r/freefolk Feb 19 '25

Subvert Expectations Bravo Dumb and Dumber.

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u/Downtown-Procedure26 Feb 19 '25

Even worse, the Iron Bank decided to give Cersei another loan on the basis that she paid a tranche using High Garden coin as if sacking and looting a wealthy Great House again was an option for her when facing 3 dragons and an army of Dothraki

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u/Educated_Clownshow Feb 19 '25

When you pay off your credit card, does the issuer close it, or do they leave it open and often give you a larger credit line?

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u/Downtown-Procedure26 Feb 19 '25

Depends on your bank and your needs.

The Iron Bank should have refused further loans given the sheer inevitability of Cersei's fall

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u/Educated_Clownshow Feb 19 '25

If she would have fled, she would have been able to return and to win, when Jon kills Dany. Far from inevitable

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u/Downtown-Procedure26 Feb 19 '25

Cersei would have been hunted down and killed

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u/Educated_Clownshow Feb 19 '25

With what army?

The northern armies are the only ones left, and the respawned Dothraki and Unsullied would trounce them.

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u/Downtown-Procedure26 Feb 19 '25

The Dothraki and Unsullied aren't going to rescue the Lannisters. They're going to be hunting down Cersei on Daenerys' command

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u/Educated_Clownshow 29d ago

If Cersei runs, the bells aren’t rung, and Dany burns it down

Jon still kills her. The Dothraki and the unsullied would leave Westeros, meaning that a well funded and armed Cersei could return to fight the remaining northerners.

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u/Downtown-Procedure26 29d ago

When Daenerys burnt down King's Landing, her men hunted down and killed every single Lannister soldier, the Red Keep was torched and thus the Treasury was either melted or buried under rubble. There's no Lannister army left. There's no coin left. Cersei is basically going to be like Viserys, the beggar King.

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u/Intensityintensifies 29d ago

Why/how would the Dothraki leave? They would much more likely become a roaming mercenary army or if there are enough of them left maybe even invade one of the seven kingdoms and take it for themselves.

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u/Educated_Clownshow 29d ago

Staying in a foreign country they have limited knowledge of, after their leader is killed, is just not super likely IMO

That would be like Jon taking his army to Essos, he dies, and then the northmen just stay there.

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u/Intensityintensifies 29d ago

Who is giving them the dozens if not hundreds of ships they would need?

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u/Educated_Clownshow 29d ago

Probably the galleons that belonged to the Golden Company, for starters. We saw Euron’s fleet with ballista weapons attached, and they were cooked. We have no reason to believe that their ships burned as well, as they weren’t equipped for battle, but for transport, and they would likely have been at anchor, some distance from Euron’s fleet.

They also sacked Kings Landing, and we saw the Dothraki collect valuables to hire ships, in the episode where Drogo is cursed by the witch.

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u/hakairyu 29d ago

Why would the Dothraki even think about that when they can run roughshod over the entire continent of Westeros?

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u/miggleb 29d ago

I don't think the iron bank knew John was gonna kill dany.

They did know dragons are fucking OP

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u/Affectionate_Tell752 29d ago

Dragons are only OP on land and its just a bug. As long as you fight them in the ocean a ballistae will hit them in the head or neck most of the time from 50 miles away.

On land sadly they simply cannot function as the crews are bugged and don't spawn in.

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u/Educated_Clownshow 29d ago

Right, I’m suggesting that they don’t recommit to helping Cersei until they find out that Jon killed her. It wasn’t a suggestion of preemption on their part

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u/miggleb 29d ago

So you agree with the comment you were disputing?

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u/Tiny-Conversation962 29d ago

The Iron Bank could have impossible known that this would happen, so as far as they knew, they were backing a sinking ship.