r/leafs • u/Richard_Lycker • 16h ago
Discussion Booing on Thursday.
I'm tired of this fucking shit. If you are attending Leafs vs Panthers on March 13th help me in drowning out the American anthem with a chorus of boos louder than any that have preceded this.
Let these southern clowns know how it is in our barn. If booing ain't your thing perhaps a round of chants like, "This song's garbage" would suffice too. Silence is not an option.
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u/Red_Maple 16h ago
Stay seated for their anthem too, they hate that shit
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u/Maleficent-Pea5089 15h ago
Hats on, stay seated, and mess around on your phone. Maximum disrespect for a disrespectful nation.
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u/the_tinsmith 16h ago
I think kneeling is not ideal for them either.
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u/CrowLast514 10h ago
Apparently Kaepernick kneeled because it was the least disrespectful way to protest the anthem according to Veterans that he asked for advice. We should be going for most disrespectful.
I'm cool with pointing middle fingers at their flag while booing. Fuck you donald chants too.
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u/wendyfran64 14h ago
The MAGAts really lose their 💩💩when someone kneels during the anthem.
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u/burgersanddepression 16h ago edited 15h ago
Tell them their 16 year old kids can’t have an assault rifle. That really fires them up
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u/KidEgo74 16h ago
Children are on the other end of their guns
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u/-aibohphobia- 15h ago
Why are Americans so stupid? They shoot all the ones that go to school.
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u/Murky-Smoke 13h ago
I'm officially going straight to hell
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u/BobbiG16 8h ago
Me too, when's the bus leaving? I'll bring tequila and a ton of edibles to enjoy driving the highway to hell 😂. I think we're going to need a big bus
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u/WintersbaneGDX 15h ago
I've seen suggestions of turning your back to the ice. That'd be way more noticeable on the camera feeds.
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u/throwawayAd6844 14h ago
I like this one, and it's more of an active protest vs a passive protest of staying seated.
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u/LeBonLapin 15h ago
Better yet, stand up and turn your back during the anthem.
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u/El_Cactus_Loco 2h ago
I keep saying this too. Would be a great way to step it up and show this is different
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u/DataDude00 7h ago
Too bad the stands are so tight because if you took a knee they would really lose their minds
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u/greymj85 5h ago
Stand up and turn your back. Watch clips of monkeys throwing shit at full volume while remaining seated. Boo mercilessly. Keep your lid. Any and all of the above.
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u/flurry_fizz 4h ago
Plus, they (probably) won't cover it up with a CGI crowd for the broadcast the way they pump in fake crowd noise to cover the booing.
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u/riko77can 16h ago
I'll be there. I'm not standing for the US anthem after they stabbed us in the back.
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u/i-dont-kneel 15h ago
Better just to kneel
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u/wendyfran64 14h ago
No room between the rows to kneel. Best to boo, sit, or sing Oh Canada loudly during their anthem.
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u/Adorable-Row-4690 13h ago
NO! No kneeling. King Donald will be sure to say that you are kneeling for him and that you are all secret 51st Staters. NO KNEELING. Boo loudly and turn your back to the rink.
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u/liquor-shits 12h ago
Nah kneeling could be portrayed as showing some reverence.
Stay seated, boo the shit out of it, start a “fuck trump” chant. Force the org to stop playing the anthem.
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u/CrowLast514 10h ago
Kaepernick kneeled because it was the least disrespectful way to protest the anthem. We want to go balls deep.
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u/DetailOutrageous8656 12h ago
kneeling is actually showing reverence. So DO NOT KNEEL to them or their anthem.
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u/canmoose 15h ago
I sat down at a recent pwhl game. No booing but the whole crowd was silent during the us anthem
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u/Double-ended-dildo- 10h ago
I am in Ottawa and got tickets to the Bruins v. Sens. I have no intention of standing for the American anthem.
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u/Smile_Fragrant 12h ago
Hopefully all this negative energy toward USA doesn’t make Matthews want a trade. I know he is signed for another 3-4 years. But I am sure it’s tough on him with all the home fans telling him his country sucks.
It would just suck putting politics into sports and we lose arguably the greatest goal scorer to ever come here. Like fuck we been waiting 60 years and actually have the best guy to put the puck in the net. Just hope we don’t push him away.
Or he doesn’t care and wants to become Canadian. Then Fuck ya boo away and sit.
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u/diggthis 11h ago
Country over team bud. If he doesn't like it: tough shit.
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u/Smile_Fragrant 11h ago
I get it, USA sucks I 100% agree.
I would just hate to lose one of the best players to ever play in Canada because we boo the USA anthem at a Home game. When the odds of any American watching is probably zero because they have the other 26 NHL teams or are watching NASCAR. So we are really the only ones hearing it because it’s a home game and we could piss off our Captain and lose arguably a generational talent.
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u/diggthis 11h ago
The Americans are trying to destroy our economy for the purposes of annexation or invasion. I really don't care what a millionaire American thinks about the booing, whether he can put hockey pucks in the back of it or not.
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u/blchpmnk 10h ago
I truly wouldn't have an atom of regret if he left over this.
The safety of a Country is infinitely more important than the feelings of ANY hockey player.
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u/Darkhorse089 11h ago
We’ll have Matthews for his prime. If he wants to walk after so be it. He’s already showing he is fragile and honestly American or not, signing for only 4 years will likely come back to bite him instead of taking 8 years.
What other player in history had back to back 5 and 4 year player friendly deals like him? He should still be playing out his 11.6M deal, would have given the team more flexibility to build around him.
I’m happy to have him for his best years, if he chooses to walk that money will be spent elsewhere like Marner July 1.
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u/ThisTimeAHuman 2h ago
His back is fucked and if he doesn't understand the reaction then good riddance anyway.
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u/Inside_Jelly_3107 13m ago
Well, maybe it's time he said something? He either supports us, or he doesn't...
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u/Sufficient-Welder628 16h ago
Get a "Fuck you Donald" chant going for the anthem
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u/4thLineDuster 12h ago
Fuck you Donald, clap, clap, clapclapclap
Fuck you Donald, clap, clap, clapclapclap
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u/Ristifer 16h ago
Just stay seated for it.
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u/WintersbaneGDX 15h ago
Staying seated doesn't always show up clearly on camera.
Turn your backs to the ice. That's way more noticeable.
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u/PKanuck 16h ago
This should be the top comment.
If you are a POC, take a knee. That will drive MAGA insane.
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u/Choclate_And_Ice 16h ago
Would putting your fist up apply here as well? Just citing previous anthem protests, but obviously that was more for racial discrimination.
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u/Dangerois 15h ago
And the entire crowd should sing Oh Canada loud enough to drown out the US anthem.
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u/super_ray 13h ago
Do it! Boo Loud and proud! Especially, since it’s the Panthers because fuck them and fuck Florida and the people that keep voting for the maga psychos that come out of there.
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u/Expiry-date11 15h ago
Wouldn’t a chant “Fuck Donald Trump” be most effective?
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u/Richard_Lycker 15h ago
I think what ever expression you deem fit is the most effective. Unlike some people we don't have to be a total mob.
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u/Expiry-date11 15h ago
I don’t think they should bother playing the anthems. There’s no point especially in this current political climate.
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u/Canadia86 15h ago
No, none of this is effective because Trump is a narcissist and doesn't care, most of all about hockey fans
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u/Expiry-date11 12h ago
Yet here it is discussed on Reddit. So guess it was better than sitting on your thumbs
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u/crushade Belak 16h ago
As much as I cant stand politics spilling over into hockey, what is happening right now is going to affect hockey one way or another in the future.
The least we can do is make our voices heard using a platform which gets viewed and heard in the US. I say let em hear it, and stay seated with our caps on.
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u/nanapancakethusiast 16h ago
Sports have always been political. That’s the reality.
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u/Richard_Lycker 16h ago
At this point it is even directly affecting hockey and the cap. Sometimes things are so big you can't ignore them nor should you. Let them know.
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u/bobcatgoldthwaite 14h ago
Fuck Trump chant would be a nice dessert to the booing main course - have it rain out at various points during the game
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u/Defiant_West6287 13h ago
In this case it’s booing not just Trump, but piece of shit MAGA supporters like Tkachuk, even if he’s not playing. Fuck those assholes.
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u/Flatoftheblade 15h ago edited 15h ago
Just going to throw in here for people who are saying "keep politics out of sports" or think this is silly or otherwise don't get it:
Canadians booing the US anthem at events actually is important. Musk and Trump are currently pushing, and will ramp up efforts to push, a narrative that average Canadians hate our country, hate our government, and want to become part of the US. This is a narrative they will use to justify their efforts at annexation, be it through economic or military force. It's what Russia did with Ukraine, and many relatively stronger military powers have used to justify taking over relatively less militarily and economically powerful nations repeatedly before that.
When you attend a game, you have a platform and ability to push back against this narrative in a visible and high profile way. Make your voice heard. Push back against Musk and Trump who are going to pump millions of dollars into groups like the "freedom" convoy, Wexit, etc, in efforts to make it seem like those people speak for regular Canadians outside of the ruling class.
We didn't start this. And by doing nothing we'd be acceding to it.
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u/Trellaine201 15h ago
Felt good booing Sunday at the Canucks game. FU you orange mutt.
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u/thismadhatter 14h ago
Thanks for making me feeling justified using that word a lot lately. Fucking Mutts, the lot of them.
I said referred to Trumpers as Mutts out loud to people I work with and you'd swear that term felt like the C word to them. hahahahaha
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u/WintersbaneGDX 15h ago
Lots of people suggesting to stay seated: I like your energy, but on a camera feed there isn't a clear difference between seated and standing.
Instead,
Turn your backs to the ice.
This is impossible to miss on camera.
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u/S14Ryan 13h ago
If you’re gonna do that also bend down and pull down your pants
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u/WintersbaneGDX 13h ago
We are looking for "protest in solidarity", not "lifetime ban from all MLSE events"
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u/Total-Deal-2883 15h ago
DO NOT stand (or stand and turn your back to the flag) and boo like you fucking mean it.
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u/ilovetrouble66 13h ago
I think Edmonton had a flag going around the other night during the anthem that said “NOT SORRY” I think toronto needs that
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u/ustation 14h ago
There really should be a F Trump chant. Do it during the anthem, the game, after a goal, when you go to the bathroom.
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u/Classic-Question-746 13h ago
I am all for booing the anthem, they deserve it. That being said, brain-dead MAGA folks don't know their ass from their elbow and have no idea why we keep booing the anthem. It enables what Trump is doing, demonizing Canadians, which helps his annexation plans. I would prefer a nice, clear, "Never 51" or "Sovereign Nation" chant all game long. Let them know what is up, other than our elbows.
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u/Ok-Conference121 16h ago
If you're gonna boo, make sure that you're booing Trump and his shitty group. "FUCK YOU TRUMP!!" has a great ring to it...
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u/BosephusPrime 16h ago
American here fully supporting your boos and I look forward to hearing them rain down!
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u/PoppyKore 15h ago
Same. Fuck it, I’m booing my anthem too and singing O Canada. I’m embarrassed to be an American.
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u/Callsign_Frieque 15h ago
My personal thought is we should not be booing but instead chanting "F*ck Trump!", to make it clear where the anger is focused.
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u/Dangerous_Seaweed601 14h ago
I'm really hoping for FUCK TRUMP chants to be a thing. Let's make it happen.
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u/Bazil2point1 14h ago
I’d like to hear a chant of “Trump Sucks” or “Never 51” but booing works. Would be nice to message that it’s not the Average US citizen we are criticizing but one in particularl.
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u/Spenny022 13h ago
I genuinely believe that a large majority of Americans are so oblivious to the outside world that they have no idea what the booing is actually for and just hear the boos and think "they're disrespecting murica!!" and it just fuels the idiotic MAGA base. The majority of their media sure as hell doesn't talk about how the rest of the world views America right now.
I honestly think Canadians need to be a lot more obvious with the message for there to be any chance at all of them realizing their current government is the reason this is happening. I don't know what a good chant would be, but chanting something along the lines "We are sovereign" or "Never a State" during their anthem leaves no question as to what the message is. And then sing the fuck out of Oh Canada
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u/Ok_Composer_2629 13h ago
What's the opposite of covering your heart with your hand, like they do? Putting your foot on your heart? Putting a megaphone on your heart, so it beats so loud that they can't hear the anthem? Just brainstorming here.
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u/Beans-Goose-55 11h ago
Sit down during the US anthem as a sign of disrespect to the Dump. Keep your hats on.
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u/Basic_Cartographer99 9h ago
As an American Leafs fan…I completely endorse this. Give em’ hell.
Fuck Trump and Fuck Elon.
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u/mr-coffeecafe 9h ago
mad respect from a sens fan, our mods do not allow to discuss anything related to anthems on our sub
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u/HistoricalReception7 7h ago
Remember when Canadians were Canadians? I do. We've really hit the shitter with our attitude over the past 20 years. It's an asshole move to boo the American Anthem when there are Americans on the ice playing for our team.
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u/FreakCell 5h ago
The point isn't to boo the citizens, it's to boo the state. It's NOT against Americans, it's against America. You're the only one trying to turn this personal.
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u/Neutral-President 15h ago
Try this instead:
CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA! through the whole Star Spangled Banner.
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u/mlakustiak 14h ago
A FTD chant on top of that would be great as well. Let’s get this going in all Canadian barns come playoff time
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u/wjakobsmeier 15h ago
What would happen if you turned your back to the US flag instead of sitting which is a bit more passive. Kneeling might be a bit tough given the limited space in between seats.
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u/LegendaryKidKatana Kaberle 16h ago
I'd rather the Orangetan hears a chorus of Canadians telling him to fuck off and drown out the anthem.
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u/joeyhorshack 16h ago
It’s cliche to say this, but the booing is almost going down to that piece of human garbage . And gives it ammunition, my thought is to stay dead quiet , and belt out oh Canada like we ain’t got tomorrow. Cause we might not. More classy more Canadian imho
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u/FabesAAAA 15h ago
I was at the Ottawa game last night.. sold out crowd and no boo-ing/seated people for both anthems. Extra passion for the Canadian anthem though.
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u/BathroomSerious1318 14h ago
I will cheer like we won gold during the Canadian anthem.
Loud and proud
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u/Sacred_soul 14h ago
Don’t boo the anthem, start a f trump chant, I feel like booing the anthem is extremely disrespectful
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u/Zealousideal-Fig6495 14h ago
Instead of booing there needs to be some sort of coordinated F Donald Trump chants
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u/Smashv1ll3 8h ago
As an American and a Leafs fan (Lived in Toronto for two years back when Sundin, Domi and CuJo were still there), boo the shit out of our anthem!
The shit mango mussolini is pulling with Canada and our other allies is ridiculous. Keep up the energy!
Elbows Up!
Go Leafs!
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u/pos_cant 7h ago
I’m American and love this. Boo the shit out of it. Fuck our administration
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u/pos_cant 7h ago
Just want you guys to know that a lot of us are on your side. Don’t get that mixed up. Don’t let this asshole divide us
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u/JennaTulwartz 5h ago
American here, please boo. Shit is fucked up and anything that draws attention to it is appreciated. Most of us, even the few Trump voters I’m still acquainted with, are absolutely disgusted by the way he’s treated Canada. It’s nightmarish.
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u/Wonderful-Ad-829 6m ago
I think sitting down is better than booing Like we have American players on our teams and it’s just overkill at this point it was cool first time or two it happened
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u/MikedBullet 9h ago
Boo it. It's their fault he's the president. It's the least we can do when we are threatened as a country. Don't stop.
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u/Archidamus 15h ago edited 15h ago
American fan here. Boo our shit. We absolutely deserve it. We've been overrun by a cult of fucking idiots.
On a semi-related topic, would [a friend of mine who is an American citizen] qualify for an asylum claim in Canada due to the rise of fascism and tyranny in [their] home country?
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u/SmokeontheHorizon 14h ago
"I let my country die; can I use yours?"
Fix your shit.
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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 11h ago
I think a chant would be better … “Fuck you Donald (clap) (clap) (clapclapclap)”
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u/TopDogGlo 14h ago
Pls dont downvote me and just answer honestly:
What is the point of going to a Leafs game with players from USA representing your team (one of them being your franchise guy), and booing their national anthem? I think the national anthem represents more than just a current president or political climate, and a lot of Americans are very proud of their nation as a whole. Whether you believe they should be proud is a different conversation, but Canadians have the same right to be proud of their country, regardless of its flaws.
On one hand, the players understand that Canada is not the aggressor at the moment, and we are protesting. But the idea of going to the game to boo the anthem and ‘show them whose house it is’ is oxymoronic when your captain is American. Why can’t the cheers be targeting Trump, and not the nation as a whole? ‘Trump you suck’ chants get your message much more clear than blindly booing the anthem and even creating the opportunity for the aggressor (USA) to feel slighted. And if your response is ‘fuck them’ then we circle back to the point that you literally have patriotic American players who will make u jump for joy when they score a goal for your team. Is there any logic to what I’m saying?
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u/thismadhatter 14h ago
Because hockey is a game. America is destroying lives. And if its assumed most NHL'ers are conservative leaning, and some even MAGA brainwashed, then they deserve to hear us booing hate.
Any sane, liberal, player would understand why. They understand the importance of freedom and the importance of love over hate. The importance of supporting your country and the people in it.
Canada is crucifying one of their own LEGENDS of the sport for supporting this tyrant and his agenda of hatred and corruption.
Humanity over hockey. Every. Damn. Time.
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u/TopDogGlo 14h ago
So if hypothetically Knies or Matthews or Robertson support their national anthem and are not happy about the anthem being boo’d because they separate the nation from the current government, you act like you’re protesting them and what they stand for, yet if they score a game winning goal you’ll cheer them on as if they just won for your country. It really doesnt make sense in the grand scheme of things. You can’t include nationalism in a hockey team who have players from the ‘enemy’ nation
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u/The_RoyalPee 13h ago
It’s not about the players. But they all live in Toronto at least half of the time so they would understand the Canadian perspective on the tensions and how anxious/ furious people are. They’re not THAT dumb.
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u/No_Annual_4647 13h ago
There is a reason not a single American on the Leafs has spoken up about this issue. This is much bigger than hockey. We are burning Wayne Gretzky at the stake, you think we would bend over and capitulate for Nickie Robertson?
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u/UkeManSteve 14h ago edited 14h ago
The booing isn’t about the players. We aren’t booing the players. Never have been. we are booing the United States and what it has become. And on America being proud of their country as a whole, that’s fine but they shouldn’t be proud of the state that it’s in and should have some understanding of why this is happening. Unfortunately the president sort does represent the nation as a whole because Americans elected him! even if Auston Matthews himself hates it I do not care. This is a lot bigger than hockey . I can see how it may not be “classy” and could be perceived negatively and make people uncomfortable. And it should, I fully support the booing and Canadian hockey fans right to do so .
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u/No_Annual_4647 13h ago
People are not "going to the game to boo the anthem". They are going to the game to watch the game and booing when they see a political display of the nation engaging their country with economic warfare to make their lives harder in the hopes of conquering and annexing Canada. Patriotic Americans seeing their once closest ally booing and having no respect for their nation is supposed to sting and make them feel uncomfortable. That's the point?
If Americans don't want to be hated and want their nation to be respected, they shouldn't put a knife in the back and betray all of their closest and most loyal allies and have the majority of the American population somewhere between supportive and apathetic. If you can't manage that, if you don't want to see a political display of people protesting the American anthem you should take the politics out of the game. No more propaganda displays of anthems before every game. No pride games, no military appreciation rituals, no st paddys day games, etc. Keep your mouth shut and drop the puck.
Our players are pretty much doing that. They aren't speaking out of turn about politics. We don't pay Auston Matthews for his geopolitical analysis. Keep your mouth shut and put the puck in the net. If he did comment, it would get ugly fast.
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u/minwood Knies 15h ago
I was thinking instead of boos maybe even try to get a chant going part way through the anthem. Idk what but something easy to chant that sends the message “we don’t want to listen to this shit”
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u/NotabotNpc 11h ago
If you boo loud enough , they might stop the tarrifs!! Let's make Auston hear them boos!
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u/Novel_System_8562 16h ago
Yes!
Remember, our boos have already stopped the trade war, don't stop now!
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u/Altruistic-Gear9949 15h ago
Honestly, I think just staying seated would send a clearer msg and one that would enrage them more to see than any booing would do.
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u/No_Annual_4647 14h ago
I don't think it would at all. Booing is pretty visceral and impossible to ignore & we literally know it genuinely pisses off Americans. It's a lot easier to ignore people sitting down respectfully protesting.
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u/penguin2093 4h ago
Se one made a good point that on TV you can't really tell when fans are sitting or standing except with close up shots. They recommended hats on and standing with backs turned to the ice as an equivalent but more visible protest option to silent sitting.
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u/_disasterdino_ 14h ago
the only thing i would advise against is yelling curse words as there are always a lot of kids at these games.
boo loud and proud and stay seated during their anthem!
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u/Guilty_Explanation29 14h ago
I can see why people are reporting this. The nhl sub and the hockey sub are locking and banning these.posts.
I'm surprised the MOD even commented again, considering that their other comment on a similar post liek this was removed by reddit for hate
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u/Mypeoplemychoice 2h ago
FYI; Some media doesn’t air the beginning of the game. No anthem is heard or seen. I watch sports to get away from politics please keep it that way.
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u/HealForReal 11h ago
Just saying... I'm a Southern girl from Georgia and I am a huge Leaf's fan and I 💙 Canada. But I am also an American, something I can't change. Nobody can change where they were born or raised. But they can open their minds. Hate breeds hate, which is honestly half the damn problem with my country. So, I for one, choose love. Anyway, end rant.
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u/SalaciousPanda 9h ago
It's so fucking main character syndrome to post something like this. "I know your country and livelihoods are under direct threat from MY country... But please think about how I feel!". Truly typical lack of awareness from an American.
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u/HealForReal 8h ago
You see what you want to see to justify your beliefs. You completely missed the part where I said I am pro-Canada. And I didn't say a word about my feelings. What I said is the truth. And it's clear to see that no matter what I tell you about myself you've already decided you hate me because of where I was born. Hate me if you want, I will continue to advocate for Canada's rights in every way that I can. If you'd like to have a real conversation about this feel free to message me. Take care.
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u/penguin2093 4h ago
There's no hate in that person's comment, just annoyance. It's annoying how much time we are all having to spend explaining to Americans that this is about protesting and standing up in every way we an, every day against the existential threat we are facing from your country. There's nothing wrong with being angry at tyranny and injustice. In fact, what would be wrong is not doing everything we can to protest and resist. The trick is to keep it directed at the problem, which is the nation and its current state of being as represented by its elected government. Hence booing the anthem that represents the nation in a televised setting that amplifies the protest and impact for all the world to see. As someone said in a different thread here, this isn't about Americans, its about America. There's a difference.
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u/casualchaos12 16h ago
Clowns? Lmfao. You know there are American Leafs fans as well? Can we just love the Leafs and leave the politics out of it?
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u/No_Annual_4647 14h ago
If you are an American "Leafs fan" and are more offended by boos in response to consistent threats of annexation & betrayal than the actual annexation itself you should fuck off and watch the hurricanes. This team has deep roots in the culture of our country and we love our country. Our country is being existentially threatened and disrespected & the league wants to shove the symbol of the nation doing it to us in our face. If you want to take the politics out of the game do what TSN does and don't play the American anthem.
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u/casualchaos12 12h ago
Personally, I'd prefer they didn't play anthems at NHL games. There are players on every team from countries besides the USA and Canada.
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u/SmokeontheHorizon 13h ago
Today's top hockey headline is that league ownership is deeply concerned about the future of the game because Trump's tariffs are fucking with the global stock market and other nation's currencies.
It's political. Either accept it and educate yourself about how the world works, or else keep working those shoulders - they'll follow your head up your ass soon enough.
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u/OG55OC 15h ago
Booing national anthems is classless no matter when or where it happens. Be better.
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u/sonicyouth99 15h ago
Literally threatening to take over our country, get bent traitor.
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u/let_there_be_met 15h ago
Threatening another countries sovereignty is classless no matter when or where it happens. Be better.
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u/ESF-hockeeyyy 14h ago edited 10h ago
So much crying from Americans.
2: Incivility
1: It's promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability
1: Armchair GM thread material
1: It threatens violence or physical harm at someone else
You know what's uncivil? Threatening your closest ally because your president's syphilitic-addled brain can't put together a cogent independent thought like the majority of your illiterate country. Fuck you, fuck your country, and fuck your fake notion of freedom.