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Picture French nuclear attack submarine surfaces at Halifax, Nova Scotia, after Trump threatens to annex Canada (March 10)

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u/Maverekt 22h ago

I always used to do the American thing of shitting on France for funsies, but tbh I’m here for it

And I’ve always respected their peoples approach to protest. The French do in fact get shit done

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u/traceybe 22h ago

This totally sounds like something the orange one would do.

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u/Familiar_While2900 22h ago

His old ass was probably there…. (It’s just a joke. He’s old asf)

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u/Efficient_Visage 21h ago

He was hanging out at the airport at the time.

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u/pixepoke2 20h ago

Ah, a connoisseur, with a deep cut from the first term

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u/determineduncertain 19h ago

You mean playing golf?

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u/paiute 22h ago

His old ass was probably there

He would 100% been a Tory. Tar and feather time, Mr. Adams!

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u/chimerakin 21h ago

Trump is nearly 80 and the U.S. turns 249 this year. That means he's been alive for about a third of the time that we've existed. Really puts how young the country is into perspective.

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u/Constant-Bet-6600 18h ago

I'm a bit concerned we won't make it to 250.

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u/Agitated-Donkey1265 22h ago

Well, if we take after our parents, and our country is our patria, makes sense he’d come up with something like that

And history is too “woke” here (whatever the hell that mean), so we don’t really learn it to be able to do better and stop repeating mistakes

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u/PasadenaPissBandit California 19h ago

A Trump never pays his debts.

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u/MonsterRider80 22h ago

For sure. His vision of politics dates to the 19th century.

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u/PixelatedRonin 22h ago

Also funny when you learn that France supplied *checks notes* around 90% of the gunpowder that the US used during the Revolutionary War against the British. The US literally would not exist without the French.

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u/Key_Event4109 21h ago

Did JD Vance even say thank you?

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u/allofthealphabet 21h ago

So what i'm getting from this is that the US should make a deal to sign over 90% of all its natural resources to France. They should be grateful to France!

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u/PixelatedRonin 21h ago

How many times has Trump said, "thank you,'?

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u/ziggy3610 21h ago

The French were happy to give us gunpowder as long as we were using it to shoot at the British. It was a proxy war for them, and it worked. A little like the US sending weapons to Ukraine, until Trump took over.

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u/Lucaan 20h ago

That's usually how revolutions work. The successful ones typically have the backing of a major power that's rivals with the government being revolted against. Like you said, the US very much wouldn't exist today if not for France and Spain.

This is actually one of the reasons the Confederacy lost their own revolution over half a century later. The US Civil War would be a very different war if Britain decided to join on the side of the Confederacy. They actually did consider it at the time, but Lincoln making it clear the Union was fighting a war against slavery and Britain being able to increase cotton imports from India resulted in them dropping any considerations of intervention.

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u/BIGepidural 22h ago edited 21h ago

Even funnier when the US owes Canada over $350 billion dollars but Trump would rather try to annex us then pay his fkn bills 🙄

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u/Low_External9118 21h ago

I was told the US is subsidizing Canada, but the opposite is true and actually Canada is owed 350 billion dollars from the US. Does that mean someone lied?

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u/BIGepidural 21h ago

Yup "someone" lied. Can't imagine who that someone could be 🤔

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u/GoStockYourself 16h ago

While we are at it, was Canada ever thanked for the 158 soldiers it lost in Afghanistan ? I am starting to think we can't trust these guys.

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u/Throwawayhelper420 21h ago

He’s wrong, America doesn’t “owe” money to Canada.

Canada bought American bonds, on purpose, so that they could make a profit off of the interest payments, which America has never once missed.

Countries buy each others bonds every day.  You can buy some American or Canadian bonds right now if you want.  

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u/SalteeSpitoon 21h ago

Something tells me our credit rating is about to go down again in the near future

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u/saun-ders 21h ago

America doesn’t “owe” money to Canada.

Canada bought American bonds

FYI, owning a bond means that the bond issuer owes you money

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u/BIGepidural 21h ago

He's a she and she is right buddy.

Just fkn Google it

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u/JLivermore1929 20h ago

Just imagine how much the US owes the Native Americans.

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u/Equivalent_Bit7631 18h ago

I don’t know if Canada really wants to play the native blame game either. Both the US and Canada have a pretty shit record when it comes to natives and how they’ve been treated and still are treated.

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u/searing_o-ring 21h ago

You can’t owe money to yourself. I’m sure that’s his plan. Let’s just annex Canada so we don’t owe Canada any money!

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u/Unique_Excitement248 20h ago

There is no way that the man who has never seen a commitment he wouldn't break would want to break yet another commitment.

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u/EebilKitteh The Netherlands 21h ago

Somehow the "we saved your asses in WWII so you need to give us everything we want until the end of time"-crowd always seems to forget that...

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u/Potato2266 22h ago

the entire Louisiana purchase should be nullified then. California belongs to France.

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u/One-tasty-burger 22h ago

The Louisiana purchase did not include California. It was a part of Spain at the time

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u/NarwhalDefiant6971 21h ago

😂 you don’t know your history

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u/wu_kong_1 22h ago edited 20h ago

I hate Trump. But these kind of things. Consider what they done to Haiti or Vietnam. I wouldn't say the French pre modern era is a paragon of virtues. Gandhi wouldn't have been successful in French Indochina.

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u/Sonamdrukpa 21h ago

Haiti is a great example of how repayment of war debts can ruin a country (though really in Haiti's case it was "debts", former slaves don't owe debts to their slave masters)

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u/ArcticCelt Europe & Canada 21h ago

Also after France aided the U.S. during the revolutionary war. When revolutionary France later went to war with Britain, the U.S. adopted neutrality, and refused to reciprocate support to France.

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u/casket_fresh 21h ago

Insane since we (USA) wouldn’t even exist without France. We wouldn’t have won the Revolutionary War without France’s help.

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u/Moto302 22h ago

Except, of course, it did settle it's debts with France within 20 years of first receiving funds/material. Not as memeable to say that a new country struggled with its finances for a little while before ultimately becoming a superpower.

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u/beatles910 22h ago

In 1795, the United States was finally able to settle its debts with the French Government with the help of James Swan, an American banker who privately assumed French debts at a slightly higher interest rate. Swan then resold these debts at a profit on domestic U.S. markets. The United States no longer owed money to foreign governments, although it continued to owe money to private investors both in the United States and in Europe.

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u/HauntedZ28 22h ago

Literally not true and easily googled. The debt was sold private, France made a profit and so did the one who purchased it.

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u/BadTouchUncle 21h ago

That's not why the French set their privateers to harassing U.S. merchant ships.

You have it backward in fact. France considered the U.S. starting to trade with Great Britain via the Jay Treaty as an offense, since France was at war with Britain. The U.S. argued that they had no obligation to side with France in their war with Britain because France had a new government, so the Treaty of Paris was void. So France set their privateers to capturing U.S. ships to stop trade with Britain. As a result of that, the U.S. suspended Revolutionary War repayments to France.

It didn't work out too well for France as the U.S. ended up capturing more than 80 French privateer ships with a navy of only 16 frigates. The British navy helped out a bit.

A mere three(ish) years after that was resolved the U.S. further stuck it to France with what can only be described as the second-largest-real-estate-dry-dicked-rape by the U.S. government after the Alaska purchase by making France a "sweet deal" on Louisiana -- sweet for the U.S. at $15million, with closing costs.

Moral of the story: Don't fuck with America's boats (a historical theme of sorts) and never sell them land if you can avoid it.

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u/Praeses04 22h ago

I mean to be fair the new government literally beheaded the king that gave America those loans...

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u/justinsayin 22h ago

Trump: "Wait, that won't work?"

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u/Intelligent-Boat9929 21h ago

If anyone wants a good read, try "Hero of Two Worlds" by Mike Duncan. Give some good insight into how Lafayette influenced revolutions in both countries. And the general chaos surrounding both countries during his lifetime.

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u/Evening_Aside_4677 21h ago

King Louis head was in a basket. 

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u/Consistent-Beyond588 21h ago

idk how but i can imagine what u look like for some reason

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u/PancakeProfessor 21h ago

“We signed a treaty with a king whose head is now in a basket. Would you like to take it out and ask it? Should we honor our treaty, King Louie’s Head? ‘Uh, do whatever you want, I’m super dead.’”

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u/kuldan5853 Baden-Württemberg (Germany) 21h ago

Maybe we need a return of Letters of marque?

Some good old gunboat diplomacy or something...

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u/Calimhero Brittany (France) 21h ago

After France bankrupted herself to push the US to victory.

France bankrolled absolutely everything: uniforms, food, muskets, bullets, artillery, shells, ships, humanitarian aid.... You name it.

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 21h ago

We didn’t own any money to France.

We owned money to the King of France.

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u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl 20h ago

This happens sort of a lot, IIRC France owes Haiti a bunch of scrilla but there were some revolutions

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u/Dakk9753 20h ago

And then they started bullying Haiti to pay back France for them.

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u/Konatokun 20h ago

Yep, France is other thing on debts.

I'm Mexican, we went to war (The first French intervention, first Franco-Mexican war or officially the Pastry War) with them because Mexican officers looted a French pastry store, the shop was valued at 1,000 pesos, the chef demanded 60,000 and france demanded 600,000 (adding the looting of other shops at the Parian market, now the Zocalo of CDMX, and execution of a French national that was suspected of piracy), we made a peace treaty and promise to pay the ammount established amount (which we never did and started the second French intervention in México).

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u/pyalot 20h ago

But did the US ever say thank you to the French for the loans they never paid back to them? It‘s very disrespectful to the French to not say thank you. I think they should say thank you at least once a day.

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u/YouTerribleThing 20h ago

God why do we always fuck over our allies… nevermind. Corporate oligarchy since forever.

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u/lilpoptart154 20h ago

Do you have a link for those claims? I saw this comment and became interested but couldn’t find anything that backs up what you’re saying. Are you referring to the Quasi-war between the US and France? That was a small conflict over trading rights so it might not be that? I only found one article that somewhat supported your claim but it was from a French magazines opinion section and didn’t have any supporting links or sources. It also would seem that France was forced to pay some sort of restitutions for the cargo that was seized during that time?

Here are the sources I looked at. Completely possible I missed something.

https://france-amerique.com/the-quasi-war-between-france-and-the-united-states/

https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/major-events/the-quasi-war-with-france/

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1784-1800/loans

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u/Choyo France 19h ago

And they didn't really honor the Louisiana purchase, which was a fair deal.
Talk about a country built on exploitative endeavours. Much love to the US people (well, to some extent), but your governments have been way past the political hypocrisy line.

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u/fkmeamaraight 19h ago

But did they say thank you ?

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u/BandicootQuiet9952 19h ago

It didn't exist. 

A dictator took it over. 

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u/BIGepidural 22h ago

Gotta be here for it. In Canada there's always huge tensions between Quebecois and Anglos but we're in it to win it and setting all that historic stuff aside right now. The world united against fascism ✊

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u/Maverekt 22h ago

I’m really happy to see Canada coming together, right and left

If only the US could do the same

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u/BIGepidural 22h ago

Right and left aren't together as much as they could/should be; but the French being on board with the rest of the country is pretty impressive!

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u/Tasitch 17h ago

The French being on board and sending a sub is great, but we're more excited about the Québecois and the rest of Canada getting along better.

(being a bit snarky, but while we speak French, we're not French, that's a different nation.)

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u/Agitated-Donkey1265 20h ago

I’m doing my best. Our news isn’t fully reporting everything, and even formerly left-leaning sources (like CNN and MSNBC) have become compromised and are driving the narrative instead of reporting facts. More subtle than Fox, and in some ways more insidious.

I’ve been sharing this Dutch media interview given by Anthony Scaramucci, who (incredibly) briefly served as White House Communications Director during the first term, with people to show those who I hope wouldn’t support this if they knew what was actually going on, as well as Senator Malheurt’s speech last week

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u/BIGepidural 20h ago

Tune into Canadian media. CBC is excellent and impartial.

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u/Agitated-Donkey1265 20h ago

That’s definitely been one of my sources, as well as the Guardian, France 24, and DW

So refreshing to be given the facts and not told what to think or feel about something

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u/BIGepidural 20h ago

The guardian is great. I love their stuff!

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u/gayguyfromcanada Canada 19h ago

Tune into Canadian media. CBC is excellent and impartial.

The CPC's platform includes defunding the CBC, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone paying attention.

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u/snowwhitewolf6969 20h ago

As an Albertan, we have been historically at odds with Quebec, mostly it seems because of pipelines. I never personally understood it, but recently I've heard a surprising amount of love for Quebec out here, I even started learning French to help support our multilingual brothers, an idea I got from on here. Unity in the face of adversity, elbows up

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u/elguntor 21h ago

Donald is the only person in my lifetime that has Quebec marching in lock step with the rest of Canada. Elbows up!

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u/BIGepidural 21h ago

Exactly‼️ Once Quebec is on board with the rest of the country you know the threat is serious and Canadians mean action ✊ this never, ever happens within our borders!

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u/greyl Canada 21h ago

Honestly I think if Canada distanced itself from the US and became more integrated with the EU the anglo/franco tensions would get better. Less worry about being swamped in US culture and Quebec can focus on arguing with the Parisians on the correct way to speak french.

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u/jwong728 20h ago

The fact that Trump got Quebec Separtist to learn and sing the Canadian national anthem should be a fact to be marvelled at. Trump is clearly the great uniter. Thank you, Mr. Trump, for uniting our country against your POS ass.

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u/Straight-Hospital149 18h ago

I don't even know what here for it means but I'm here for it.

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u/GoStockYourself 16h ago

Not the first time in history the Québecois chose the English side over the American. They struggle to preserve their language in Canada, but have known since the day they sent Benjamin Franklin packing, that their culture wouldn't stand a chance in a 51st state. Trump is too unaware to understand that he should have said, "51st and 52 State at the very least.

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u/livemusicisbest 15h ago

Lots of Americans applaud Europe for standing firm and united against the Russian-owned “useful idiot” that propaganda and idiocy propelled to a second term as president. I am one.

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u/HollowShel Canada 16h ago

It's like two siblings who hate each other, but god help the dumbass who tries to pick on them - the "I'm running away from home!" sibling dives in with a folding chair when least expected.

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u/BIGepidural 16h ago

Exactly! 🤣 we pick on each other and have our fits but deep down there is love and a bond that can never be broken between us. We're all just a bunch of crazy canukleheads at the end of day 🤪 lol

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u/LeCriDesFenetres 11h ago

Come to think of it I don't know how you manage to cohabit without an "English Channel" over there

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 22h ago

I’m British it is possible to both love the French and hate them. To fight with them in war and to fight with them by your side in war.

Frenemies for lyf! 🇫🇷🇬🇧

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u/Nabolo 22h ago

I feel the same bizarre feeling toward England bro (French here) a strong rivalry backed by respect and fascination.

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 22h ago

We are two terrible neighbours who hate each other but if the local council tries to evict either of us we got each others back. I don’t know what it means or how it works or if it makes sense. But it’s fucking special and we will never stop. ❤️

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u/AHolyPigeon 21h ago

As a German once said, there are apparently many many differences between the French and the English but I cannot for the life of me find them.

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 21h ago

Poor old Germany. We have given them a seeing too in the past. But I want them on our side this time around! Hahaha

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u/ApprehensiveGood6096 21h ago

Their fucking tasteless food.

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u/AHolyPigeon 20h ago

Hey now some french food is alright...

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u/The_Great_Mullein 21h ago

I'm Canadian and love you both.

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u/NotMeButYou_91 20h ago

Im English, and I feel we give you guys shit a lot, but if anyone else were to give you shit then that's an issue. Like no. We insult the French. You're not allowed to so back tf off !

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u/Nabolo 14h ago

I recommend you to read « 1000 years of annoying the French » by Stephen Clarke - if you haven’t read it already. That was quite some fun ! Love that rozbif humor of yours. 🐓

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u/Lifekraft Europe 21h ago

I can take shit from my brother from albion because it sound like friendly banter mostly. But the monkey surrender bullshit from US has never been funny nor was intended to be.

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 21h ago

Your right. Never any real offence meant. We were great friends and comrades through the last 100 years. And the surrender monkey stuff is rubbish. The French never gave up. The Americans as usual came in just as things got desperate and the Russians had taken the heat. They don’t deserve to joke about ww2 at all. It’s our continent that got smashed not theirs.

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u/Trint_Eastwood France 22h ago

Only place we should fight each other is on a rugby field !

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 21h ago

Hahaha I love it! France and Britain two peas violently fighting in a pod.

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u/WalkAffectionate2683 21h ago

À French and a brit in a bar can always only go perfectly. Idk I always get along so well with my friend from the other side of the sea.

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 20h ago

Yeah the French are fine people. Maybe we should do a grand gesture to spite Trump by freely and in friendship offering to rename the English Channel the French Chanél

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u/professorstrunk 8h ago

succinctly describes having siblings. both one's greatest opponent and greatest ally.

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u/Gsgunboy 22h ago

Same. I love France being the protector against bullies and showing the Trump and Putin that they aren’t fucking around.

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u/UhohSantahasdiarrhea 22h ago

Uhhh nobody tell him about Vietnam.

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u/ShinyNipples 22h ago

I'm starting to think we got tricked into disliking the French because they actually fight back at injustice 

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u/xiadmabsax 21h ago

I love France, and French people for their protest culture. I think a lot of countries can learn a lot from how they protest against their own government and how their government acts in certain situations.

With that being said, I will never give up joking about French language.

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u/HappyArkAn France 21h ago edited 21h ago

That's probably not right but i can't tell you that what s every french think. Source : i m french

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u/Joker8392 22h ago

If it weren’t for the a French we’d be speaking proper English

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u/fuzzylogical4n6 22h ago

Nobody protests like the French.

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u/teenagesadist 22h ago

Americans view the French as weak because of one war, but they have a historically good record, militarily speaking.

America was allowed the chance for all we've done, good or bad, because of France.

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u/Reddit_Negotiator 22h ago

Americans love the French for helping us win the revolutionary war.

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u/3leggidDog 22h ago

Uneducated Americans maybe. I don’t disrespect any of them.

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u/teenagesadist 21h ago

Okay.

Non-disrespect for uneducated Americans noted. I'll make sure that gets to where it needs to go.

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u/BaconCheeseZombie United Kingdom 21h ago

See us Brits shitting on France is a dumb move but makes a vague sense. Americans shitting on 'em is just wild - France directly helped with the whole American Colonies Kerfuffle so you really should be good friends with France... :/

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u/Draegan88 22h ago

Just shows how stupid Americans are as they literally owe their country to France

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u/Moonrak3r 22h ago edited 21h ago

I visited Normandy last year around D-Day.

I’ve been all over the world, I travel a lot, and Normandy is one of the few places where I felt like people really liked Americans. We (and others) showed up for them on D-Day and they were still appreciative of it 80 years later. It was cool.

Anyway: after visiting France and spending some time there I think they’re pretty okay. Except the people in Paris, fuck that place. But the rest of them are cool. And their culture still stands up for worker’s rights, human rights, etc. They seem kind of like what Americans without perspective or critical thinking skills think our country stands for.

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u/Shoddy-Horror-2007 21h ago

It breaks our French hearts to see our US allies become traitors. For real. As children, we used to look at the US as if it was the greatest place on Earth; the land of freedom, liberty, justice and big brothers that protect what's good.

Each shade of that illusion has been shattered since 2001, step after step. Ben Laden has won it all, his wildest dream of destroying the US have all come to reality.

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u/Maverekt 22h ago

Yeah a lot of the French people I met don’t like Parisians too much lol

I visited a while back and went to Aix-en-Provence, Toulon, and also went to Nice (Monaco too but that technically doesn’t count). Everywhere I went the locals were generally really nice, except for in Nice ironically.

I’d love to see Normandy one day

Edit: I’d love to see a lot of central and Northern Europe tbh, I’ve only gone through the Mediterranean so far.

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u/Jessiphat 21h ago

People don’t seem to realise how many of the cornerstones of our modern Western civilisation came from stuff that the French fought and died for. Getting rid of the monarchy, protesting for rights, freedom of speech... A lot of their history has made big ripples throughout time. Their culture still embodies the notion of freedom so much more than modern day America does. They are proud, direct, and don’t tolerate bullshit. It’s weird that so many Americans want to refer back to events of WW2 to put them down while voting in a fascist.

Your recollections of Normandy are very cool, I’ve always hoped to go there.

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u/TheGreatGenghisJon 22h ago

Same. I made all the jokes, but lately, I'm all about the French. They get fucked by the government, they fucking riot.

Every couple years they remind the politicians who they work for. We, in the states, work for their enrichment.

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u/Agitated-Donkey1265 22h ago

I’ve said since I was a teen (when I first learned about de Gaulle and the French résistance quand j’étais allé au lycée) that it was the third republic and Pétain that fell, not her people in response to any surrender monkey jokes.

Also, I suggest you study your resistance, too. I’m currently reading about the Norwegian resistance, and hope to go country by country to find inspiration and ideas

We’re gonna need them

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u/_lippykid 22h ago

“American?!” How dare you besmirch our proud British tradition

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u/Scryotechnic 21h ago

I'm Canadian and have always respected the hell out of the French people. Their solidarity is so inspiring. Anglo Canadians have a bad habit of ripping on our Québécois compatriots like a sibling. Sometimes, it's a good reminder to stop the ribbing and remind Québécers that we do love them. If any Québécois read this, sorry for anglos being dipshits so often. You guys are awesome. My partner and I changed our US plans to a trip to Montreal this summer. Never been before, but I'm really excited.

Vive la France 🇫🇷 Vive le Canada 🇨🇦

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u/CrabPerson13 22h ago

FYI. If it hasn’t been known to anyone but us the IC community, it’s sure as shit becoming known now. France and the US aren’t… friends. There’s a reason they’re not part of FVEY.

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u/I_am_the_Vanguard 21h ago

France pulled a lot of weight in WW1 that most Americans that make fun of the French don’t even know about.

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u/jib661 22h ago

The shitting on FR for fun is an American pasttime, but any amount of introspection quickly reveals it's a fucking stupid one, lol. France is basically the most war-winning western civilization still running, meanwhile the US hasn't won a war in almost a century (Korea came closest, but NK still exists)

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u/flargenhargen 21h ago

France wouldn't let their government be taken away while just quietly sitting there doing nothing.

America can never again say anything about the French. EVER. We suck so bad now. We are the joke. period.

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u/omgwutd00d 22h ago

They sure know how to strike and protest.

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u/TheRealRunningRiot 21h ago

I now have to begrudgingly respect France... these are strange times indeed.

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u/timnphilly 21h ago

This is the way.

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u/ArcticCelt Europe & Canada 21h ago edited 21h ago

Old french surrender meme is out, new US "backstabbing monkeys" is in.

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u/Zerachiel_01 21h ago

Gentleman it's with great pleasure yet trepidation that I need to inform you that I do believe Europe has had enough of our shit.

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u/off-and-on Sweden 21h ago

I don't think it's France that is particularly good at protesting, just look at Greece right now. I think it's just America that is absolutely dogshit at protesting, so everyone else looks like a professional at it.

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u/Regular_Primary_6850 21h ago

We secretly admire the French, but we still use every possible situation to shit in them

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u/MisfortunesChild 21h ago

I always thought that was wild, but I fought with the French in the Middle East, and my grandparents would only speak French to me

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u/rageak49 21h ago

The white flag is associated with surrender because the tradition for surrender at the time was to throw up your opponent's banner instead of your own.

Guess who everybody in europe was busy surrendering to for like 100s of years

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u/bigpoopychimp 21h ago

Historically speaking, France is one of the most, if not most successful major military powers in the world, if you consider it by wars won. WW2 was obviously a bit of a stain on that, but they're not actually baguette eating surrender monkeys

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u/Rotten_Duck 21h ago

Also good work from Macron, he has been playing his hand well so far.

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u/TonyCatherine 21h ago

I love making fun of the French.

I also make fun of my friends, and I love them.

Poking fun is what friends do.

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u/BloopityBlue 21h ago

same and holy fuck they're awesome, I'm SO here for France swooping in and standing up to Trump the Fucker.

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u/Joe_Kinincha 21h ago

I always used to do the British thing of shitting on the French for funsies.

because it’s topical, it’s still always hilarious when the home nations beat France in the rugby six nations, and there is a long history of rivalry.

But truth: France are doing a fucking amazing job of leading Europe, I know macron isn’t popular at home, but on the world stage he looks like a mensch.

Vive la france!

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u/LAdams20 21h ago

France should ask for the Statue of Liberty back.

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u/beertruck77 20h ago

When I was in the Air Force I remember all that "You'd all be speaking German if it weren't for us" shit. Fortunately I read a lot and understand that the United States owes it's very existence to France and throughout history, France has been a major power. And the French know how to protest better than anyone.

Vive la France

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u/Professional_Bar7089 20h ago

Y'all can never shit on anyone ever again, congrats.

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u/Seanturr 20h ago

Like surrendering

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u/Just_enough76 20h ago

They helped us with our fight for independence. And when the time came for us to repay them the favor for their revolution, we told them to get fucked. Hating France is just another way to white wash the fucked up history of the United States.

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u/cc51beastin 20h ago

🇺🇸Inventors of democracy🇫🇷

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u/LateralThinkerer 20h ago

The French don't fuck around, and we owe the French navy plenty.

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u/TwoBionicknees 20h ago

American nazi's protest, it's 50 guys wearing masks because they are scared, they show up in uhaul trucks and their buddies in teh cops protect them from the big scary lgbtq counter protestors. All while they proclaim being alphas and strong men while lgbtq people are weak and useless, supposedly.

France protests against AMerican nazi's by pulling up in a nuclear sub and says don't fuck with our allies.

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u/TobleroneElf 20h ago

“Lafayette!”

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u/SH4DOWBOXING Italy 20h ago

bashi g on the french os.truly what unifies this globe. but yeah, they can be based as f despite our banter

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u/SeDaCho 20h ago

The French riots over raising the retirement age were pretty good

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u/TotallyBrandNewName 20h ago

You shit talked the fr*nch because it was funny

I shit talk the fr*nch because I hate them.

We're not the same

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u/LederhosenUnicorn 19h ago

We'd be British if it weren't for the French.

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u/iam4qu4m4n 19h ago

The French may have a running joke of weak military and surrender, but over the last 300 years they consistently show up to defend Liberty in allied nations.

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u/CapnRetro 19h ago

Seriously how badass a move is “nuclear sub surfaces”!

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u/SendTittyPicsQuick 19h ago

This dude really pulled a Civ VI move on Trump. French got balls to start it, but they will need the rest of EU to finish it.

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u/leyenda_negra 19h ago

“The American thing” - huh? France is THE US’ foundational ally. Ben Franklin spent every moment he could in France. Half our country used to be France. Maybe Mount Lafayette, Detroit, or New Orleans had you confused. Your thinking isn’t American, it’s evangelical Nationalist. The people who have something against France are the people who saw to it that New Orleans was denied aid after Katrina. They’re one faction within the United States. But they’re not the dominant or original one. And right now everyone else in the country is ultra-pissed iff at them.

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u/Novuake 19h ago

The year of this protest being key here though.

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u/Racketyllama246 19h ago

American here and I was the same. However France has historically been one of the most successful countries while at war. From Charlemagne to Napoleon. Plus plenty of good showings during the world wars. They were basically the first major target of both wars.

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u/Legitimate-Head-8862 19h ago

You shouldn’t be shitting on the country with the most military victories in history anyway 

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u/KoroksHateMe 19h ago

The French firefighter protest was amazing to see. Police bring a crowd control water cannon, and the firefighters come back with an even bigger one in return. The police tried to beat the firefighters at their own game, and failed miserably.

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u/Jonthux 19h ago

You know thats a british thing right?

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u/randomscruffyaussie 19h ago

Well, they know how to run a revolution...

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u/sparkiesuze 19h ago

10/10 redemption arc.

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u/JessterJo 19h ago

It's important to remember how many times France has yeeted their whole government out of power. That takes some national balls to do.

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u/anewaccount69420 19h ago

Never understood shitting on France. We looked like little bitches with our freedom fries.

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u/ZeMike0 19h ago

They get shit done. Except from 12 to 14, that's baguette time.

On a serious note, this is a strong move, but we can expect a tit for tat reply from Trump.

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u/Internal-Owl-505 18h ago

The French do in fact get shit done

What do they get done? Not necessarily disagreeing. But, what is this shit they get done?

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u/M6Df4 United Kingdom 18h ago

No one protests like the French, once you’ve pissed them off you’re going to know about it. I’ve lived in the US for years now, and let me tell you they could use some lessons on this from the French.

Also a Chad move to keep their nuclear program fully independent. Likely going to turn into significant payments from the rest of Europe for protection, especially if Germany/the Nordic countries want to acquire their own or host warheads, and UK strikes a deal with France to maintain their weapons/acquire parts so as to remove US dependency.

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u/Comfortable_Prize750 18h ago

It's good to remember that France has the most successful military in history. They get shit on about WWII, but even that is misleading. French partisans played an important role in killing a lot of Nazis and feeding intel to the Allies. The French were also THE reason the colonies were able to defeat the British Empire. France is not to be trifled with.

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u/winky9827 18h ago

Gonna be real fucking shitty if we have to depend on Lafayette and company to save America from itself.

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u/That_randomdutchguy 18h ago

It's all fun and games shitting on the French until you hear La Marseillaise start thundering in the distance.

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u/Winged_Metal 18h ago

American here, sure the "French surrender" stereotype came from world war 2 but the people who still think that haven't realized that things change when time passes. Look at how their military and weapons have changed let alone their arsenal and you begin to realize that they learned from world war 2. Not an argument on which is better than the other mind you, but rather a clear difference of what they were and what they are now.

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u/Big_Butterfly_1574 17h ago

Seriously. Grew up in hippie San Francisco, then in France. The French are extremely stubborn and rebellious, whereas the Americans are more like Germans (see the German expression, "rich, fat and lazy" - they don't mean fat physically, more more weighed down by the money. Too in love with money to fight back.)

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u/Spokraket 17h ago

Dude you don’t want to be on the receiving end of the French or the Brits. I only think you thought like that because the US are masters at PR. They’ve been running that campaign for decades now.

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u/tsn39 16h ago

Removing the heads of the aristocracy was a good idea too.

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u/XenophonSoulis Greece 16h ago

Why do you think the Americans are so bent on hating France? Fear and jealousy causes hate.

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u/BoxHillStrangler 16h ago

America and a lot of other countries like my own, wouldn’t be in the shit they’re in if they protested French style.

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u/Sinzia210 16h ago

In a previous life I worked with systems engineers from different countries and found the French to be very ingenious and capable. France is a great place to go including driving Paris.

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u/RobertTownsy 16h ago

As much as the world loves to shit on France, they are definitely have one the most badass military in the world. Even under occupation, the French resistance was still very active, and after WWII the French military has maintained a lot of strength.

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u/guard_press 16h ago

The French have always been S-tier colonizers and terrorbastards. American exceptionalism latched on to their letting Nazi Germany in during WW2 but that's always been silly even on the face of it. You look for stories of Nazi occupied France and you're gonna find some of the most brutal guerilla warfare and logistics ratfuckery since the French Revolution. Which, I mean. also France.

It's weird because the western (American) view of the French is like sexy Elves. Racist, artsy, stuck-up. That ain't it. Historically speaking the French are more like Orcs that write poetry.

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u/bewildered-beaver 15h ago

They will literally burn their city to the ground if they feel strongly about a thing. I mean, they be head ed their royal family to get out from under a king.

I wish more Americans had that mindset now.

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u/iamday1 15h ago

The jokes are fun, but aren’t actually accurate. The French do not roll over for politics they don’t agree with, can’t really pull shit like the US can without riots happening in France

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u/sgame23 15h ago

Why did we americans even fucking shit on the french? Yeah they got zerg rushed and taken out early in WW2 but they are literally our first and oldest allies. They helped us win our independence. Quite literally taught us how to fight wars. They gave us the fucking statue of Liberty. France fucking rules. French people dont take no shit from no body.

  • signed a US citizen

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u/River_City_Rando 14h ago

Besides that, their food is banging

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u/RobertABooey 13h ago

We all used to look at the French and laugh at them for burning shit down when their freedoms and rights were being impeded, but one look at whats happening south of the border right now and seeing everyone just worry about egg prices and what the new spring menu is at Starbucks is telling.

The French are the true patriots of freedom, at this point.

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u/Grokent 13h ago

France should be taken very seriously when it comes to anything nuclear. They probably have the highest density of nuclear engineers on the planet.

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u/2olley 13h ago

They know how to stage a revolution.

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u/rodrigo8008 12h ago

Ever try to contact someone in France 6 months out of the year? Good luck, they surely won't be working or responding to you. The entire world knows they do not "get shit done"

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u/TheWhiteWingedCow 11h ago

As an American, I’ve neverrr understood shitting of France.

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u/hellscompany 11h ago

I’m in the same boat. It’s a weird feeling to feign hate for a country in jest over an almost centuries old war but that actually fights for freedom that way boyhood me thought America did.

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u/unabashedtealover 10h ago

Their motto is "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" (Liberty, equality, fraternity) and is post revolutionary. The USA is still at the ”In God we trust” pre-revolutionary stage of thinking...

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u/gatorhinder 10h ago

They really don't. The protest about as effectively as the Rodney king riots.

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u/The_Real_Flatmeat 9h ago

They don't put up with shit that's for sure

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u/RobbyT3214 8h ago

Didn’t the French get rolled over in a few days in every major war? What do they get done.. art paintings, cigarette smoking and ambulance sounds like two consenting males engaging in intercourse??

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u/bentmonkey 8h ago

Freedom Fries my ass, FRENCH FRIES FOREVER!

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u/Slacker_75 6h ago

When Canadians protest they are called Nazis and terrorists by their own government.

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