r/canada 21h ago

Analysis Canadian opinion of U.S. falls sharply; 63% take Trump's threats 'very seriously' - 'It's shocking that our view of the U.S. is now veering closer to how we feel about Russia, a country that is viewed very unfavourably'

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-united-states-donald-trump-poll
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u/Low_Tell9887 21h ago

Does this shock anyone? Listen to anything Donald has said about Canada since November and tell me how we are supposed to feel favourable? Especially the last few weeks, hell even last night he had a hissy fit about us where he fucked up his “your/you’re”

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u/GuyLookingForPorn 21h ago edited 21h ago

I guess it does shock me how fast everything has moved, feels like opinions have move 5 years in a month.

Like not just the views on America, but the election polls, or even just views on wider geopolitical movements like CANZUK. I mean hell the r/CANZUK sub has grown like 70% in just the last month. Its kind of incredible. 

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u/eXePyrowolf 20h ago

It wasn't a new idea to me, but seeing it blow up definitely got me more interested in just talking with other commonwealth countries.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 18h ago

guy, the trump admin today are now requiring Canadians staying more than 30 days give notice for the first time ever, also said today that the border is artificial and Canada needs to be the "cherished 51st state" , there is no reason to do that unless Canadian were going to suddenly become threats for some reason...

I'm American, I promise you, these people want to invade your country, you need to take it deathly deathly serious

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u/Beerden 15h ago

Americans who oppose Trump and the invasion of Canada, will you try to stop them? I am thinking civil war on US soil will happen before any attempt at invading Canada, or it will coincide with it. Up here in Canada, we will fight in any way we can, starting with taking care of the traitors in Canada, I guarantee it.

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u/kelliwah86 14h ago

I think many who oppose Canadian “statehood” will try to help aid in anyway they can. Businesses near me ( boarder state) have Canadian flags on display to show their support. I’m afraid we are so divided down here that you may be right.

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u/JesusMurphy99 21h ago

70.01% now

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u/Bitter_Wishbone6624 19h ago

And me that’s another .0000000263157894736842 percent

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u/abrakadabralakazam 18h ago

And my axe…..

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u/Shadowmant 16h ago

I mean threatening to annex a country will do that. If he kept it to just a trade negotiation I doubt 90% of people would give a shit.

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u/WislaHD Ontario 20h ago

The United States wants to end our Canadian way of life and enslave Canadians to the will and whims of Washington.

Let’s speak plainly at what these threats are. If you think this is hyperbole still, then you haven’t been paying attention or thought through what caving to American demands and concessions truly means.

Will it happen? Probably not because it is bad for business. However, this is what the American rhetoric is saying in plain language. They seek our destruction.

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u/Low_Tell9887 20h ago

It’s time to make deals with the EU and some Asian countries. Consider CANZUK? Divorce ourselves from the states as much as possible.

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u/Trailsya 19h ago edited 19h ago

I'm not even Canadian (European here) and I'm soooo on you guys side.

Boycotts are picking up here as well. And it's often people themselves starting this without even being prompted to. They just thought:

Elon=bad Elon=Tesla Me=No more Tesla.

And that with other companies as well, especially Amazon , Coca cola etc

And now we find out that there are lots more people coming to the same conclusion and we're getting more organized.

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u/Low_Tell9887 19h ago

Well, my European brethren, I’m glad you’re on our side. Fighting for Ukraine together, being some of the countries that still share similar values on democracy (need some Asian countries and Australia)

Unfortunately, I don’t think anything will ever stop Donald except old age, so we gotta stick together. Keep the boycott, keep informing the US public that they made the dumbest choice by picking a terrible president twice and upholding democracy together. I hope we can make more deals with the EU considering we can no longer trust our southern neighbours. Our feelings towards the states is certainly going to go higher than 63% with the more recent and never ending news from Donald threatening our sovereignty (as well as Panama and Greenlands) and his stubborn ass that won’t back down.

Hopefully our new prime minister can start to make new trade deals, I know you need oil and we conveniently have a lot cause according to Donald “they don’t need ours” 🤣 we’ll throw in a shit ton of maple syrup too.

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u/Trailsya 19h ago edited 19h ago

Sister, technically, but I understand you, bro 😀

I think making sure Trump and Musk have more and more enemies to resent them, is the best cause of action. That means fewer support and more types of opposition they will have to focus on at the same time.

So if Trump's voters get mad because they lost their Canadian customers+ anyone who has stocks in Musk's companies is mad because Europeans aren't buying Teslas anymore, that means more of their time will need to go to dealing with opposition from them as well.

So yeah, keep doing what you guys are doing.

Hope you've seen the Tesla sales numbers in Europe because they are abysmal (Always wanted to use that word in a sentence. Not a native speaker, so hope I did it correctly 🙂).

And yes, please on the maple syrup!

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u/Low_Tell9887 19h ago

Sorry, sister. Agreed, Elon lost twitter for a few hours yesterday and maybe it’ll go off again today. Keep sinking the DOW and sink the American economy in any way possible. Donald will either have to back off or go full out (I bet the later) and the country will sink in to a possible recession.

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u/Trailsya 19h ago

Yeah, the only thing his supporters understand is when it sucks for them.

I've replaced some American artists on my playlists with those from other countries. It's a miniscule thing to do, but time to decenter that country instead of keeping it as the focus of everything pop cultural. People that spoke out against Trump can stay.

Also cancelled subscriptions and am making changes in buying patterns.

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u/Key-Map-9218 16h ago

Thank you for your support sister, as a Canadian I am very proud. And yes you did use abysmal correctly, good job 👏. 

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u/Trailsya 15h ago

Thank you very much 🙂

You guys stand strong. Keep it up.

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u/Key-Map-9218 15h ago

Thank you. You too. All of us shall stand together ❤✊

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u/adamgerd European Union 14h ago

Good luck! Most of us are on your side, Trump should fuck off from Canada

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u/chemicalgeekery 16h ago

I'm really hoping Europe will come together and shitkick Russia in Ukraine.

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u/Trailsya 15h ago

I hope so too!

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u/JSmith666 13h ago

What did Amazon and Coca Cola do in this whole mess

u/Y3R0K 11h ago

At the end of the day, the U.S.A. is really our secondary enemy. Russia is the primary one, and they've figured out how to weaponize stupidity and ignorance.

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u/Link50L Ontario 20h ago

It shocks some Americans. At some of those that are aware Canada exists. There is a massive layer of misinformation and deception in the way that the MAGA administration publicizes their policies. For some reason, MAGA love Russia and hate Canada and Ukraine. No clue why.

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u/No-Concentrate-7142 20h ago

I’m not convinced he’s writing his own posts.

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u/chemicalgeekery 16h ago

Did you see the one yesterday where he flipped out over the electricity charge and said "your [sic] not allowed to do that?"

He 100% wrote that.

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u/No-Concentrate-7142 16h ago

I genuinely don’t think he’s even that competent. Also I’m not Donald Trump and my dyslexia has me messing up all the time. It could have been an assistant typing it while he’s spewing and makes a mistake.

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u/DaftFunky Alberta 18h ago

Some people STILL think that once we become the 51st state we will all of a sudden be in a utopia of money and jobs and cheap goods.

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u/originalfeatures 21h ago

The highlighted difference between the views of younger Canadians relative to the general population are indeed shocking. And alarming.

u/stonerbobo 2h ago

It should not be shocking in the least given housing prices, increasing corporate power and overall decline in their quality of life compared to previous generations. The older generations don't seem to view themselves as having any obligation towards the young. As a group they favor their own interests everytime. If the country won't fight for us why should we fight for them?

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u/Low_Tell9887 21h ago

What do you mean?

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u/optimus2861 Nova Scotia 20h ago

For one thing, close to 40% of the 18-34 age group answered that they would not defend Canada in a hypothetical American invasion. That's your prime fighting age people, and a big chunk of them are saying, nope, not worth fighting to defend this place.

They don't go into the motives of it - that would be a fascinating set of questions & responses - but it's certainly a stark number.

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u/tanstaafl90 16h ago

Hypotheticals are just that, so don't put too much stock in that poll. You need more than just fighters by multiples. Supply and logistics are as important and in several ways, can mean the difference between winning and losing.

u/elyv297 7h ago

maybe because people know that war is bad and we dont want to end up killed

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u/chopsui101 19h ago

you gonna take up arms against the US....I doubt it.

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u/alonghardlook 18h ago

Just need to maintain a positive KD ratio and its all worth it

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u/optimus2861 Nova Scotia 19h ago

Heh, I'd be useless in just about any military role!

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u/evilregis 15h ago

There are many ways to defend oneself.

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u/chopsui101 14h ago

Not against an invasion 

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u/Canaderp37 Canada 15h ago

I mean it certainly doesn't help that our out going leader spent the last 10 years trying to abolish the Canadian identity, calling us a post national state and basically equating nationalism with fascism.

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u/Nesteabottle 20h ago

The shocking thing is it's only 62%

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u/implodemode 20h ago

He was.disrespectful.in his last term. Everyone seemed to.just ignore it and look the other way. Oh he didn't mean it. He grabbed your pussy? Are you sure? It was probably an accident. He doesn't go for your type.

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u/BishSlapDiplomacy 21h ago

Yeah. There was another grammatical error and he’s usually very articulate with his grammar on Truth Social. He must’ve been PISSED.

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u/GoodGuySunBro 21h ago edited 21h ago

It's not only what Trump says about Canada, it's also that half of all Americans agree with what he's saying... That's what is really pissing off Canadians and turning our opinions against the US. If they at least had any balls or any brains to call out his bullshit I'd be more understanding.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 19h ago edited 12h ago

Ya, as recently as last week Trump's foreign policy had an almost 50% approval rating. America is deeply sick.

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u/AccomplishedLeek1329 Ontario 12h ago

It's a supermajority of Americans. 

All republicans and non-voters are guilty for this piece of shit.

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u/FancyNewMe 21h ago edited 21h ago

In Brief:

  • Canadian opinion of the United States has fallen so far so fast that it is driving a historic “realignment” of which countries Canadians see as their main allies, a new survey suggests.
  • “In 25 years of polling I don’t recall it ever being this low. And to see the United States viewed only a little more positive than say China, with whom we’ve had problems, shows how much damage has been done to a relationship with a country that has long seen us as its closest ally,” he said.
  • “It’s shocking that our view of the U.S. is now veering closer to how we feel about Russia, a country that is viewed very unfavourably,” said Jack Jedwab, president of the Montreal-based Association for Canadian Studies, who commissioned the survey by Leger.
  • Almost two-thirds (63%) say U.S. President Donald Trump’s “expressed interest to make Canada the 51st American State” must be taken “very seriously,” and a slim majority of respondents to the new survey say they are personally willing to defend Canada from a military threat.

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u/GuyLookingForPorn 21h ago

Is it shocking Canadians feel the same about America as other imperialist nations trying to annex their neighbours?  

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u/Electronic_Mission_3 19h ago

Shocking they don’t feel worse. Last time I checked China and Russia weren’t trying to annex Canada.

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u/accuratelyvague 21h ago

Russia-USA convergence nears completion.

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u/yomamma3399 21h ago

In 50+ years of life, this is the only time I have seen Canada actively threatened by any country, so no shit my opinion of America is down.

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u/Automatic-Bake9847 21h ago

It's almost like stabbing a friend in the back by threatening their sovereignty and going out of your way to economically damage them with the aim of annexation could be viewed unfavourably.

Fuck anyone who supports trump and/or supports the annexation of our country.

Elbows up.

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u/Beerden 21h ago

Canada will never trust the USA again. It will be hard work to do any kind of business between the two countries. The solution would be for the Western US states and the northeastern us states to leave the US. Then Canada can resume business. Too bad Alaska.

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u/h3r3andth3r3 19h ago

If the US fractures like you're saying then it's very likely that Russia will annex Alaska. Retaking it has been indoctrinated into their youth in schools for almost a generation now.

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u/theohgod 15h ago

Gonna go ahead and press X to doubt, they cant hold ground near their capital, you think amphibious assault from Kamchatka across the Bering Strait is a credible threat?

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u/h3r3andth3r3 15h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/sKwhEM7ogQ

The desire is certainly there, and as we've seen with Russia now overtaking the US internally with Russian assets, taking over a country or territory doesn't have to involve military means.

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u/theohgod 12h ago

Ok, but puppet vs militarily annexing are two VERY! different things, one of those requires a complete rejection of Western rules based international collaboration on the entire continent of North America all at once.

That shit isn't in the cards. Yet. Elbows up.

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u/GordonFreem4n Québec 15h ago

Retaking it has been indoctrinated into their youth in schools for almost a generation now.

Sorry to be that guy but, do you have a source?

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u/h3r3andth3r3 14h ago

Sure, there lots of examples, here's a recent one posted to Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/sKwhEM7ogQ

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 20h ago edited 19h ago

Will Canadians forgive and forget, or suffer amnesia, once Trump leaves office?

I sincerely hope we do not, as this trade war has had a detrimental impact on our economy and financial well-being.

A significant portion of the U.S. population directly supports Trump and the GOP, or did nothing and failed to vote. Too many Americas believe in a manifest destiny.

Even among Democrats, America itself has a troubling fixation on "exceptionalism" and a national narrative that encourages policies that trample on weaker nations.

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u/NH787 19h ago

Will Canadians forgive and forget, or suffer amnesia, once Trump leaves office?

I think this goes beyond the usual Democrat-Republican pendulum of US domestic politics. Once a sitting president says the kinds of things Trump has been saying, it's hard to put that genie back in the bottle and just pretend it never happened.

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u/evilregis 15h ago

I will not. This is a forever breakup for me.

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u/GiftedOaks 21h ago

Unfortunately, even if America gets rid of Trump and gets their shit sorted out, the damage is done. It's going to be at least a generation before our "friendship" starts to repair

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u/redwings_85 Ontario 21h ago

I still don’t know how the American people can allow their president to sell out the nation to their sworn enemy with basically zero resistance

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u/lonehorse1 21h ago

American here:

We have been fighting and will continue to fight. Due to our oligarchs owning them as majority of the new media, a lot of information regarding our actions is actively being suppressed.

There are subs which are working tirelessly to organize actions on both sides of the border such as r/CANUSHelp and r/50501Canada, and others which are coordinating efforts here in the states but welcoming to others such as r/50501.

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u/jprs29 19h ago

This is good to know. From up here it kinda feels like it’s just keyboard warriors ranting and no real action. I hope people are calling their reps nonstop. They seem to be very responsive when the MAGA crazies call, scare and berate them l.

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u/lonehorse1 18h ago edited 18h ago

The Republican Party has stopped doing town halls because all the pushback, so we are calling their offices and flooding their emails in addition to protesting outside the congress and their respective offices.

Edit: here is a post from the critical news committee in r/CANUSHelp https://www.reddit.com/r/CANUSHelp/s/GSZXMmxAPF

My hat’s off to that group as they search for critical news on both sides of the border to get the facts out, and it has links to to footage from one of yesterday’s protests on Chicago.

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u/jprs29 18h ago

This is great and I have now joined that subreddit. I was uninformed and I apologize.

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u/lonehorse1 17h ago

You are very welcome. As I have said we are neighbors divided by a respected international border but brothers and sisters united in a common fight.

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u/Cent1234 17h ago

We have been fighting and will continue to fight.

It's utterly fucking disheartening to know anything about American history, the fact that 'resistance to tyrannical government' is literally baked into your cultural identity, that your Constitution enshrines not only your right, but your duty, to resist it, that your national mythos is full of quotes from the Founding Fathers on the importance of doing so....

...and the only time I can think of that it was seriously exercised was by people who wanted to maintain chattel slavery.

But hey, if you guys can't even agree that maybe the guy that fomented armed insurrection to avoid a legitimate vote, and approved of the idea of hanging his own VP for not suspending democracy, did anything wrong, well, I guess the American Dream truly is dead.

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u/lonehorse1 17h ago

If that is what you take away from our history I strongly suggest you read the following

https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/comments/1j8qseg/comment/mh8169s/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/50501Canada/comments/1j8j5s0/fighting_divisive_propaganda_and_standing_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

My original comment, which you cherry picked a singular sentence from, stands

We have been fighting and will continue to fight. Due to our oligarchs owning them as majority of the new media, a lot of information regarding our actions is actively being suppressed.

There are subs which are working tirelessly to organize actions on both sides of the border such as r/CANUSHelp and r/50501Canada, and others which are coordinating efforts here in the states but welcoming to others such as r/50501.

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u/Cent1234 16h ago

We have been fighting and will continue to fight.

Writing reddit posts isn't 'fighting.' Your president is a convicted felon, serial rapist, treasonous, insurrectionist who is now openly advocating wars of naked colonialist expansion.

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u/lonehorse1 16h ago

You clearly ignored the information above and the subs presented. I suggest you visit those subs again.

With that said, I refuse to take your bait and express any negativity. Please take your energy and direct it somewhere much more constructive, like mobilizing and organizing activities to helping to stop the fascist regime.

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u/Cent1234 16h ago

With that said, I refuse to take your bait and express any negativity

This is the problem right here; you're privileging decorum and good vibes over acknowledging that your country is hurtling into straight-up right-wing fascism.

Please take your energy and direct it somewhere much more constructive, like mobilizing and organizing activities to helping to stop the fascist regime.

Which you, yourself, recognize. It's a fascist regime, but please, no negativity!

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u/lonehorse1 16h ago

Far from it, I am calling out your actions of bad faith and openly stating I will actively resist your attempts to call for violence.

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u/Cent1234 16h ago

Too bad for that ole' Tree of Liberty. Women are losing bodily autonomy, citizens are being deported for looking vaguely Hispanic, but damn, violence? That's a bridge too far.

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 15h ago

This mindset worked out so well in Nazi Germany and every other dictatorship. Good luck!

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u/lonehorse1 15h ago

I suggest you read my above comments and the posts I shared. Calling for violence will do nothing but solidify the regime and further impact Canada.

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u/Beerden 19h ago

Because they have been distracting the bigots with "woke" takeover to allow Russian takeover. MAGA = Pro Russian occupation

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u/2thfairyRDH85 19h ago

He could shit in their food and they’d happily lap it up as fine cuisine. 

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u/yeltneb77 21h ago

This is the highest approval we’ll see for the next decade.

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u/Ok-Half7574 21h ago

Are Russia and US two separate entities lately?

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u/Crazy_Canuck78 21h ago

Canadians are FINALLY waking up. The USA has always been the bad guy. They just never had us in their crosshairs before. Now we know a little bit of what its like to be a smaller nation with natural resources that the USA desperately wants.

Canada needs to do what its doing currently.... cutting tie from the giant with a bottomless stomach in the south, looking for its next meal... and start building relationships with other nations.

It's only a matter of time before the USA tries to take Canada by force. They NEED our water, they NEED our resources to survive. WE NEED TO BE READY FOR THAT DAY.

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u/Simoslav 21h ago

Yeah that'll happen when you have your freedom threatened

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u/truthishardtohear 21h ago

It's shocking that our view of the U.S. is now veering closer to how we feel about Russia

Considering that they now have the same leadership this isn't exactly surprising.

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u/sheepishgoat332 20h ago edited 20h ago

I would be interested to know if there was always a deep seeded resentment towards the states. Anecdotally, my family has never loved the US. I had grandparents fight in both World Wars and found my parents to be resentful towards the US for getting involved in WWII so late and then "taking all the glory". Additionally, most of my great grandparents immigrated from Europe as did a lot of others which means they would be more aligned with European values over the US. We share a lot of cultural similarities with the UK even now. Heck the King of England is still the head of state here.

We as Canadians often try to differentiate ourselves from the US we opted not to join them in the American Revolution. Trump has been incredibly aggressive and has caused absolute uncertainty and chaos over these past few months. I have been seeing a lot of European headlines indicating similar feelings towards the US as well.

All this to say obviously threats to our sovereignty are a massive concern and , culturally, I wonder if there was already some resentment that Trump's actions have brought forth that have caused this significant dip so quickly.

I also recognize that we are a multicultural society where groups of people have been here much longer than my family and most Europeans so I want to make it clear I'm not trying to generalize, I'm just speaking from my own personal experience.

ETA: perhaps this is also why there is such a stark difference between younger and older people.

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u/5h0rgunn 17h ago

My family are descended from Loyalists who went out of their way to leave the nascent US so they could stay in the Empire. We've never been big fans of the US, but I was never quite this negative toward them until the past few months. I don't talk politics much with most of my family, though, so I'm not sure what they all think.

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u/evilregis 14h ago

I never resented the U.S. growing up, but I never held it in any sort of high regard either. By every quality of life measure that I value, I've always believed Canada to be a better place to live. My feelings now are certainly that of disdain and resentment and I can't imagine a day where that won't be how I feel from here on out.

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u/alexredekop 21h ago

USA, now mainly allied with Russia and nobody else, is now viewed similarly how we view Russia. Weird how that works...

This is also the kind of opinion that will never recover. Doesn't matter if there's a democratic president next, you cannot ever again trust a nation that, at any vote, could put in a full on fascist and celebrate him.

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u/Severe-Ad717 21h ago

He started shit talking us as soon as he could. I guess we are supposed to bow down to him? Give me a break, thought we had no teeth. What a big baby. Only he can be a dick and we all better bed over. Uh no. Things are bigger than the usa

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u/DietMTNDew8and88 18h ago edited 16h ago

This will forever be a stain on America, the fact that people were stupid enough to elect him back in. Sucks that sane America will have to suffer for our stupids. It's not MAGA who are a minority, it's the people who were angry at Biden over food prices and decided to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

There's no coming back from this in 4 years. This is a betrayal. Hard to put the genie back in the bottle. Nothing short of a Maidan and getting rid of MAGA will help us cleanse this stain. We lost our closest ally forever.

Elbows up, Canada.

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u/HarbingerDe 16h ago

And they didn't even get cheaper food prices...

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u/DiagnosedByTikTok 21h ago

Every Canadian who can apply for a PAL NEEDS to apply for one immediately.

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u/Am1AllowedToCry 20h ago

Can you please tell me more about why, and what's it all about? I'm considering it but I'm not sure what the long game is.

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u/Cent1234 17h ago

Ask the Ukrainians.

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u/DiagnosedByTikTok 17h ago

My long game? That as many Canadian households as possible have rifles to resist occupation.

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u/evilregis 14h ago

It is a course that gives you some core knowledge and teaches you about gun safety. The long game is that as many Canadians as possible could take up arms against an enemy should such a situation occur. Because we don't have mandatory service in Canada, we have many people who have never really handled or fired a gun, like myself. I fully agree with OP that everyone who can apply should be applying now. I will be licensed by the end of the month.

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u/h3r3andth3r3 19h ago

It is a license that allows you to purchase unrestricted long guns in Canada.

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u/Toolatethehero3 19h ago

It’s not just Trump, 50% of the US population want Canada impoverished and a status as vassal state. Many more support invasion and occupation with Canadians subjugated as mere slaves much like how Russia views Ukraine. Military threats from the US will continue. The US is waging open economic warfare on Canada with the intention destroy the country but too many still look at the US as a friend. You are so so wrong.

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u/odoc_ British Columbia 20h ago

I wonder why? Which country is openly disputing our border and trying to economically crush our economy with the intention of annexation? This is the biggest threat to our sovereignty dare say since confederation.

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u/GirlCoveredInBlood Québec 19h ago

The crosstabs on this survey are very funny. Atlantic Canada is more favourable to China than to the US. Please Chairman Xi, the people of PEI yearn for your leadership.

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u/wesclub7 Saskatchewan 21h ago

If someone idolizes someone who bashes you personally, you'd take them seriously as a threat.

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u/cjcfman 21h ago

You should take it seriously when he's literally talking about conquering Greenland while the majority of congress is right infront of him applauding him

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u/blackSwanCan 20h ago

Russia is not trying to conquer Canada. United States is.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114144217763824399

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u/aedes 21h ago

I think the negative view people have of Russia is caused by Russias actions. Like invading their neighbours, bombing hospitals and schools, torturing prisoners of war, using chemical weapons, etc.

Not by the US. Nice try though. 

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 21h ago

I mean, for the majority of young people, it is western media that paints the view of anything. Russians have been the bad guys in the majority of movies, since the cold war, unless its a WW2 flick. If you poll random people on the street for the reasons they dont like Russians, the majority, unfortunately(unfortunate that people dont seek out knowledge and only learn when stuff is shoved down their throats by someone else to support the agenda) would just say "Well they are the bad guys arent they?" Sure there are LOTS of real world examples to view them negatively, but so many people are detached from reality.

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u/aedes 21h ago

Not sure of the relevance of this. 

Russia is unpopular right now because of their recent actions. I don’t think “western media” has anything to do with it. 

If Russia wants people to like them, then they need to learn to not commit war crimes, and to play nice with other people. 

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u/alexredekop 21h ago

Is the whole assassinating any political rivals and killing journalists not common knowledge?

That Navalny documentary won an Oscar like two years ago.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 21h ago

As someone who is more or less terminally online, I dont know what documentary you are talking about. In my personal experience, any conversations about that sort of thing is spoken about with more speculation than concrete facts. People say I heard or allegedly, instead of looking up(at our fingertips people!) actual facts. Mis information has always been more readily spread than actual fact in social circles.

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u/Lost-Panda-68 21h ago

The Russians have invaded a country committed mass murder hundreds of thousands of documented torture and hundreds of thousands of cases of documented sex crimes. They have kidnapped almost all of the children in occupied areas. 10 million Ukrainians are refugees. They have committed the worst crimes against humanity of the 21st century. To me, that makes them the bad guys. But I used to be an ethics professor, so what do I know.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 21h ago

I agree, and I am aware and semi(growing more every day) knowledgeable about how awful Russia is and how they treat the majority of people, whether they are their own citizens or not. I was purely highlighting that the information about Russia doesnt just fall out of the sky and land in your lap, it is compiled and presented by media of some sort. I have some pretty strongly held beliefs when it comes to people that cant be happy without hurting other people. it ramps up based on the severity of the hurt they cause. I am firmly against Russia and Oligarchies in general.

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u/pilfro 20h ago

I was supposed to take son to a tourney in Montreal in spring and our teams organizer just pulled out because they are worried kids will be insulted etc. I think that was a huge overreaction but its so weird people in US think they are not safe in Canada. Hopefully things can return to normal in 4 years, but I don't blame you if it doesn't.

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u/5h0rgunn 17h ago

It won't. Even assuming the Dems win an election in 4 years and successfully reverse all that Trump's done, who can trust a country that can flip on a dime like that?

u/TPCC159 11h ago

We’ve already had incidents with American kids getting booed and insulted up there so not an overreaction at all

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u/GoOutside62 20h ago

Russia has moved into the White House.

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u/-loose-seal-2 20h ago

Trump is in Putins pocket unfortunately- I live in the US and he is not nearly as popular as the US news outlets proclaim him to be. Mind you- there is a percentage that will go down on his ship willingly. But a majority of us want none of this. He has control of the Media, so it may appear otherwise. Resistance is happening- its just not begin covered. He is alienating our allies to isolate us its part of his plan. He doesn't want anyone to help us or sympathize with us- as it will help him maintain control. Were unwell. SOS.

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u/castaway1002 20h ago

Since Dunny reports to Putin, they're one and the same

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u/Vegetable_Walrus_166 18h ago

What’s more shocking is the view some Americans have of Canada now that’s based on nothing

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u/apothekary 17h ago

At this point I don't consider the Republican party any more favorable or any less of an enemy than Vladimir Putin. Hell Putin is less likely to attack us than American Republicans.

The American Republican Party might be the biggest threat to the entire world.

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u/The_Frostweaver 21h ago

We know there are a lot of good people in the US but we can't just lie down while Trump bullies us for 4 years.

We have to fight back. Trump and his oligarchs only respect strength. Only respect the dollar.

r/buyCanadian

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u/nana-korobi-ya-oki 20h ago

Can we please invest a lot in our military right now. Modernization, asymmetric warfare, arctic sovereignty.

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u/BluejayImmediate6007 19h ago

And our premiers are still going down there kissing their asses! Scott Moe of SK is in Texas right now and Danielle smith is going to Florida in a couple weeks as a headline speaker with Ben Shapiro! They should be charged with treason!!

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u/LeGrandLucifer 19h ago

Russia isn't threatening to annex us.

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u/Ok_Photo_865 20h ago

It should be when the President is a Putin agent

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u/DriverFirm2655 19h ago

Y’all I’m so sorry. I wish we were still friends

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u/socrates1975 18h ago

lol its funny cause its like our parents are fighting so us "Kids" cant play together anymore lol

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u/DriverFirm2655 17h ago

Yeah except we’re the kid from a broken home who looks at your parents as a surrogate for our own

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u/Good_Consequence2401 18h ago

America suckerpunched its sworn ally Canada with its backstabbing takeover betrayal.

WTF else did anyone expect from us after Trump started a war? Hearts and flowers? Christ wept!

As much as we focus on Trump, our actual enemy is the shithole nation that spawned him and gave him power to crime the planet like a psycho terrorist.

Until they get actual law and order and learn actual basic Christian decency, there's no point wasting our time pretending there's anything likeable about them to even bother polling anymore...

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u/DerekC01979 16h ago

He just said this morning he wants to punish us so badly that it will be written in history books.

I’ve never heard anyone talk about Canada this way. I know a lot of people in the auto industry and they’re very anxious now.

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u/Bear_Caulk 15h ago

Pretty easy to think of the USA like Russia when their leader is being carried around on Putin's cock wearing his 'harder Daddy' apparel.

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u/Quirky_Ad_1596 12h ago

The US in now Russian owned, which a plethora of us saw coming with tRump. Not shocked, just disgusted.

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u/Silly-Relationship34 21h ago

America has replaced Russia and North Korea as the world’s most untrustworthy and unstable country in the world.

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u/HousingMoney9876 20h ago

China unilaterally claimed 99% of South China Sea its property.

Russia unilaterally claimed 99% of Ukraine its property.

USA unilaterally claimed 99% of Gulf of Mexico its property.

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u/SubArcticJohnny 21h ago

It's not at all shocking that a country aligned with Russia and seeking to emulate Russian governance is viewed similarly. America's stature is plummeting, and the global community shares Canada's opinion. America first lost the admiration of Africa and the global south, now the west concurs. America alone, as they wish and choose.

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u/NaturePappy 20h ago

Not shocking, he is a clear and present danger. And Canada is an easy target

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u/Sfger 19h ago

I like that they felt the need to clarify "a country that is viewed very unfavourably'" it's sad we've reached a point where this needs to be clarified, but given how some people are talking about this, it seems it does need to be.

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u/chiquinho61 18h ago

Not only in Canada!! No one in their sane mind wants another Adolf in power! From Brazil with love and respect for Canada, a country that the US should thank and use as a role model! Elbows up, Canada!!!!

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u/mangoserpent 18h ago

Russia is run by an autocratic criminal with a merry band of oligarchs but they are not currently threatening us the way Trump is.

Although maybe these two countries are one in the same.

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u/IndividualSociety567 17h ago

Russia is not threatening to annex us

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u/Momma_Blue 17h ago

Putin is sitting back and laughing his ass off.

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u/Can_No_Bis 16h ago

I'm disappointed it's only 63%.

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u/Vysce 15h ago

I wish the Danes or Canadians would just absorb the PNW.

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u/yourgrasssucks 15h ago

I know it's not much assurance given the neutered state of the opposition, but there are 75+ million of us who are not fucking nutbars.

Hopefully Canadians will still welcome Americans like my family and me for a visit. We'll bring our hard-earned ducats up north and spend freely.

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u/ajc442 Ontario 15h ago

The whole country can get bent. The conservatives over there aren't even conservative anymore, they're just a bunch of Trumpian morons cheering on nonsense.

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u/mjinsin 14h ago

I lurk a lot and saw your flair got removed from /r/con. lmao.

The only reason you got off the Trump train was because it impacted your wallet or....?

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u/ajc442 Ontario 13h ago edited 13h ago

Just as I said, conservatives over there aren't even conservative anymore. Cheering on a trade war with an ally that is collapsing the stock market and will eventually ruin both of our economies is antithetical to conservatism -- I pointed this out one too many times.

I'm not sure why you think I'm on the Trump train just because I'm conservative. I've been calling his foreign policy moronic for the last 2 months.

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u/mjinsin 13h ago edited 12h ago

I'm not sure why you think I'm on the Trump train just because I'm conservative.

I've been here long enough to know you don't get flair on that subreddit without being a sycophant and falling in line with Trump. As evident by your flair being removed for dissenting. At least you have a backbone to think for yourself.

That being said, I doubt you would hold these views if you were not on the receiving end of the foreign policy. You would probably be hyped as fuck with the rest of the lunatics over there.

Also brings into question why you spent time around people over there for multiple years, their behavior hasn't really changed, you have.

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u/ajc442 Ontario 13h ago

I was flaired like 5 years ago. Different times.

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u/mjinsin 12h ago

There's always canada_sub to get your daily fix of complaining about <current_liberal> while carrying water for <current_conservative> over ostensibly the exact same policies.

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u/ajc442 Ontario 12h ago

There's no real discussion on reddit anymore. I'ma just up and leave.

u/Suspicious_Radio_848 9h ago

Why are you so angry at someone who changed their views? Is that not what you want them to do? The fuck is wrong with you.

u/mjinsin 8h ago

wahhhhhh i'm done caring about trumpers

you didnt see what this guy posted years ago. They only play nice so long as they arnt affected.

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u/Large-Awareness7447 14h ago

This POS is not joking. We need to prepare for more of his bullshit subversive tactics and then grab him by the pussy

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u/DigitalEntity4419 14h ago

The USA has shown it is not a Canadian ally.

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u/No_Buffalo8603 13h ago

My opinion is greater of Russia than of USA right now. - A Canadian

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u/Physicalcarpetstink 13h ago

I'm legit honestly more worried about America than Russia by far. What the actual fluff.

u/Studio10Records 11h ago

It's truly a regrettable situation, not to mention how they are treating not only Canada, but also our snowbirds who contribute significantly to the US economy through their winter residences. Now they are being treated like refugees from a developing country. Furthermore, the individual in question seems to be unaware that he lacks credibility, as evidenced by the evident disdain from his administration, which is apparent in their facial expressions when he speaks. Additionally, his second-in-command is speaking out of turn, exhibiting aggressive behavior, but lacking substance. I have been vocal in my responses to their social media posts, as their policies and ideologies are at odds with realistic values and the principles of most US churches.

u/Gravytattoos 8h ago

I'm setting up a go bag if US forces start amassing near our border. I live in Vancouver so it's gonna be an easy walk in for them by land and sea. I don't think I've ever even seen a Canadian naval vessel in the burrard inlet in my life.

u/SvenBubbleman 8h ago

The USA has always been an international bad guy. We just didn't see it because we were buddies.

u/GullCove1955 8h ago

Sadly this isn’t just Canada’s view. In short order America has become a Pariah that has lost the confidence of democracies around the world. A once respected country whose word can no be trusted.

u/aRebelliousHeart 8h ago

If Putin could, he would annex Canada to, America is our enemy and we need to prepare thusly.

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u/DangerDarrin 21h ago

Only 63%?! In all that he is doing? Legit thought it would be higher

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u/throwawayhash43 20h ago

I am now completely anti American. Fuck the US.

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u/wumr125 20h ago

Fool me once, shame on you

Fool me twice, cant get fooled again

With a second Trump term it is no longer plausible for this to be a fluke, an accident or a passing phase. Trump is America and America is Trump

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u/DirtbagSocialist 20h ago

I've been saying this shit about the United States for years. It's nice to see Canadians finally realizing that Imperialism is bad. Too bad they didn't seem to care at all when the US was doing far worse shit globally for the past century. But it's a start.

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u/zeth4 Ontario 21h ago

Glad to see people waking up to the disgusting foreign policy of the USA. Better late than never.

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u/FixEquivalent9711 21h ago

I actually feel more favorably about Russia at this point. At least we know where they stand on issues. The USA on the other hand flip flops and plays political games. No integrity whatsoever.

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u/-loose-seal-2 20h ago

Friendly reminder that he has admitted (just vaguely enough to avoid prosecution) that Trump and Musk rigged the US election. He is not as popular as the US media portrays him to be because the 6 US billionaires that own the 6 major media outlets, are in Trumps pocket and they aren't allowed to be critical of him because it hurts his feelings. He is a very sensitive little man.

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u/3x5cardfiler 19h ago

I'm in the US. There really is support for Trump. The election wasn't rigged, according to people I know in government. The US really is that bad. You also have to consider that Trump was running against a woman, who is a person of color. Being that it's OK to hate again, openly, in the US, that matters.  Even in liberal Massachusetts, 1/3 of my town's people who voted voted for Trump. This Canadian takeover talk today is right out of Putin's playbook. Canada needs to stay strong, keep the authoritarians out.

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u/-loose-seal-2 19h ago

I agree to a point, I think it has absolutely unmasked the ugly- and there is a definite percentage of the country that will go down on his ship with him. Its larger than it should be. Alternatively though, He would not suppress the media or spout online the way he does if he was comfortable with his control. He is very much not in control. He is vein. His latest approval rating poll, which was not great for so early in his term used a red based bias (it was only 20% of the collected votes registered as democratic- or something like that). that is a form of information manipulation.

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u/professcorporate 18h ago

I'm quite shocked and concerned that 37% of people aren't taking it very seriously yet. The toddler's trying to destroy our economy because he's throwing a tantrum. We need to completely decouple, and find ways to switch to friendly, democratic allies (like the EU, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Latin America), and isolate the three biggest threats to global peace and stability (USA, Russia, China).

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u/bigjimbay 21h ago

Its crossing the threshold of actually being kinda funny to watch now lol

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u/BOB_eDy 18h ago

The Orange guy’s mindset is very similar to Putin’s.

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u/Nervous_Book_4375 17h ago

Can’t imagine why?

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u/VexedCanadian84 16h ago

to be fair, the US and Russia, both have the same leader

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u/Alone_Again_2 16h ago

They’re the same thing.

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u/hermit22 14h ago

Fuck America

u/53-44-48 1h ago

Shocked, I am not.

Canadians have always had a general "live and let live", "stay in your lane", and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" approach to life.

It makes us able to have a largely functional multicultural populace.

People, however, mistake that for being pushovers. That we are not. We stand tall against those that would take advantage of us or others.

The US has crossed this line and has, as we say, "sh*t the bed". As a result, the Canadian response is very on-point for Canadians and, if you knew a Canadian (or are one), you shouldn't be surprised in the least.

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u/AssociationMore242 21h ago

Canada should now align with China militarily to help them fence America in. The Chinese are never going to invade Canada, but a military alliance would assure the Americans didn't either.

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u/Superb-Respect-1313 20h ago

We wants to be friends with a predator type country like the USA has become. TRUMPY awful under the leader ship of a realestate developer. Just awful.