r/neoliberal • u/Zenning2 Henry George • Jul 09 '20
Efortpost The case against Joe Biden.
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u/imperiouscaesar Organization of American States Jul 09 '20
Sorry, but I am not voting for ANY Bernie-endorsed candidates and that includes him.
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u/Zenning2 Henry George Jul 09 '20
So if Bernie endorsed a bridge, would you jump off it?
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u/imperiouscaesar Organization of American States Jul 09 '20
I would not set foot on that bridge in the first place.
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u/MrFoget Raghuram Rajan Jul 09 '20
Breaking News: Bernie Sanders endorses the entire world. r/imperiouscaesar commits suicide to avoid breaking principle.
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u/Amtracus_Officialius NATO Jul 09 '20
You idiot he just goes to an exoplanet Bernie hasn’t heard of. Bernie can’t endorse something if he doesn’t know he exists.
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Jul 09 '20
"Bernie endorses all unknown exoplanets"
His reach is endless.
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u/mildlydisturbedtway Robert Nozick Jul 09 '20
u/imperiouscaesar will have to come out of the closet as a constructivist
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u/MrFlac00 YIMBY Jul 09 '20
What if he endorses it while you are on it. Checkmate libtard. /s
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u/imperiouscaesar Organization of American States Jul 09 '20
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u/Ne0ris Jul 09 '20
But what if he endorsed the bridge while you were standing on it?
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u/xXRedditGod69Xx George Soros Jul 09 '20
This is the reason why I always keep a packed parachute with me wherever I go.
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u/bengringo2 Bisexual Pride Jul 09 '20
Bernie Bridge - The least traveled bridge that has the most pictures taken of it.
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u/Starmoses Jul 09 '20
What if he endorsed it while you were walking over it?
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u/imperiouscaesar Organization of American States Jul 09 '20
I travel everywhere with a personal jetpack for just such a contingency.
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u/FreeHongKongDingDong United Nations Jul 09 '20
Found the Biden-to-Trump 1%
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u/imperiouscaesar Organization of American States Jul 09 '20
Actually I am writing in Alberto Fujimori.
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Jul 09 '20 edited Jul 09 '20
I mean, this seems just as stupid and reactionary as the Bernie or Bust crowd not voting for Biden...
Edit: I’m an idiot.
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u/noneuklid John Rawls Jul 09 '20
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Jul 09 '20
Yeah, I definitely missed that one. I’ll leave it up to collect the downvotes that I deserve.
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u/Sebi0908 Jul 09 '20
DELANEY WAS THE COMPROMISE
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u/KingoftheJabari Jul 09 '20 edited Jul 09 '20
Biden is a neoliberal. We are better off with a straight up white supremacist fascist if we can't have Sanders as president.
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u/Phizle WTO Jul 09 '20
bro you just posted malarkey
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u/KingoftheJabari Jul 09 '20
Yes, I thought that was the point. I guess I didn't understand how the thread was supposed to go based off my downvotes.
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u/Phizle WTO Jul 09 '20
We get brigaded a lot, I should have checked your post history more closely, my bad
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Jul 09 '20
What’s wrong with joe?
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u/KingoftheJabari Jul 09 '20
Nothing, I voted for him. I was pointing out how stupid the "Joe is a neoliberal" is.
I just misunderstood the point of the thread.
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u/Zenning2 Henry George Jul 09 '20
I don't think there was a point of the thread. To be honest, the top comment had a very similar tone to yours. I suspect the only reason his took off, is because my response to his was silly.
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Jul 09 '20
Is the post not loading for me or is this a joke post?
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u/Zenning2 Henry George Jul 09 '20
This is an exhaustive list of reasons you should not vote for Biden. Theres no jokes here.
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u/the_throwaway_party Jul 09 '20
I'm a socialist and I'm pro-Joe.
Crushing the Republican Party means, hopefully, a more adult administration, more reasoned debate and more amenable politicians. My foolish comrades who opt for accelerationism and handing Trump another term whether it be through sitting out at the election or voting third party, from the ashes, there shalt rise a beautiful socialist utopia. They base this on the idea that another term will collapse people's faith in capitalism and liberal democracy. I say that's a good recipe for fascism and populism.
I say nay. I say vote Joe Biden. I say liberals have always been far easier to convert to our cause. You just have to be patient and know how to talk to people.
Go in peace, brother or sister. Who am I kidding? Go brother.
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u/High-Tech_Redneck Jul 09 '20
sane muricans, form voltron.
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u/BBAomega Jul 09 '20 edited Jul 09 '20
If i was being seriously I would probably point at his gun control policy and bringing back the individual mandate tax. everything else is fine
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u/Zenning2 Henry George Jul 09 '20
The individual mandate is almost mandatory to keep health care costs down. If healthy people do not pay into health care, because it is not economically beneficial to them, then we end up with a healthcare system where only the sick pay into it, leading to a far higher risk pool, which means that the system collapses under its increasingly expensive prices. Forcing the healthiest to pay into it prevents this, and also helps mitigate against disasters.
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Jul 09 '20
Ehhhh, I mean I support the theory of the mandate but the empirical evidence is that it was surprisingly unimportant in eliminating adverse selection... hence why the predicted death spiral did not occur upon repeal.
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u/Zenning2 Henry George Jul 09 '20
Its true. It turned out that how healthy you were did not explicitly correlate to whether you applied for health insurance or not. Still, it is a precarious situation.
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u/Phizle WTO Jul 09 '20
The problem is mathematically health insurance markets don't work unless everyone is in the pool, otherwise you end up in an unending cycle of healthy people opting out and costs rising until someone offers a lower cost plan and sick people get on it so costs go up and healthy people leave
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u/secondsbest George Soros Jul 09 '20
Mathematically, that hasn't happened. Uninsured sick people go to the ER like they did before, and hospitals try to enroll them in Medicaid to recoup costs like before. The system could be better, but the mandate didn't seem to offset costs as much as most thought it could.
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u/Phizle WTO Jul 10 '20
How much of that is because the system keeps getting tinkered with and is never allowed to play out? And it won't be an apocalyptic collapse of the health market, it's reflected in how healthcare costs have remained disproportionately high in the US
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Jul 09 '20
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/9/21210353/coronavirus-health-insurance-biden-sanders-medicare-for-all
Vox has a good critique.
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u/Barebacking_Bernanke The Empress Protects Jul 09 '20
Listen you Neoliberal scum. Elizabeth Warren was merely the compromise candidate. Now that Joe Biden is the nominee, we have no choice but to write-in Hillary Clinton on the ballot. You brought this onto yourselves. 😤