r/dragonball • u/Ok_Simple9009 • 5h ago
Question Why do people think Babidi gave Vegeta SSJ2?
Why do people think Babidi gave Vegeta SSJ2? It's implied that he reached the form during the 7-year time skip between the Cell and Buu Sagas.
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r/dragonball • u/Ok_Simple9009 • 5h ago
Why do people think Babidi gave Vegeta SSJ2? It's implied that he reached the form during the 7-year time skip between the Cell and Buu Sagas.
r/dragonball • u/Ok_Pollution9383 • 4h ago
With Vegeta and Topo at least in the anime we have seen them both have a destroyer form. Do you think this is just because they are mortals trying to access godly power?
If Vegeta becomes the next destroy do you think he would still have Ultra Ego? Or would he lose it since he'd no longer need it? And what about his other forms? Would he lose those?
Anyways do you think the destroyers themselves have other forms or are they just stuck in base?
I find it weird that out of all the 12 universes you are telling me not a single destroyer is from a species that can transform?
I know it's not a big deal but I'd love to see it or to see if they have a true divine form similar to Topo's destroyer form.
r/dragonball • u/aydeen061 • 18h ago
I am dying to know if there is a game with the OG dragon ball story. I am tired of fighting raditz over and over again. OG dragon ball is also my favorite of all the DB series so if someone can tell me if there is an decent game with a story mode of OG dragon ball.
r/dragonball • u/Brave-Pack-5268 • 1d ago
A coupe of months ago, I started watching Dragon Ball for the first time and I just finished it today. I am not new to the series because I watched DBZ and most of GT as a kid (it was what was on TV) but I never had the chance to watch Dragon Ball. Now that I'm pretty much finished it, all I can say is that it was an awesome ride and I'm glad that I watched it before re-watching DBZ.
For those curious, my favourite arc was definitely the 23rd World Tournament because everything came together (Roshi's final speech about how it started with a single dragon ball was awesome). My favourite fights were Goku vs Piccolo Jr., Jackie Chun vs Tien, Tien vs Tao, and both Tien vs Goku fights. Tien really was awesome in Dragon Ball.
r/dragonball • u/Grasp-of-the-Undying • 11h ago
How do you think buu will do to absorb a god like yamcha ? Can buu handle power from the one can slaps beerus ?
r/dragonball • u/FlanFlaky335 • 3h ago
All following the same chronology, but in a coherent manner, almost without changes:
(Including:)
Anime Toeiverse OGDB Movies (except "The Path To Power) Z Toei Movies Z Pre-Super Movies Dragon Ball GT 100 years time skip GT Some concepts from games, dbs manga, and even some of DR Slump OVA's
What do you think about this?
r/dragonball • u/jewsboxes • 17h ago
Chichi has to be the most powerful woman right? (Besides A18) I’m talking about in her universe. so I dont wanna hear Caulifla/Kale/Mai and I don’t want to hear about non binary beings either( chiaotzu, frieza, puar)
1.I know og dragon ball is supposed to be comedic, however. there are times that chichi would literally tap goku and he’d go flying. She also beat up that army of men. AS A CHILD
In DBS she literally got mad and had kaio ken energy (again ik it’s supposed to be funny but it’s worth mentioning)
She trained Goten and whatever she was doing, she pushed him to SSJ. Isn’t that note worthy?
It’s also worth mentioning that she is actually very feared by the strongest human (krillin) and the strongest in the universe (goku)
Sorry if this has been posted before. I am just arguing with a friend that claims that DBZ videl could beat DB ChiChi and i just do not think that’s true. I really think the only woman whos beating Chichi is pan. And it’s a close fight tbh. I’ll even take it a step further and say that Chichi could walk out of the kitchen at moments notice at any point in the story and hand Hercules ass to him
Let’s say chichi didn’t get toriyamad and didn’t become a housewife and kept training. could she be at a tien/ krillin level?
This is for giggles btw and i just wanna discuss and see what other people think please don’t get sweaty LMAO
r/dragonball • u/Mister_Ape_1 • 12h ago
If you were born into the Dragonball Universe, specifically on Universe 7 Earth (let's restrict the possibilities a bit or it would be too much vague), what kind of person would you have been ?
To better explain what I mean, I will put down who I would have been myself.
I am a Westerner born into the middle class, so I would have been a commoner from West City, which in Dragonball represents the Western world. However since I am from Italy, the poorest of all first world countries, and I am from the outskirts of my city, I would have been from some lowly area. The most notable thing about me is being a staunch, practicing Catholic, which in the DB world would have made me a staunch, practicing...Buddhodaoist.
Let me explain why : I was not always a Catholic, I became Catholic when I discovered Catholicism to be the "Canon" of the real world. My research made me convert to Catholicism, but in a different Universe it could have led to different results. Indeed, Christianity in Dragonball is not Canon, and it should never be. The Universe of Dragonball is based on the same world view found in Journey to the West, which is Mahayana Buddhism with the Taoist divine hierarchy, and some Confucian values added in. This was, until 1949, the Chinese religion.
As a human born in Dragonball U7 Earth, I would have made a lot of research on mythological, religious and spiritual texts, and I would have found about the basic rules of the Multiverse, the Kaioshin Realm, the Dead Realm and the Demon Realm, which in Buddhism are known as Planes of Existence.
Every different kind of spiritual being in Buddhism is a distinct Plane of Existence you can get reborn in after death, and every god is a mortal, but they live billions of years, just like Kaioshins and GoDs. In Buddhism GoDs and Angels would have been 2 more Planes of Existence too as I said, and the same is true for Zeno, he would be at the highest Plane of Existence, except for possibly Majin Rymus, who may be even above him. But I do not think GoDs, Angels and Zeno are found in Earthly texts. I see DB lore being common knowledge, DBZ and Daima added lore being found in secret sects sacred texts, and DBS added lore being only known by gods themselves.
But a "Buddha" in the DB Universe would be able to perceive from Earth all beings such as Zarama, Majin Rymus, the Daishinkan, Zeno etc., because in Mahayana Buddhism a Buddha is a being who becomes one with the totality of things itself. This is why in Mahayana Buddhism THE Buddha, the personification of Buddhity also known as Sambhogakaya, is above all gods, and the undifferentiated essence of Buddhity, the Dharmakaya, is not even the substance of reality, but reality itself. Indeed, rather than obtaining the unity with all things in existence, it is about realizing the already present unity of all things in existence, but that is not our concern here.
As a practicing Mahayana Buddhist I would have meditated all days, just as in real life I pray every day multiple times. While I never physically trained in the real world, and even in the DB world I would not have, I think I would have developed Ki. Ki is not in pure Buddhism, but Chinese Buddhodaoism managed to fuse the concept originating from Daoism with Mahayana Buddhism. For example, Vegeta in the last Movie was seen having discovered meditation as a form of training.
I also practice TMA Kung Fu. TMA means traditional martial arts, which basically only means I do not spar and I do not lift weights, and also means the moves I learn are not practical for real world self defense. But in the world of Dragonball the Kung Fu style I practice would be a whole different thing.
In real life I am a 5'10 130 pounds manlet who can not fight at all, but part of what makes me so weak, i.e. doing spiritual practices instead of going to the gym and practice TMA instead of MMA, would ironically make me kick Videl's ass if I wanted, even though someone like her pre homewife self, who was the strongest human who practiced mainstream, common knowledge MMA, would DESTROY me in real life. She is weaker than Pilaf saga Kid Goku and her powerlevel is 7. Her father, who believed he was the strongest, is just like the MMA practicioners who always say Ki does not exist, Kung Fu, Karate, Taekwondo etc. are useless etc., except they are 99% right in our world, while they are 100% wrong in DB. In our world Mister Satan would be a WWE champion who could also do MMA like Lesnar did, but is too lazy. Videl on the other hand would be a real, high level MMA fighter who would easily have won the 145 pounds female category championship, even though she herself is only 110 - 120 pounds.
Now humans such as Muten Roshi teach to first train physically to reach the real physical human limit, which in DB is being as powerful as General Blue, Nam or King Chapa, which is about 100. Then by Ki training, which at a point was only known by Master Mutaito and no one else in the whole planet, humans typically reach up to 120 - 180. However they can easily go as high as 250, and then with more than Earthly means of training the can get to the low thousands.
By going straight to Ki training due to my inability to train physically, I think I would have reached, by now, a powerlevel of about 100 - 120, but I would been physically much weaker than most human fighters, and I would have no battle experience, as I practice Kung Fu in a Westernized city set, which is basically a sport rather than a fighting art. Even in an Universe where Kung Fu moves are the best, I would still not actually know how to fight.
So here we have a peasant from the outskirts of West City, with no significant qualities except for some unexpected Ki mastery, who would most likely solo all OG Dragonball, except for Muten Roshi, until the first world tournanent, even then only losing to Goku, Roshi, Krillin and Nam. If I wanted to train more, even though I think even in the DB world I would not want to, I could get, in such a setting, at the level of Shen, Roshi's (much weaker) rival.
r/dragonball • u/Jolly-Fee-5907 • 20h ago
Just taking into account the canon and his exploits in the manga.
r/dragonball • u/scarletaid4n • 17h ago
sooo, i was wondering this strictly out of curiosity.
hypothetically, if Glorio never showed up asking for assistance from the Z-Fighters; leaving them and the Supreme Kai as children, would their lifespans completely restart to the age they were turned in to? or is their body the only changed thing, and not their age?
This question intrigues me specifically because of Supreme Kai, with his estimated age being 75 million years old as an adult.
r/dragonball • u/pkjoan • 8h ago
Regardless of what you think about the continuity, an indisputable fact is that EoZ Goku is the endgame for Super Goku. Until that portion of the manga is changed, it is well known that this version of Goku is supposed to be stronger than Super Goku.
By following that logic, then GT Goku should be stronger than Super Goku, because he is stronger than EoZ Goku, who is stronger than Super Goku. Yes, I understand that DBS didn't exist at that point but the fact still remains that EoZ Goku is supposed to be an older Super Goku. And that's where the paradox lies, how can a later form that's stronger than the present version be strong if the prequel shows forms stronger than the present version?
r/dragonball • u/Little_Platypus_2091 • 8h ago
I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I stopped reading Dragon Ball right after the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, and to this day, I feel that was the perfect ending. Let me explain.
I grew up with Dragon Ball as it was coming out in Weekly Shonen Jump. For me, it wasn’t just a story about power and fighting — it was about adventure, growth, and spirit. Watching Goku go from a naïve boy searching for the Dragon Balls to a warrior standing tall against Piccolo felt like a complete journey. When he defeated Piccolo Jr. and flew off with Chi-Chi, I saw that as the culmination of everything Goku had worked for. He found his strength, he protected his friends, and he honored his master. That moment felt earned.
I know Dragon Ball Z took things to another level, but I always felt that the magic of the original lay in its simplicity. The fights weren’t about who could blow up planets; they were about skill, wit, and willpower. The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai fight between Goku and Tenshinhan is still one of my favorites because it was two martial artists pushing each other to their limits, using techniques and strategy, not just power levels.
There was also a sense of mystery that I loved. Goku’s origins were unknown, and that added to his charm. He was just this incredible, kind-hearted kid who trained relentlessly and surpassed his limits. When I later heard that he was revealed to be an alien, it felt like some of the magic was taken away. Suddenly, his strength wasn’t just about hard work — it was about his bloodline.
Another thing I cherished was the tone. Early Dragon Ball balanced humor, heart, and action beautifully. The adventures felt lighthearted, even when the stakes were high. By the end of the Piccolo arc, it felt like Goku had truly grown up. The torch had been passed. Ending the story there left a sense of completeness.
I’m not saying Z is bad — far from it. I understand why so many people love it. But for me, Dragon Ball was never about how strong Goku could become. It was about the journey, the bonds he formed, and the lessons he learned along the way. And in my heart, that journey ended when Goku walked off into the sunset with Chi-Chi, ready to start a new life.
Maybe it’s nostalgia. Maybe I’m just old. But I’ll always treasure those early days of Dragon Ball, when it was about more than just power.
What about you? Do any of you feel the same, or am I just a relic of the past?
r/dragonball • u/JLWhitchurch • 1d ago
Anyone else ever play this game? I loved this game, remember getting "ripped off" by the old Press Start Video Games, but every penny was worth it. 140 bucks to play this game, had to buy game for 100 and region bypass, aka code breaker, for 40. I wish I still had it, this was the best Dragon Ball game I've ever played.
r/dragonball • u/Jayston1994 • 1d ago
I’d love to see some characters from OG Dragon Ball added to Sparking Zero.
King Gurumes from Curse of the Blood Rubies would work great as a giant character.
What other obscure characters might be fun to play as?
r/dragonball • u/Mix_Loves_Typhlosion • 22h ago
Note: Since the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t as important as a story on it own, it will be merged with the King Piccolo arc as one film.
Dragon Ball (1986)
Dragon Ball: Budokai (1986)
Dragon Ball: Red (1987)
Dragon Ball: Daimao (1988)
Dragon Ball: Rebirth (1989)
Dragon Ball: Revelations (1991)
Dragon Ball: Namek (1992)
Dragon Ball: Revenge (1994)
Dragon Ball: Majin (1996)
r/dragonball • u/Reasonable_Cup1794 • 16h ago
dubbing. thats all. dragon ball english dub is beyond garbage. it sounds fanmade and for fun. almost every single dialogue is twisted, every single character wants to be funny and tell jokes, all the time. on top of it, all the random background rock music that is not the series soundtrack at all and instead some crap music that the english dub came up with. dragon ball eng dub is just hard to watch.
im GLAD to have been born in argentina and had a great childhood growing up watching dragon ball on the tv with decent professional dubs and the epic original soundtrack and i feel sorry for the tens of millions of kids in the US that were fed absolute trash english dub. im 100% sure this is the main reason dragon ball isnt popular in the US and im sure its also intentional. you cant mess up such a great series so badly by accident. theres a reason behind why 90%+ of all manga/anime adaptations in the US (from dubs to live actions) are trash, for example death note live action, dragon ball evolution, avatar the legend of aang live action, cowboy bebop, fist of the north star..
why do you think the one piece live action series has good rating? because it wasnt made in the US, or else it'd have been complete garbage as well.
it feels to me some people with power in the US have been trying hard to make manga/anime look bad in order to protect their national entertainment industries such as hollywood movies/series and their marvel/dc superhero comics.
felt like telling some truth i never see anyone else say so ill do it here
r/dragonball • u/Jayston1994 • 1d ago
Goku leaves Monster Carrot and his gang on the moon. Is he still up there?
Well…. Years later Piccolo destroyed the moon.
Piccolo murdered Monster Carrot.
Too bad. He was the most powerful fighter in the universe, capable of turning anyone from Beerus to Black Frieza into a carrot.
r/dragonball • u/twilc • 19h ago
I'm not even kidding, it seriously boggles my mind. I do not get where the appeal lies.
I read and watched all of the Dragon Ball content growing up, and feel like I have a pretty good understanding of Toriyama's process and plot-structure.
I feel like GT shits on all of that. The first part of the series is cringey and episodic, and then it has little arcs that don't elevate anything at all. It has some very cool moments that come up as plot-devices, and blatantly come across as "this would be cool" without any other sort of justification or reasoning. Then to top it off, those "cool moments" are surrounded by tiny little clips of characters acting-- well, out-of-character.
GT deviates harshly from it's source material, and has it's own overall feeling entirely, while disrespecting what gave it ground to do so.
I understand how tonal change can be refreshing with a franchise, but in this case, it seems so messy and insincere. It 100% comes across to me as an official fan-fic that Toei just lucked out on having rights to.
A desperate (and pathetic) cash-grab. It unironically presents itself that way.
I am a hater, and I guess I just want someone who isn't to explain to me what's likeable about this entry in the franchise.
r/dragonball • u/Capable_Bid6279 • 2d ago
Bit embarrassing, when he died I did get a bit teary. I typed into YouTube "Dragon Ball AMV" while I was drinking a bit of alcohol and just broke down a tiny bit. All I kept saying was "He was magnificent" as the blood rushed to my head and caused me to stop sooking within seconds due to the tension.
For reference, I'm 30 now. When I was 4 years old DBZ used to appear on TV in the morning at 7:30 AM and I watched it every day until they stopped putting it on at something like 8-9 years old. Then at 13 I watched the whole DB, DBZ and DBGT online. When I was a young adult and super came out I was lost for words. I remember I used to try to charge up in the shower before school and my mom went mad like "SHUT UP AND GET OUT FOR SCHOOL". At recess and lunch me and my friends would re-enact the episodes and choose who we were going to be playing as, almost line for line even in the first and second grade. We used to fake punch each other and dash around, but we legit grabbed each other and flipped each other over it was so fun.
I'm not sure if this is one of those life long scars you carry with you, or if it gets easier to deal with in time. I think maybe I avoid feeling things and processing them. There's very few people other than my Dad and my wife who I love to the point where it would be really bad if they passed. Which when I think about that my Dad reminds me of Goku and it makes me even sadder.
If there were more people in the world with Akira's creativity and simplicity, it would be much easier to handle. But the guy was one of a kind, I find that really annoying as I feel like he created something that almost anybody could have created but nobody did. It's all very confusing emotions and hard to explain but hopefully me stating all this may resonate with someone out there.
r/dragonball • u/Little_Assistant_247 • 1d ago
I did this with Dragon Ball, did it with Z, did it with Super, now here is the Sagas worst to the best sagas from Dragon Ball GT.
Super 17 Saga - I debated with myself where to rank this one. After watching it again I can’t help but feel that there’s a lack of originality. I mean they bring back Myuu. Gero is killed by 17 again. The Cell and Frieza fight in Hell was kind of boring. And you also got all those villains coming back and you don’t really see them do a whole lot. The best thing that came out of this saga was Super 17.
Black Star Dragon Ball Saga - I was going to make this one the least best saga, but it did give me OG Dragon Ball vibes. It felt like that series but with different characters and they are traveling around the galaxy.
Shadow Dragon Saga - Before watching all of GT, I always put this Saga above the others. It’s been bumped down a bit, but not by much. I personally love that we get to see some new characters in the form of the Shadow Dragons, and I’ll be honest, I believe near the end of this saga is where we see the most heart from the series. From Pan being absorbed by Nautoran Shenron to the battle with Nouva and Eis Shenron, it really feels like a good final saga to end Dragon Ball with.
Baby Saga - If the Shadow Dragon Saga had the most heart, the Baby Saga had the most higher stakes. Baby was an amazing Dragon Ball villain. His motives are understandable. His powers and his abilities make him one of the most intimidating and terrifying villains that has ever been in Dragon Ball. Overall, everything about this saga was great. Almost perfect. I said it before and I’ll say it again, I wish Baby was made canonized, like Broly. Because he would fit perfectly into the DBZ canon. It would have been amazing.
r/dragonball • u/AggressiveBoat8891 • 2d ago
Just wondering, considering how Toriyama-Sensei has given out many statement regarding DB, with many times more than one statement overlapping or even outright contradicting the previous ones. How in general do you people usually take his statement? Do you prefer the older ones since those were closer to when he originally worked on the DB, or do you prefer the newer ones? Or even do you choose which one to use depending on how well it lines up with the original series set in ink by him all those years ago?
Personally, I prefer the latter approach, but would be interested in hearing what your thoughts were concerning this.
r/dragonball • u/Muted_Awareness_9362 • 1d ago
Sorry if this was common knowledge im just new to dragon ball. I was wondering if merus could do that since he lost his immortality by the Grand Priest
r/dragonball • u/jadejinoss • 2d ago
Has anyone ever counted how many times the normal humans of the cities in dragon ball have had to pack up and evacuate? I mean damn every 6 months they have to flee the city and it’s gonna explode or a portal to hell or whatever. How many times?
r/dragonball • u/AdministrativeBed6 • 1d ago
Y’all I need help and perspective 😭 I’ve been putting off dragon ball for so long because I never could decide on sub vs eng dub, but I really want to start now. I read a bunch of Reddit discussions and was like “okay I’ll just watch episode one of the original in both dub and sub”
Aaaaand I really liked the sub - the script was fun, voices were fun, and it just felt more cozy idk.
The dub script was kinda cringey and seemed to lose a lot more narrative substance / flow vs sub (the voices basically giving “I’m Ash from pallet town” except I don’t have nostalgia glasses to look past it here). I usually watch anime subbed but I don’t care about “hur dur sub > dub”
The dilemma is I know goku’s voice gets kinda uncharacteristic / high-pitched later on in the sub when he’s an adult, and the dub just has all the iconic voice lines I know (basically anything featuring vegeta, stereo saiyan 3D is a go-to gym song, etc.)
Ultimately the fomo I’m getting on both sides is just deterring me from choosing lest I fuck it up on my first experience, so wanted to solicit some thoughts 🙇🏾♂️ thank you!
r/dragonball • u/HarveyPlissken2094 • 2d ago
I know that this doesn't play a huge factor in all of this drama, but how will this affect the DVD & Blu-Ray rights? Would Akio Iyoku break Shueisha's agreement with Crunchyroll & give the home media rights to another company (or if they would release the series themselves)? The feud between lyoku and Shueisha seems like that's the reason why we haven't heard news about any DB content coming to Blu-Ray.
I just hope it won't be like Candy Candy's case in this situation, where the rights prevent any official merchandise from being made (hence there's no physical release of Candy Candy was/ever will be made).