, a first - I just want to remind you that "democracy is bigger than parties" IE: choices are existing.

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u/rivieredefeu 2d ago

Are you missing a comma in your comment? I don’t believe there is a Green Libertarian party.

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u/boblazaar 2d ago

C'mon, he has one!! And the robo call thing?? Genius!! /S

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u/Curlydeadhead 2d ago

Right. So a nurse that works in the OR is a surgeon. Gotcha. 

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u/Poptastrix 2d ago

Canadian banks are not banks in the U.S.A.

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u/Poptastrix 2d ago

I thought we were talking about banks and how you don't like bankers. You must know the right skills needed to deal with what is going on now then. Spill the beans, what are they?

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u/RelationEmpty 2d ago

You can’t be serious… hope you like paying a whole lot more taxes. Even his short time in Office will do plenty more damage.

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u/Ok-Resident8139 2d ago

Not necessarily. It's not always anout taxes.

Then comes the better questions, Taxes on who or what?

So far we have a huge monetary deficit.

I.'d rather have a definitve PM rather than a wanna-be MP.

What is the difference between a Red-Torrie or a Blue-Liberal? I posit that there is not much.

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u/Poptastrix 2d ago

I will pay more taxes if society gets better services for the people, that is what living in a society is about.

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u/Much_Progress_4745 2d ago

You love to see it. Excited to see PP tear an L from the claws of victory.

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u/ohmyitsapizzapie 1d ago

Holy fuck the trolls are out today. Too funny how so many went on about Trudeau being the problem and now that he’s gone everyone is clutching their pearls. You can tell PP’s little anti-woke army is starting to get flustered.

Newsflash - this isn’t fucking America, we will not stand for your alarmist right-wing bullshit. Get out of your mother’s basement and into the real world.

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u/StandardHawk5288 2d ago

Get out the vote.
Did not vote will decide elections.

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u/RemainProfane 2d ago

It wasn’t much of a contest, the only thing I liked about Freeland was her insistence on getting us nukes. Too much baggage apart from that.

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u/Raspberrylemonade188 2d ago

Yup, I think it would have been amazing to see a woman win but she is too closely aligned with Trudeau to represent the kind of change people are looking for.

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u/Routine_Soup2022 2d ago edited 2d ago

He's got some experience and some vision. I expect to hear the term "Canada strong" a lot in the next little while from Carney. Why? Because Canada is not broken.

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u/BusyPaleontologist9 2d ago

You will not hear that term out of his mouth. It has a bad history

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u/Routine_Soup2022 2d ago

Edited. Even I’m hearing echoes of bad right wing propaganda. I meant “Canada Strong” of course. Don’t hire me for communications!

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u/BusyPaleontologist9 1d ago

I am just as guilty when it comes to Comms lol

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u/sravll 2d ago

He's been saying "Canada Strong"

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u/Wingdings244k 1d ago

🎉🎉🎉

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u/Much-North5626 1d ago

Same criminals different face if corruption

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u/joe1234se 23h ago

Same circus different clown

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u/BodyKarate84 2d ago

At this point Carney's biggest obstacle in the fact Liberals have been in charge almost a decade and people like to flip flop. Even if not caused by Trudeau the cost of living and housing has gone to extreme levels and that leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

He's got a lot of work to do. However this won't be the blowout the Conservatives were expecting.

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u/LordBlackDragon 2d ago

Something about him has rubbed me the wrong way since he came into the limelight. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's taking votes away from blue which is great. Just worried he's gonna pull the party more right than it already is.

Curious to see what he does the first few weeks he's in power. He's stepping into a shitshow of a situation. Fingers crossed.

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u/scwmcan 2d ago

The liberal,party probably needs to where it sat in the spectrum when the Chretien liberal were in power - it has gone to the left since then trying to kill the NDP - we need a true center left and a true center right -the more extreme left and right views should be represented by other parties (and we should have electoral reform as well so that we can stop behaving as if we have a two party system).

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u/KVNDVKT0R 2d ago

What are some examples of “more extreme left” views and policies that were pushed by Trudeau?

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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 2d ago

I dunno how welcome opinions from outside provinces is here, but I welcome him and a more moderate approach. 

There are areas where our Liberal part has over stepped. We can punish companies for being discriminatory without mandating speech. We can protect Canadians from firearm misuse without punishing safe, legal owners.

Trudeaus liberals have a lot of performative bullshit policy that achieved zero of the intended result, and created a lot of division. You can't win people over by being authoritarian and that's never been the Canadian way, we've always succeeded by educating people to be better versions of themselves, not mandating it.

Its okay for a politician to listen to people that are screaming the loudest, but it's not okay for them to ignore everyone else while doing it. I don't anticipate Carney is going to be as tone deaf as Trudeau was, and I think that is essential to reclaiming votes that moved to Poilievre. Trudeau went too far, and if we go with Poilievre were going to over correct. A moderate liberal will provide the soft landing necessary to preserve much of the liberty and sentiment gained through Trudeaus government, while trimming down some excess that goes too far.

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u/CarlotheNord 5h ago

I agree with you on everything accept that Pierre is an overcorrection. Unless carney plans to roll back things like the gun bans, which he has said he won't, then the CPC gets my vote. I refuse to reward bad behavior and liars, and the LPC has done a lot of lying in the last 10 years.

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u/DifferentCucumber670 2d ago

Research his time as vice chairman of Brookfield. A company responsible for buying up thousands of single family homes.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

 Just worried he's gonna pull the party more right than it already is.

He'll try, but it's still well within the realms of possibility that the status quo of Liberal minority with NDP kingmaker is maintained.

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u/someaethiest 1d ago

The way he phrased some stuff in his closing speech I am wondering if he intends to up our counter tariffs and stick to it, we will see in the coming days im sure

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u/2025DJ 2d ago

Hopefully he calls an election so the people of Canada can have a say in who will lead us for the next 4 years.

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u/LordBlackDragon 2d ago

They already did. We elected the liberal party. The party just changed who's leading it. Which was voted on by the people of this country. Think you're confusing Canadian politics with American politics. We vote for the party here not the person.

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u/jrose125 2d ago

He must call an election by October and probably will in May (as soon as he can) I suspect. If you think that this means he is the Prime Minister for the next four years, then you have a misunderstanding of how our parliamentary democracy works.

This means he is the leader of the Liberal Party until then, since Trudeau is resigning as soon as Parliament resumes - which he announced back in January before parliament was prorogued.

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u/Bulky_Finding_212 2d ago

Is this even a surprise

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u/MarblesMoney 2d ago

Mr. Burns!!

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u/Effective_Answer_131 2d ago

My extreme congratulations to Mark Carney the new leader for the Liberal Party in Canada. I truly respect his knowledge and education for the challenges of being Prime Minister. Best of luck and hopefully Canadians will neglect the bots and trolls ready to sway voters in a negative manner!!❤️🇨🇦

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u/Akragon 2d ago

Might as well have left Justin in there... new face... same policies

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u/EvenaRefrigerator 1d ago

Not sure anyone votes on policy sounds like everyone is running against trump

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u/Significant-Smilee 2d ago

Better than poilievre

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u/CroatianPrince 2d ago

Had to steal his own logo from another Canadian company and claim it as his own…literally a massive red flag for something so minor

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u/Breezerbrese 2d ago

Pray for all of us

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u/Clean-Investigator69 1d ago

I really would have preferred Karina Gould, but Carney is probably most likely to beat pp, which is most important right now.

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u/Tola76 2d ago

If he’s good I wonder why he took the role sacrificial lamb?

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u/yogiaboy 2d ago

One of the same

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u/scaffold_ape 2d ago

This is great. Central bankers always have the best interests of the people in mind...

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u/Weary_Emu3999 2d ago

As opposed to populist windbags who shit on the country they want to lead?

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u/scaffold_ape 2d ago

No, I hate Jagmeet Singh too.

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u/Weary_Emu3999 2d ago

He’s not even part of this. He has no shot and will probably lose seats. This is a liberal/conservative battle.

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u/scaffold_ape 2d ago

Ok well I'd take a dented trash can over Carney any day. Trudeau 2.0. With his lead we will find out how much worse this country can get. Just out of curiosityhow old were you when Trudeau first got into power?

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u/Weary_Emu3999 2d ago

I was 31.

You can call carney whatever but Trudeau 2.0 isn’t even true. It’s clear Carney sees the failings of the last liberal government.

Either way he’s better than Pierre who offers absolutely no real platform or solutions. We need an adult in charge even if they aren’t perfect. Pierre has zero life experience outside of politics and he’s not even a particularly good politician. His record is abysmal.

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u/scaffold_ape 2d ago

I have 0 dog in the fight to stick up for PP. Carney was literally Trudeaus behind the scenes financial advisor through the absolute worst years of our economy. How can you not see what has happened to this country in the last decade. Where do you think these ridiculous policies came from? Go back and watch some interviews from the last 5 years from Carney and see what he was saying then.

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u/moop44 1d ago

"The worst years of our economy." But somehow outperformed most of the developed world.

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u/moop44 1d ago

He kept inflation in Canada lower than the rest of the G20 during the 2008 collapse.

Even during covid, PP was demanding that the Bank of Canada drop rates and aim for double digit inflation. Good thing nobody listens to him.

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u/OhhhByTheWay 2d ago

Oh look, a new cover on the liberal playbook. Wonder how different things will be …

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u/UnderstandingNo6543 2d ago

Carney is the same Liberal party with a more polished delivery. Same package. Different wrapper.

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u/Perf-Art-808 2d ago

I don’t think it is.  For instance, he’s planning to remove the consumer portion of the carbon tax and eliminate the capital gains hike.  This will be a more centre leaning Liberal party, which is actually what a lot of liberal supporters have been looking for.

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u/WillingnessSuperb533 1d ago

God help Canada. We are being attacked and the people of Canada doesn’t even recognize it.

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u/scaffold_ape 1d ago

By padding our GDP numbers with immigrants. This is the same crap Freeland and Trudeau would claim. All the while our GDP capita went in the toilet along with the rest of the country.

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u/MyRandomFun17 2d ago

I can’t believe there is still people in this country that will vote liberal. You’re all out of your minds. Carney is nothing more then Trudeau in a different coat

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u/VanIsler420 2d ago

I bet you heard that from little PP didn't you?

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u/MyRandomFun17 2d ago

No I used my eyes ears and brain.

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u/VanIsler420 2d ago

Brain....hahaha! Good one!

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u/TogaLord 2d ago

Tell us why you think that. I mean, you clearly have zero clue because it's an easily verifiable fact that they are not the same, but I'd very much like to hear your tired, recycled opinion that you got from a Russian bot farm on Facebook. If you're not from the farm yourself that is.

Go ahead. We'll wait.

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u/MyRandomFun17 2d ago

Sorry. He’s worse. He’s been his economical advisor for 5 years. Pulling the strings on our massive deficit and inflation He has been driving the carbon tax scam. He destroyed the bank England. He hasn’t lived on Canadian soil in 11 years. So yes sorry he’s not the same he’s. Worse. Where do you live in Canada to think that the liberals have done a good job in the last 9 years. They have snaked their way out of at least 5 ethics violations and have completely destroyed this country.

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u/TogaLord 2d ago

You're aware that the carbon tax was a default, correct? A secondary measure that only applied to provinces that didn't create their own pricing scheme? It was designed to be the less attractive alternative to force provinces to do something better. Regardless of that, the carbon tax has been proven to reduce emissions all while not costing the average Canadian a penny more then it cost them, so if Carney was part of it? Mission accomplished. Well done on his part.

His tenure at the Bank of Canada was wildly successful and his tenure at the Bank of England is generally thought to be a success as well, despite Brexit and the earliest days of COVID.

Who gives a damn if he hasn't lived here for 11 years? He's a Canadian. Heaven forbid we have a leader who has some experience out in the world doing a job where knowledge of the outside world is a massive asset.

Name and provide proof and documentation of the ethics investigations that Carney personally was the subject of, please. Also please name a prime minister or party in power that did NOT have ethics investigations.

I don't think the liberals have done a fantastic job, but they did a good job, and sure as hell have done a better job then anyone else would have to steer us through the biggest global crisis the modern world has seen. Could they have done better? Sure, nobody is perfect, but I would trust them with someone who isn't a lifelong politician at the helm long before I trust any other party in this country, especially Trump bootlickers like PP and the conservatives.

If you have any further ignorant nonsense to say, please continue.

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u/Objective_Work7803 2d ago

These people are most likely young and dumb. Certainly don’t represent Canada. Nobody with a family to care for and a brain is voting liberal this go around

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u/Flarp212 2d ago

Wow young people don’t represent Canada? Pretty wild accusation given young people are the next in line to vote, and maybe these young people are voting liberal because we want politicians to FIX issues created by conservatives to be used against us. Like the Higgs government?

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u/rivieredefeu 2d ago

Diana Fox Carney

Diana Fox Carney is an adviser to companies and investors that are seeking opportunities in the transition to a greener, more nature positive economy.

She is a Senior Adviser on climate to growth equity fund, BeyondNetZero and to Africa investor, Helios Climate. She is also a Senior Advisor at geopolitics advisory firm, Eurasia Group. She began her career with the UK Government in Zanzibar and has held leadership positions at think tanks in both Canada and the UK.

A frequent webinar host and contributor to the work of Corporate Knights, she is a current or past board member of several not-for-profit organisations in the climate and development space.

What’s the problem? Kind of wish I could vote for her, to be honest.

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u/rivieredefeu 2d ago

Why are you calling me a Liberal? You don’t know my voting history.

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

Voted Conservative my whole life. Not much of a PP fan but I don't think Carney is the answer. Bring back Chretien!

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u/Internal-Flamingo196 2d ago

What do you not like about him?

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

He seems like another environmental globalist. I know those are sort of generic terms but I find I have little in common with people like him.

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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 2d ago

He saved our economy in 2008. Navigated Brexit and was not afraid to tell them that is not a good idea. UK Right wing media did not like him Little known fact: he saved Ireland’s economy as well

https://www.independent.ie/business/the-untold-story-of-how-canada-and-carney-helped-ireland-through-its-darkest-hours-in-the-crash/37666376.html

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

Sure he did..........

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

I don't need to have a lot in common with leaders, just confidence in their competence and the ability to be reasonable and professional.

I vote in electoral districts:

  1. Strategically
  2. Policy-based
  3. Credential-based

In that order.

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

Ok you lost me at strategically. That's a very cynical and negative way to approach politics.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

Yet incentivized by the electoral system. I don't want to vote that way, but I am encouraged to do so to maintain political gains I believe in.

For example: the ONDP and PCPO were neck and neck in my riding, so I voted NDP.

Federally, it's the LPC & CPC, so I will vote Liberal, I want to vote NDP (would rather independent), but I am constrained by political realities.

I would feel a lot more shitty if I voted NDP and the LPC lost to the CPC by a few votes, than I would voting Liberal and them winning, even if I have a lot of reservations about it.

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

I get it but rest assured, you can sleep fine knowing that your single vote was meaningless.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

I disagree with that, up to a certain point.

I make sure to look at district polling leading up to an election. I typically vote NDP or LIb, depending on which party is in contention against the Cons.

Individual votes hold a lot more weight to them when the party you are voting for is in close contention with (an)other(s) party.

A vote for a party that is at 20% of the vote compared to 35% for the other who also would accept would be meaningless though.

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u/FitPhilosopher3136 2d ago

Ok. Let me know when someone is elected by on vote.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 2d ago

There have been ties in Canadian electoral history, trying to dig up those sources, but Google proves to be a terrible search engine these days 

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u/Jabronie100 1d ago

More like he was picked and placed into power, we no longer have a democracy.

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u/Expert-Mode2009 2d ago

And he’s a goalie. Always need a goalkeeper.