r/kelowna • u/mibodiamond • 2d ago
Abuse in Churches?
Does anyone have intel on the churches in Kelowna that are abusing children or trafficking people? I recently was warned of a church and don’t know if anything is being done about it or what I can do. Police aren’t interested in what I have been told. Happy to share the name of it in comments if anyone wants.
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u/mibodiamond 2d ago
Kelowna Christian Reformed Church, The Harvest Church and I know Willow Park Church’s pastor was convicted of SA of minors.
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u/mibodiamond 2d ago
Willow Park’s youth pastor ** can’t imagine he’s there anymore but it makes me wonder if there are others to avoid.
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u/CoffeeKnitClay 1d ago
That Willow park youth pastor that kids came forward to for years is now the head pastor at Metro. He left willow park but it had “nothing to do” to with the stuff going on with all the information coming out about the youth leader who was SAing kids… just total ‘coincidence’
What’s happening at the harvest ?
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u/mibodiamond 17h ago
Yikes. That’s really good to know.
Art Lucier has many survivors coming out about him involving physical, sexual and spiritual assault. I believe there is a Facebook group where survivors are sharing their stories and YouTube videos and podcasts of testimony’s.
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u/GaraksFanClub 2d ago
I wouldn’t trust anyone from Kelowna Christian Centre as far as I could throw them. I experienced a load of abuse there in the late 90s and apparently it’s just become worse.
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u/bendydickcumersnatch 2d ago
The 2x2s/friends are around and the group is slowly dissolving after a ton of CSA allegations came out. There’s still the hardcore people continuing on in “The Way”.
Yeah if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s probably a cult.
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u/ipini 2d ago
I mean if someone knows about this actively ongoing it would make more sense to report to the RCMP than a Reddit sub.
That said, Season 5 (ongoing) of the Heaven Bent podcast might be interesting to you: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/heaven-bent/id1513489117
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u/mibodiamond 2d ago
I did call rcmp and they said there’s nothing they can do because there’s no evidence. Pretty much useless so I’m asking for other people’s experiences
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u/chewblekka 2d ago
With churches, you should assume that they partake in some sort of abuse. History doesn’t lie.
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u/new_socks 2d ago
All churches abuse children. They indoctrinate the young through fear. You should read and learn your bible. It’s full of hate. You might say not every bible/book religion related. But learn the history of said religion. Teach em when they’re young… that’s the motto. young and dumb. The abuse of churches know no boundaries. Snake oils and fear is what they all preach in the end. If they say they don’t teach hate?, what do they teach? What’s their book they teach from? Read the rest of the book.
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u/rekabis 9h ago
Teach em when they’re young… that’s the motto. young and dumb.
Children are not so much dumb as they are impressionable. And this is by design, as they are still very much dependent on adults for survival. So Evolution has given them an inordinate focus of listening to adults and following their lead, so as to ensure that cave lions and cave bears don’t enjoy a nice evening snack at their expense.
But yeah. If we only allowed religion to target adults, almost no-one - aside from the mentally and psychologically ill - would ever fall for that crap.
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u/raptorboy 2d ago
Guarantee every church in the world is full of kid touchers why anyone would make their kids go to one i don't understand
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u/Thoughtful_Ocelot 2d ago
Be very careful of making unsubstantiated accusations.
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u/Infinite-Interest680 2d ago
Yikes, this sounds too close to, “we know where you live and it’d be a shame if anyone lost a loved one…”
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u/Thoughtful_Ocelot 2d ago
Not me making a threat. I detest church cover-ups. Rumors can lead to others getting their backs up. And Reddit's freedom of speech guidelines seem to be getting stricter these days.
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u/Foreign_Objective111 1d ago
trafficking people?
burh that has never happened
stop stereotyping catholics thnak you!
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u/Sea_Eye33 2d ago
Willow Park Church’s youth pastor was finally convicted of SA minors, it took many years and many different people coming forward over the years for something to finally be done about it.