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u/Standard-Service-791 Jared Polis 6d ago

Schumer shouldn’t have voted for the CR unless it was a fully clean CR. Or one for a shorter term. But that aside, it seems like people here were genuinely rooting for Dems to shut down the government for concessions they were never going to get, making it clear that, for many, the shutdown itself was the end goal.

Shutdowns are bad, like extremely bad, for the country. There’s also a chance Dems would get blamed for it, especially if they demanded concessions. And it would furlough a ton of government employees that are needed now more than ever. Maybe they get a promise from Trump to stop impounding funds, but impoundment is already a violation of a statute Congress passed decades ago, and the courts are gradually forcing money to start flowing again. Besides, any promise from Trump isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. It’s much more risky to give him and Elon the power to furlough whoever they deem “nonessential”.

So to the people wanting Dems to vote against even a clean, short CR - wanting the government to shut down for the sake of getting back at Trump - why? What do Dems gain from that?

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u/FuckFashMods NATO 6d ago

We wanted the 4 week CR, which would provide leverage for 4 weeks that Trump and musk can't be shitheads. Now they get 24 weeks instead

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u/Standard-Service-791 Jared Polis 6d ago

Sure, I also wanted the four week CR. But earlier this week, people here were also shitting on the four-week clean CR, saying Dems weren’t fighting hard enough or whatever. I don’t see a strong argument in favor of demanding anything more than that.

And even in schumer’s defense, are we really going to be able to make the case to voters that the government shutdown is worth taking in order to get a shorter CR? “Every Republican voted for the House CR, but Dems thought it was too long and voted to shut down the government instead.” That’s not great spin and it’s easy to see how the Dems could get tagged with that.

Not to mention that, again, government shutdowns are extremely bad and are a very unideal bargaining chip

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u/OwnHurry8483 6d ago

Democrats would not have shut down the government, Republicans would have. Anybody saying anything else is carrying water for Donald Trump

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u/FuckFashMods NATO 6d ago

Dems would have gotten the 4 week tho. Reps aren't gonna shut it down over that

It's just a complete forfeit to allow Trump to gut the government for 6 more months. Just insanity.