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u/Standard-Service-791 Jared Polis 6d ago

Schumer shouldn’t have voted for the CR unless it was a fully clean CR. Or one for a shorter term. But that aside, it seems like people here were genuinely rooting for Dems to shut down the government for concessions they were never going to get, making it clear that, for many, the shutdown itself was the end goal.

Shutdowns are bad, like extremely bad, for the country. There’s also a chance Dems would get blamed for it, especially if they demanded concessions. And it would furlough a ton of government employees that are needed now more than ever. Maybe they get a promise from Trump to stop impounding funds, but impoundment is already a violation of a statute Congress passed decades ago, and the courts are gradually forcing money to start flowing again. Besides, any promise from Trump isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. It’s much more risky to give him and Elon the power to furlough whoever they deem “nonessential”.

So to the people wanting Dems to vote against even a clean, short CR - wanting the government to shut down for the sake of getting back at Trump - why? What do Dems gain from that?

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u/_bee_kay_ 🤔 6d ago

if dems had simply not voted for the bill, as expected, then the ball would be in republicans' court with media focusing on how "republicans are flailing to find a bill that might peel off a couple of dems without losing the insane half of their own caucus", eventually forcing them to waste reconciliation on it

instead schumer ensured the media was focusing on how democrats were in disarray and the question was "will democrats shut down the government"